So if Catholics and Orthodox aren't true Christians, what's the One True Church? Lutheran? Methodist? Baptist...

Gee this will totally not turn into another Catholic vs Protestant shitposting thread like literally every other thread on this board where Christianity gets mentioned.

"& Humanities" was a mistake.

I think it's ironic that the religion that is supposed to be the universally "true" faith is practically defined by how many different schisms and reinterpretations it created.

>Implying Catholics are Christians
>Implying Catholics aren't mystery Babylon

Just follow Jesus Christ you degenerate faggots. Stop making things so difficult.

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Apparently that's impossible because all we have attributed to him was fabricated by the Early Church.
So we have no real clue what if anything Jesus preached, all we have are carefully edited ideologies from others.
Catholics seem to fucking LOVE this but even the protestants don't realize they are being hoodwinked.

Ultimately it's been lost to history so why bother taking any of this crap seriously in the first place.

antiochian.org/icons-eastern-orthodoxy
>A legend passed down for nearly 2000 years describes the first icon. At the time when Christ was traveling to Jerusalem where He would experience the trial and crucifixion, King Abgar of Edessa sent for Jesus. Christ could not go to the King, so instead He sent a linen cloth on which He had dried His face. The story continues that the cloth carried to the King had an impression of Christ’s face on it. The King’s illness was healed when the cloth was taken to him. This first icon, “not made by human hands”, began a tradition of portraying Christ and the saints in pictorial fashion. (Benz, 1963). The entire town of Edessa treasured this first icon, that is the linen cloth with Christ’s face imprinted on it. It was widely acknowledged throughout out the East and still written about in the eighth century (Ouspensky, 1978).

Orthodox Christians do not worship icons, nor Mary, nor saints.

No apparently they cherish rank superstition instead, what a huge step up.

>Christ could not go to the King, so instead He sent a linen cloth on which He had dried His face
Yeah, no.

His Holy Face can only be seen on the Holy Shroud of Turin. I bet you also believe in the """""""miracle""""""" of the """""""holy""""""" fire.

Jesus was just another prophet and he was coming specifically to talk about the coming destruction of Jerusalem it was only later that all these other attributes (Messiah, Son of God/God etc) were applied

Orthodox don't use statues, you autist.

>Then Moses said to God, “If I come to the people of Israel and say to them, ‘The God of your fathers has sent me to you,’ and they ask me, ‘What is His name?’ what shall I say to them?” God said to Moses, “I AM WHO I AM.” And He said, “Say this to the people of Israel, ‘I AM has sent me to you.’” God also said to Moses, “Say this to the people of Israel, ‘The Lord, the God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has sent me to you.’ This is my name forever, and thus I am to be remembered throughout all generations.

Exodus 3:13-15

>The Jews said to Him, “Now we know that you have a demon! Abraham died, as did the prophets, yet you say, ‘If anyone keeps my word, he will never taste death.’ Are you greater than our father Abraham, who died? And the prophets died! Who do you make yourself out to be?”

>Jesus answered, “If I glorify myself, my glory is nothing. It is my Father who glorifies me, of whom you say, ‘He is our God.’ But you have not known Him. I know Him. If I were to say that I do not know Him, I would be a liar like you, but I do know Him and I keep His word. Your father Abraham rejoiced that he would see my day. He saw it and was glad.”

>So the Jews said to Him, “You are not yet fifty years old, and have you seen Abraham?” Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.” So they picked up stones to throw at Him, but Jesus hid Himself and went out of the temple.

John 8:52-59

John was written in the 120s

nice meme

if anything saying it was written by the apostle himself is what would be the meme

>religion

keep memeing son

>somewhere in some Christian's brain he thinks any of this somehow addressed the point of the otherguy

Intriguing.

t. muslim

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>I can't read

I'm glad you're at least enjoying your religious roleplay

>if you're not a spiritually dead edgy atheist like me, y-you must be roleplaying!!!1 r-right guys? a-atheism is the future, r-right?

euphoric

Not that guy, but according to wikipedia, the typical date is 90-110 AD. Do you have a credible academic source that says otherwise?

Also acknowledging that the bible is a product of history doesn't make him an atheist. He may be a faithful of a different religion, or just a non-literalist.

I don't know where you got the idea I'm an atheist from, I'm merely denying Jesus was the messiah/God.

By religious role play I mean you are not seriously religious. For many on this board it just seems like a way for you to call others heretics and etc

Also I'm not a Jew

Muslim?

Muslims don't deny that Jesus was a Messiah

>I'm merely denying Jesus was the messiah/God
Because you are denying Scripture. But keep telling yourself that I'm merely roleplaying by presenting the Truth to you, if it makes you feel better.

What are you? JW?

Mohammedans deny His teachings, His crucifixion and His resurrection while venerating their false-prophet who was a psychopathic child molesting warlord.

I thought they just acknowledge him as a prophet but deny him as god or messiah?

>Because you are denying Scripture.

That still doesn't make him an atheist, you fucking cunt. He could be a hindu or a buddhist or a taoist for all you know. Fucking arrogant motherfuckers, I swear.

I replied to his statement about Jesus Christ not being the Christ, not atheism.

You have to be 18+ to browse this website by the way.

>Jesus was crucified
lolnope

youtube.com/watch?v=ZlD4wY_yhck

>Barabbas's name appears as bar-Abbas in the Greek texts of the gospels. It is derived ultimately from the Aramaic בר-אבא, Bar-abbâ, "son of the father". Some ancient manuscripts of Matthew 27:16–17 have the full name of Barabbas as "Jesus Barabbas" and this was probably the name as originally written in the text.[12] Early church father Origen was troubled by the fact that his copies of the gospels gave Barabbas' name as "Jesus Barabbas" and declared that since it was impossible he could have had such a holy name, "Jesus" must have been added to Barabbas' name by a heretic.[13] It is possible that later scribes, copying the passage, removed the name "Jesus" from "Jesus Barabbas" to avoid dishonour to the name of Jesus the Messiah.[14]

Where the gospel is preached, where Christ is believed in, there is the Church.

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weak bait fampai

>answer 2 seconds after i posted
means you didn't read the article nor watched the video, yet you classified as bait because it disagrees with you

just get the fuck out

yeah sorry I was wrong. I think Muslims argue that the Actual Messiah is alive and he's hiding.

mashallah bro

>because it disagrees with you
He called your shitpost bait because it's a stale meme which no one take seriously anymore.

takes*

thanks habib

>i called your argument a stale meme even though i didn't look at the video and i didn't provide evidence against it
frig off

inshallah we will crush all those christian infidels one day bro, allahumma salli ala Muhammad

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alaihi assalatu w assalam

i like where this satire is going

you crusader LARPers are more insufferable and cringy than furries

>he thinks he's the first atheist nu-male to vomit that stale meme

youtube.com/watch?v=fahXMxCPPlA

>>he thinks he's the first atheist nu-male to vomit that stale meme
>i provided no counter argument but i still call stale meme
Just prove my argument wrong.

subhanallah bro

BONE WORSHIP

WORD WORSHIP

EARLY CHRISTIAN PAGAN

Funny how plenty of protestants become Catholic after studying Church history.

History is the killing field of Catholicism
It simply can't survive historical examination
For example
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saeculum_obscurum

It's not worship. Besides, there is proof of miraculous relics in the Old Testament.

And yet they recovered.

The Gates of Hell can attack, but never prevail against the Church.

>Saeculum obscurum (Latin: the Dark Age) is a name given to a period in the history of the Papacy during the first half of the 10th century, beginning with the installation of Pope Sergius III in 904 and lasting for sixty years until the death of Pope John XII in 964.
>lasting for sixty years
>sixty years
>sixty

>It would be misleading to portray all, or even most, of the popes of the era as worldly and corrupt. Surviving documents (and there are obvious lacunae) make it clear that many were competent administrators, and skilful diplomats in difficult and dangerous times. Some were even reformers, keen to root out discreditable practices such as simony. Others ordered the rebuilding and restoration of Rome's churches and palaces... Rather, it is the manner of the election of many of them and their symbiotic relationship with the Roman aristocracy that has earned their regime the designation pornocracy."
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saeculum_obscurum

Nice try.

westboro baptist church

This.

>"This Church is holy, the one Church, the true Church, the Catholic Church, fighting as she does against all heresies. She can fight, but she cannot be beaten. All heresies are expelled from her, like the useless loppings pruned from a vine. She remains fixed in her root, in her vine, in her love. The gates of hell shall not conquer her."
St. Augustine, Sermon to Catechumens, on the Creed, 6,14, 395 A.D.

It's just one example of history complicating things for papists
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papal_Schism

I highly doubt Rome will survive the reign of Pope Poz I

Also, Augustine was the most Protestant of the church fathers

>it doesn't fit my narrative
>IT MUST BE CONSPIRACY AND DEY IZ ALL LIARS WHO COVERD UP DA TWOOTH!!!

>The Western Schism or Papal Schism was a split within the Roman Catholic Church which lasted from 1378 to 1417
>from 1378 to 1417
>1378 to 1417

So if it got sorted out and recovered from, why does it matter?

Except when he isn't