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Ethan Myers
blizzard should have waited until the last week for the kabal cards and started off with the lotus cards
Jacob Watson
So they nerfed blade flurry because it limited design space on Rogue weapons
And then they don't make a new Rogue weapon
absolute madmen
Luis Sullivan
So what are some mechanics you could add to rogue to help their survivability while also keeping their class identity - ie no healing, taunts or armor?
Henry Powell
Let's play the guessing game, /hsg/. What's going to be the percentage of Shamans in ladder post expansion? 60%? 70%? 80%?
Jaxon Reed
5 mana, 2 card, destroy your weapon hellfire was too op. it punished playing minions !
Charles Garcia
canabilism
Jace Smith
Stealth that affects face?
Colton Collins
20% first week 70% second week feeding on reno shitters
Alexander Allen
Getting rid of Dean fucking Ayala.
Isaac Gutierrez
>Opponent drops Golden Monkey >Next turn he drops Sir Finley, Millhouse, Lorewalker Cho, and King Mukla before conceding I legitimately felt bad for him.
Chase Gonzalez
i wonder who exactly keeps fucking up at Team 5?
I mean they do a great job most of the time with theme.
Its just they fall short at the game mechanics stage.
There must be at least one person not doing their job and explaining their shitty decisions away.
Other than Ben Brode.
Jackson Carter
stun/actual sap that sleeps a card for a turn, its flavour to separate itself from freeze can be that it stops whatever ability the opponents card has for that turn(like rag not hitting for 8)
Aaron Price
That's reddit tier man
Bentley Foster
stealthing their hero or having them take no damage when attacking with the hero power
Charles Howard
Steal 1 mana crystal from your opponent
Aiden Thomas
brodes just the mouth piece
it's mostly donais(lol nothing is wrong with portal being common) and dean ayala
Luke Garcia
>sleeps a card for a turn It's called freeze
John Clark
A Monkey like that would have actually broken me. I already get pissed off if I get a single deadweight legendary, a full hand of them would probably cause me to dust Elise out of rage.
Leo Mitchell
Say something NICE to our dear friend, before he leaves us.
Parker Martinez
Aya blackpaw is the true waifu
Henry Davis
I would love to see an "everything is fine" crossover with FTL
Jordan Martinez
"I'll put the 400 to good use."
Isaac Murphy
Why does she talk like a nickelodeon character though
Jayden Perry
He's leaving us already. As soon as Kazakus drops.
Brandon Cook
Have you read cards flavor texts?
This game demographics is literally children
Ian Moore
>wake up >the new weapon was actually for shaman >rogue got this >"blade flurry limited design space"
Henry Campbell
It's actually dr who millenials which is miles, miles worse than children. I'm so fucking sick of seeing the word awesome
Andrew Allen
There's still two more cards, i think you'll be pleasantly surprised ;)
The last one better be a battlecry summon jade so that I can bounce that shit a million times in 1 turn
Brody Fisher
I think they simply don't communicate enough. As someanon pointed out, the recent sets, especially MSG, look like made by separate people who don't know what the others are doing.
Either that, or all the next sets were planned way in advance, even before the rotation and nerfs were introduced and they're just reluctant or too lazy to change anything. That would explain why paladin keeps getting shit cards and no early game, priest had to wait a year for a board clear and support for his dragon deck arrvies a few months before most of the deck rotates out, or why rogue still didn't get a weapon or much anything relevant.
The most likely explanation is they are borderline incompetent when it comes to designing cards.
Kayden Young
For many years now, there was an OC that was identical to this. It was a dragon, some sort of bronze drake, with the exact same effect and stats. Does anyone have it? I don't think I ever saved it because I thought it sucked.
Jaxon Garcia
Rogue already got two smaller jade cards. The next one, if the other reveals are an indication, im guessing will be the mid one for like 4 mana or so. They actually probably expect you to play the deck with these as the early game cards.
Dominic Morgan
Too complicated?
Julian Jenkins
No, but too good.
Christopher Garcia
Anything that is "fair" is unplayable though
Asher Sanchez
>Not running two of these two bump your rogue up a tier
Michael Reyes
See, this is a bad card that I can get behind, because it's not that bad and it is actually interesting to explore a card that punishes opponent draws.
I understand that not all cards can be good, meta cards, but they should be more like this and less like Worgen Greaser or Gadgetzan Ferryman.
Michael Walker
I can always run the 2 mana jade minion and huckster for possible raptor value I guess. Maybe I can survive until turn 10 to play nzoth and close the game.
Austin Rogers
The thing is as it stands, there's really no reason whatsoever to play a jade deck unless Aya Blackpaw is getting significant vlaue. She's literally more stats than vek'lor if you've summoned twice. So you'll really want to run all the early game possible to guarantee at least two jade golems summoned, or it's a little redundant to run the deck. So you're probably forced to run the spell too.
Jaxon Morgan
The mage 6/3 version of this was almost never played. With 1 less attack it won't see any play at all.
Colton Clark
That one was way better because it discovered mage spells exclusively too. Not to mention it's directly competing with drake, who is now even better than before because it skirts dragonfire potion.
Carter Collins
It saw a ton of play in control mage. But then belcher and healbot left and mage was forced to be aggro shitter or full freeze
Jaxon Fisher
it looks like they cut out the elfs head from other art piece then pasted it into that
Hudson Cruz
I legit hope they improved on flavour texts in the last two years doge was a dead meme way before they even used it it would be like making a harambe meme for knuckles
Dominic Morgan
You know it's coming
Jeremiah Sullivan
If that is revealed to be true next week i will blame myself for the rest of mylife
Kevin Foster
they both look like smug cunts
Brode at least seems like a guy you could go get a beer with.
Nolan Howard
i think this card is good. it makes shaku a 4/5 that you played on turn 3. its like a 6/6 for 4 mana if you get the buff. conceal is already a good card in rogue decks.
its like that paladin +2/+2 and summon a 2-drop, but that 2-drop is always a 4/4
Robert James
>fedora >top
Sebastian Thompson
That's fucking it, this is the last straw, i'm quitting this shitty game. It has been fun (like two years ago) folks. See you in Gwent or whatever.
William Lopez
play Shadowverse
Ryan Jones
Does it come with the girl on the right?
Nathan Torres
>its like that paladin +2/+2 and summon a 2-drop, but that 2-drop is always a 4/4 You are terribly wrong
Sebastian Cruz
I predict a large influx of players in Wild once League of Explorers rotates out, followed by a large hemorrhage after a week when these players remember the format entrance fee is 1600 dust + tax.
Asher Baker
Why would they have an entrance fee if they already have the cards?
Also I can see a huge influx of players playing Reno decks with highlanders cards from MSG, but also the actuall reno.
Julian Walker
soon
Michael Gonzalez
The entrance fee is the 1600 dust needed to craft Dr. Boom plus anything else you may need to revise your deck.
Matthew Gonzalez
Yay or nay
Adrian Nguyen
It's literally a bad Bash.
Isaac Watson
>game badly needs a reprint of healbot >reprint healbot >give it 3 more stats and 1 less mana to make it a good curve play make it a shaman class card
Julian Wright
Decisively "okay"
Ryan Long
Did they even bother with pretending it's balanced by Overload, or were they actually smart enough to not print a Tunnel Trogg buff onto it?
Noah Thompson
shit taste desu
Owen Garcia
Fuck, forgot about bash. Blizzard why would you do this to me you fucks.
So, this would be pretty strong on 3 mana, right?
i just want painlock to work
Ian Lewis
no u
Thomas Martin
>tfw you just realized if you nerfed all of Shaman's cards to have Overload 10 he would still be in the meta because of Tunnel Trogg
Matthew Barnes
Same as this Their extra effects are just too costly for today's value
Jose Parker
>canabilism >Cannabilism >4 mana 2 atk 0 hp Battlecry: Blaze it faggot!
Logan Smith
rogue still has another common and epic to reveal?
Jack Brown
I don't know if it snowballs the board hard enough to see play, but overloading for turn 5 is only really problematic when you want to use drake as a spirit claws activator ie. to kill a 3/3, which the 3/6 body handles fine most of the time so I guess it should work. It can also do retarded shit like heal up totem golem or thing from below, or thunderbluff, and adding +12 heal to a shaman deck at the "cost" of playing 2x water elemental - reminder that the other turn 4 3/6 minions in mage and priest and dragon decks both see plenty of play - seems pretty absurd to help their only tricky matchups in freeze mage (or maly druid and tempo mage who can close it with a few turns of burn) and face decks who managed to steal the early game
AND it buffs tunnel trogg
Landon Lewis
>tfw you beat cancer midrange shaman with your shitter almost all basic card deck
The opponent was a complete retard but jesus christ them spirit claws and 0 mana 5/5 taunt is so oppressive.
Cooper Moore
>implying I dusted my non-golden GvG and Naxx cards I still click on my Wild collection from time to time to remind myself that paladin used to have early game once.
Jace Green
Because it is their "class identity" to have every mechanic on overpowered cards. Duh
Joseph Stewart
>makes shaku a 4/5
>makes patient assassin usable
>buffs any concealed minion
That. thats actually not bad. If it makes PA usuable then im pretty happy.
Robert Fisher
Finally, somebody who understands the idea of design space and class identity.
It was hard seeing our design decisions go misunderstood and unappreciated.
PAs problem has always been it dies to random shit, if it kills a 2 or higher drop minion its served its intention. It was slow but cheap removal, but its problem was that its too suceptible to pings and aoe. Buffing it to 3/3 status might be enough for it to live and thus see play.
Brayden Reyes
>people who don't pick warrior and hunter in arena
Anthony Jackson
dies to maelstrom portal the second he comes out
Colton Cox
How much gold do I need saved up for a decent card output for the next expansion?
Jace Ramirez
>PAs problem has always been it dies to random shit I thought the problem was that miracle has to run a very restrictive minion list and it wasn't good enough to make the cut, it's still a very good card though
Colton Gray
Depnds alot on luck. I got 7k gold and 10k dust, should be enough.
Levi Fisher
Thats why you dont play him immdiately but combo him into this was what I was implying.
Dominic Kelly
somewhere between 3500 to 4500 should be alright
Lucas Nguyen
still dies to maelstrom portal 4Head
Eli Barnes
Reminder that Mysterious Challenger was one of the last cards revealed in the final Facebook card dump for TGT.
There's always a chance another Challenger could appear for MSG.
Jack Williams
>needing gold for the grand dusting of gagdetzan
Nolan Gomez
how long did it take you to get 7k gold?
i only got 400 ;_;
Easton Butler
6 mana 6/6 put all combo cards from your deck into play
Grayson Russell
depends on how good you are in the arena, how much dust you got and how desperately you want to have every new legendary/epic?!
I got 4k on 3 different accounts.
James Bell
If you have that little, use whatever you end up with for Arena. Don't buy packs.