Any philosophy or ideology that is materialistic in nature is automatically going to fail because it discounts:
1) Importance and respect of natural material (Capitalism does this)
or
2) Human need for spirituality and naturally developed culture (Communism does this)
Brayden Lopez
Environmentalism can only be a material philosophy. Spiritually caring for nature doesn't do jack if you make no effort to understand how it works.
Jace Gonzalez
>Capitalism >ideology
Samuel Edwards
But would you dare mess that much with nature if it was sacred?
William Hall
what would you call it?
Charles Scott
What would you call it?
Jose Johnson
It's an economic system. Communism is an ideology and an economic/political system.
Noah Cooper
Okay fine, "liberalism" then. Happy?
Juan Nguyen
That's from Persepolis, right?
Cameron Thomas
Liberalism isn't materialistic though. It only concerns the treatment of human subjects.
Luis Martin
This my thought exactly. It's irrelevant how much you know about nature, all you have to do is hold it has sacred and leave it the fuck alone. Take what you need and not too much in excess. (Obviously a little bit in excess because people will be people)
Jackson Sullivan
Yes it is.
Jose James
Okay "classical liberalism". Done playing semantics?
Dominic Wood
>Descartes didn't believe in the material world
Parker Hernandez
Descartes was a dualist, he did believe in the material world.
Brayden Moore
Still not materialistic.
Angel Bennett
Yes it is, it emphasizes freedom through a free trade system which is inherently materialistic. You would only guarntee that right if you were materialistic.
Josiah Evans
neoliberalism then, happy?
Logan Anderson
Why do I have to be materialistic to support that? Can I not support it simply because it creates good outcomes?
Robert Butler
Yes? People who believed in forest spirits and river gods deforested Europe and many other parts of the world.
Xavier Diaz
No, many Germanic pagans believed trees to be sacred. It was Romanfags and Christfags who destroyed Europe's nature.
Isaac Foster
Europe was already greatly deforested by roman times.