Spanish Civil war

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Did the bad guys win?

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Yes.

t. José Antonio Primo de Rivera y Sáenz de Heredia, 1st Duke of Primo de Rivera, 3rd Marquis of Estella

>Did the bad guys win?

The bad guys almost always win.

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Usurpador.

Why did Franco bring the moors?

I heard they raped a lot

the good guys became the bad guys then lost

¡No pasaran!

This. Fucking stalin ruining everything.

Because Franco was a reactionary cunt that didn't care about the well being of the Nation.

And also
>Franco
>fascist

The CNT-FAI had some pretty gud songs 10/10
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The colonial troops were those most loyal to him I believe.

I'm not even sure what the fuck is that poster trying to convey. Is the arab guy supposed to be the invader being taken down or sacrificing himself to protect the women?

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nope.
Franco is friend of Hitler. Spanish republicans fight against fascism. USA, URSS and UK are waifus to us. Then we beat Hitler. Franco is suddenly friend of USA because both hate Stalin.
Republican Spanish are betrayed by both USA and France. We lost the war.
Good job, world.

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Franco used moors against republican spanish. The poster reads: join in the catalonian militia of madrid to defend civilization against the fascism.
And the image shows two militiamen defending the women

That's a big knife

Actually, the good guys became the bad guys then won.

I honestly have a hard time deciding who the good guys were.

Were they the radical leftists who went around burning down buildings, executing prisoners, and shooting nuns before becoming puppets of Soviet Russia?

Or the reactionaries that rebelled against a democratically elected government, ruthlessly suppressed local cultures and identity, blatantly ignored human rights and filled countless mass graves?

The whole war depresses me.

>this thread again and again
NO
The real spaniards won the war, the others were frenchified hipsters tied to a russian leash

War is hell man.

I love how some traditional anarchists are acting like Republican Spain wasn't a tumblr tier hipster containment zone pretty much like the modern SJW groups. Orwell in his "Homage to Catalonia" literally has a passage about how recruits started arguing with a drill instructor about whether your military superior should be called an officer or a comrade, instead of actually training.

>controlling language is silly
Why are liberals so fucking delusional?

no

the reds were bastards who murdered nuns

And the nationalists had teenage girls raped by Regulares and then laughed about it.

What's your point?

Who are you calling liberal here?

>teenage girls

You mean combatants like in OP's pic. No regrets.

>it was ok because they were enemy fighters!

That's exactly what I said, yes.

And the Catholic Church strongly supported the nationalists.

So I say shooting Nuns was okay.

that's right, Jordi Perroflauta

>anarchist teenagers = combatants
>nuns = non-combatants

The distinction is pretty clear if you're not autistic.

Do you think all of the women raped by Nationalist moors were fighters?

A lot of them just had Republican sympathies or were married to republicans.

>abortion is forbidden therefore it didn't happen
Spanish gynaecologists must have been gigantic Franco supporters, just think about all that black market "premium" prices

How come leftards understand how market works only when a right winger bans it? See also: war on drugs.

I'm no leftard tho. I'm alt-left.

She a cute.

She's ugly as fuck.

This

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Both sides were objectively shit.

if she was born today she'd be the pink haired feminist accusing people of fart rape

She's ugly and if she was born today she'd be the ugly pink haired feminist accusing people of fart rape

>abortions are left
kys, my man

>that poster
why are non anglo nations so shit at propaganda

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>Illegal immigration: inexistent
Topkek. I wonder why people didn't want to secretly migrate to a totalitarian police state

>muh poor, innocent priests and nuns

The church openly supported the fascists, they deserved getting shot and thrown into mass graves. That's war, son.

And the fascists killed plenty of priests as well, as well as way more people in general, but rightists always leave that detail out.

Today, a country like that would be flooded by Veeky Forumstorians!

>le only right wingers understand economics

Most stale (and factually inaccurate) meme ever

Regarding the callous attitude of the Vatican, Manuel Montero, lecturer of the University of the Basque Country commented on 6 May 2007:[139]

>The Church, which upheld the idea of a 'National Crusade' in order to legitimize the military rebellion, was a belligerent part during the Civil War, even at the cost of alienating part of its members. It continues in a belligerent role in its unusual answer to the Historical Memory Law by recurring to the beatification of 498 “martyrs” of the Civil War. The priests executed by Franco's Army are not counted among them. It continues to be a Church that is incapable of transcending its one-sided behaviour of 70 years ago and amenable to the fact that this past should always haunt us. In this political use of granting religious recognition one can perceive its indignation regarding the compensations to the victims of Francoism. Its selective criteria regarding the religious persons that were part of its ranks are difficult to fathom. The priests who were victims of the republicans are “martyrs who died forgiving”, but those priests who were executed by the Francoists are forgotten.

that´s the thing of wars.
But you can sum up thing pretty well, at the end of the day one group was fighting for the progress and the other was trying to mantein the privileges of the dominant class.
Also, not all the beligerants of the Republican army were leftist people. people went from communists, anarchists, socialists, to center-right, monarchist and non-falangist right.

wow men. Is amazing watching people. support violations because teh rulz of war.
at least the nun-killer user seems adult enought to know the act of killing itself were shit

Gay

Virgin

Primo de rivera would have hated what franco did, he sold it's country to the US and failed to improve it's economy

.>Fucking stalin ruining everything

Explain.

yes

but they wouldn't have done it without the valuable help of the "communist" party. Stalin had to prove he wanted no trouble.

This type of thread again?

>being so triggered you don't get the point

>all these people ITT calling Franco a fascist
the Left, everyone

Sorry you thought your dumb comment was clever

>She

Are you talking about US?

>tfw no Anarcho-syndicalist gf

This

No. I'll admit despite the anarchists had some righteous causes among them, despite their atrocities, but if Franco lost, Stalin would have ended up controlling Spain.

Does this ever not happen?

>all these sluts were raped and killed by Moors
>70years later the same type of women are being raped and killed by Moors
God I love history

>Another major target of the Terror were women, with the overall goal of keeping them in their traditional place in Spanish society. To this end the Nationalist army promoted a campaign of targeted rape. General Gonzalo Quiepo de Llano spoke multiple times over the radio warning that "immodest" women with Republican sympathies would be raped by his Moorish troops. Near Seville, Nationalist soldiers raped a truckload of female prisoners, threw their bodies down a well, and paraded around town with their rifles draped with their victim's underwear. These rapes were not the result of soldiers disobeying orders, but official Nationalist policies, with officers specifically choosing Moors to be the primary perpetrators. Advancing nationalist troops scrawled "Your children will give birth to fascists" on the walls of captured buildings, and many women taken prisoner were force fed castor oil, then paraded in public naked, while the powerful laxative did its' work.

>nationalists
>specifically choose moors to rape Spanish women

I've always been curious. What if the Republic been more centrist/Right wing?
Lets say the leftists calmed down and centered a bit more. Let's say Stalin never had any influence. Lets say the Anarchists/Socialists never got as influential.

Could a center right Secular Spanish republic have survived?

When it comes to liberals(as in classical liberals, not American liberals) - they kinda did what Socialist-Revolutionaries did during Russian Civil War - they split-up between both sides of the conflict. Other rightwingers were mostly Franco's supporters with very few exceptions.

With liberals the problem lied that at one side - they've realised that Franco will kill Spanish democracy while Republican side won't really let them do their free market stuff.

Who would republicans get support from then, because without help of Soviets republicans would fall even faster. Republicans were from day one fighting a losing fight.

Also as Orwell will tell you in his homage to Catalonia he wished he fought for the Anarchists. The best thing to happen in that civil war was the anarchists, they dared to defy everyone at the time and they lost yet for a short time they managed to exists by themselves and see how romanticised it is.

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I'm sure those poor moors were exclusively acting on whiteys behalf

They wouldn't be there if not for the nationalists.

If you mean the Faggot anarchist communist who killed and burnt religious figures and killed innocent land owners then no

Allies were good guys

The axis were bad

Any far left/ far right winger is.

They aren't """liberals"""

>right wing has no flaws

Fuck off cunt

What point?

That you're a faggot?

Republic was entirely reliant on Stalin and the USSR because France and Britain were pussy shits, then Stalin started killing off every single moderate, independent militia that wasn't sucking his dick at a time when the new army was still in training. Brilliant strategies from all parties involved

>mfw some plucky tomboy photographer triggers alt-rightards this much