Why are leftist warcrimes frequently glossed over?
My main interest is the SCW and most authors, especially Spanish ones completely ignore Republican war crimes while they detail every single Nationalist crime they can think of. The only author who really addresses Republican warcrimes is an Anglo, Stanley Payne
>Why are leftist warcrimes frequently glossed over? I wouldn't conflate the historiography of the SCW with a more general trend.
Nolan Parker
>leftist war crimes
>glossed over
>being this delusional
Yes, because history books and lessons aren't taught about the failure of communism now aren't they?
Far left and far right commit horrible crimes, and anyone who denies this is a filthy fucking commie or a delusional brain dead stormfag
Jose Myers
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Connor Reyes
What? You can't even touch the topic of the Spanish civil war without someone screaming about republicans killing priests.
Ian Watson
This wasn't meant to be a pure SCW thread.
There's also shit like Castro's firing squads or the Red Army's retaliation in Germany that are rarely mentioned outside of the /pol/ types
Hunter Martinez
I'm mainly talking about mainstream historians or media instead of online discussions.
Spanish authors have a tendency to heavily romanticize the Republicans. I'm not the only one to believe this either. Julius Ruiz complained about this in a British paper
>glossed over Only by hardcore lefties Most of the people find crime and killing pretty unpleasant. Then again, It's your fault for hanging around hardcore lefties. It's like going to /pol/ and complain about holohoaxers
Charles Lewis
Castro love is pretty disgusting. Che love is even worse.
Ayden Powell
Meh my HS history teacher was a declared socialist and he dwelved in debth on the SCW Republican war crimes, gulags and the great leap forward.
Nicholas Ortiz
Because leftist countries are rarely defeated in wars. Not to mention WWII style defeats are rare nowadays.
Only time a leftist entity is defeated is when that entity is a rebellion. But since the usual opponent is a piece of shit republic/dictatorship itself, nobody cares about lefty rebel group war crimes.
Adrian Edwards
>Republican war crimes are glossed over wew lad If you search "Spanish Civil War atrocities" on Google, I guarantee that you'll find some intentionally gruesome images from the Red Terror.
Tyler Cooper
Castro/Che apologists aren't really different from Pinochet apologists.
Carter Mitchell
>Because leftist countries are rarely defeated in wars They don't need that, they don't last very long
Brandon Rivera
>advocate racemixing >"I am christcuck therefore right wing" >t. franco
Justin Ortiz
Did you even read the second sentence of the OP?
Bentley Moore
Leftists are the ones with the most power at the moment so they control the perception.
Alexander Brown
Still not seeing a generalized trend. Because then on the other side, you have things like the Korean War, where only Bruce Cummings really talks about shit the RoK did.
Robert Moore
If I only had my high school education to work with I never would have heard of the Holodomor. I had no idea Mao killed a bunch of people until I looked it up myself either.
Bentley Gonzalez
Yeah, Pierre Trudeau, what a cool guy! Changed our original flag, let in way too many immigrants and thus fucked up the housing market, job availability, cultural identification, and the population density of Southern Ontario (where an estimated 40% of Canadians live!) Woo! What a guy!
Joseph Martin
>implying Stalin isn't considered a massive enemy of common contemporary morality >implying praising Stalin isn't a bigger taboo than praising any other nazi other than Hitler >implying death numbers in the USSR aren't massively inflated by most people and attributed personally and solely to Stalin >implying today's cultural capitalism/"capitalism with a human face" has anything to do with leftism and isn't just a facade to hide it's true subversive nature Are today's right wingers actually this delusional? t. not even left wing you mong
Ayden Mitchell
The Falangists won the Spanish Civil War. They continued to murder their political opponents for decades after the war. Their prisons were filled with political prisoners and dissidents.
Secret police, torture , informants.
Isn't it easy to notice that authoritarian governments use the same tools whether rightist or leftist??
Jackson James
They're not. They are overshadowed by the fact that there was a fascist-reactionary-oligarchic coup against the Republic to restore the oppresive status-quo.
The war crimes of the republicans are those of a people fighting for liberty and social justice, the ones of the fascists/oligarchs are those of oppressors and despots.
Jack Reed
>Being this delusional >Implying stalinists and anarchist gangs fought for liberty >Implying that commuism is not only less oppressive than fascism but also embodying freedom You are incredibly brainwashed.
Ayden Nelson
To be fair, being chummy with Castro was really just a way for Canada to say "Nya nya, we don't have to listen you USA".
This might blow your mind a little, but Castro was also not a communist until months AFTER they had conquered Cuba. He had socialist leanings, as most post-colonial liberation ideologies did, but largely it was because the US shunned him first, which naturally made the USSR try to woo him, by which point it wasn't hard.
Nicholas Green
I learned about the horrors of communism and fascism in my high school too.
Australia is based in that regard.
Gabriel Thomas
Where do the emu wars fall in?
Liam Sanchez
Come in year 8, m8.
Truly a dark moment in history.
Alexander Sanchez
Stalin, Mao, Castro, and Pol Pot are literally four of the most demonized people in history.
Ryder Gutierrez
>one of the sides wins and has free hand to demonize the other for two decades and a half >historians put emphasis on the bad things of the winner and the good things of the demonized one
I wonder why?
Hudson Moore
Pic related: the definitive writing on the Spanish Civil War
She shows her age today, but she's still the best out there, if anything it overemphasises the red terror, not out of Thomas' bias, but due to the strict censorship relating to Nationalist crimes during the war enforced by Franco's govement
Caleb Edwards
>The Falangists won the Spanish Civil War. Nice one.
Juan Allen
Nobody win the Civil War, except one smug opportunistic little runt. Carlists lost, Falangists lost, Catholics lost, Republicans lost, Socialists lost, Communists lost, Anarcho-Syndicalists lost.
He only won through sheer luck, Sanjurjo was too fat for his plane and ended up crashing and dying, Goded was stuck in Barcelona, Rivera was stuck in Madrid, Mola also enjoyed a plane crash, Gil-Robles was busy crying, and Sotelo didn't even make it to the Civil War
Camden Murphy
Because leftists have won in the majority of cases or perhaps have lost during one point in history but had a resurgence later on
If the Germans had won WWII, you can bet your ass Churchill and Stalin and so on would've been executed for war crimes as was done to the Germans
Lincoln Morgan
>implying praising Stalin isn't a bigger taboo than praising any other nazi other than Hitler It really isn't.
Same. Year 11 modern history, was USA 1918-1939 & Hitler's Germany. Year 12 was 20th century Australia & Red China.
Nolan Barnes
Because useless leftists become lying historians.
Hudson Anderson
>a way for Canada to say "Nya nya, we don't have to listen you USA"
why has Canada always been such an obnoxious faggoty nation to the US throughout history? was it genuinely a feeling of inferiority to their southern neighbor?
William Ward
Nobody teaches the Holodromor
Robert Brooks
Which was real, unlike you know what.
Justin Turner
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Jose Price
What? Canada is the US' most closely-aligned country in the world. Trudeau (PE not J) tried (and arguably succeeded) in strengthening Canadian national identity by stressing it as something unique from both the British and the Americans. If that necessitates some minor foreign policy differences, so be it.
Ayden Cooper
>race mixing >implying race is real >implying it's not the duty of every Gallego to plow black qts
Eli Gonzalez
Because most modern "leftists" are anarchist cucks whereas people like Stalin and Mao were complete authoritarians. Meanwhile most right wingers of today are still authoritarian to some degree so it's easier to compare them to people like Hitler.
No one cares because authoritarian left wing politics is dead and buried.
Joseph Jones
pic very much related
Eli Wilson
Because history is written by the victors
Connor Flores
>Why are leftist warcrimes frequently glossed over?
The fact that red terror couldn't hold a candle next to white terror in the civil war doesn't mean it has been glossed over.