Dominions is a fantasy turn-based war game created by two dudes. One of them is a teacher.
The game combines a simple presentation with an extremely wide array of strategic options, including over 2800 units, 800 spells and 300 magic items. Turns are resolved simultaneously, with players planning battles rather than directly controlling them.
It has simplistic graphics but is easily moddable and extremely deep.
Basically, it's an autist’s wet dream of a war game.
>Dom4 Inspector This is a community resource that has every unit, spell, and item in the game in an accessible database. larzm42.github.io/dom4inspector/
What's the interaction between W9 bless, the spell Quickness, and Celestial Music?
Gabriel Harris
Celestial Music is quickness (the spell). It doesn't stack because it's an identical effect. W9 bless and Quickness do not stack in terms of additional AP, with the x2 of quickness taking priority over the x1.5 of W9, but do give the full additional stats. Heroic Quickness (from the HoF ability) stacks fully with other quickness effects.
Aaron Bailey
Quickness overrides W9 quickness since it's better. (Gives +4 attack as well as two times the amount of attacks, W9 just gives 4 defense and twice the attacks every other turn). I think celestial music gives actual quickness, so it would override W9 quickness as well, but I'm not 100% sure on that. It's easy enough to test, though.
Henry Bailey
Let's say I start playing this, is there any mod that improves the battle simulador like its speed and such?
Chase Edwards
Dont think so but there are speed options in the top right.
Anthony Williams
There are shortcuts for skipping battle turns, it's something like >
Tyler Russell
That sounds decent. Can I control the frame?
Thomas James
If by frame, you mean exact time in battle, you can only go forward. Which can get a bit annoying, but you can mash N to get through battles quickly.
Asher Barnes
Thanks, you're all very helpful. I just hope the game don't die because the manual looks like a wall of text.
Zachary Wood
What are the 2nd and 3rd best vanilla nations in each era?
Levi Harris
Don't worry, everything after the first ~100 pages is just reference tables :>
Jack Richardson
Thanks!
Leo Nguyen
The game is pretty obviously geared toward the niche grognard crowd.
Xavier Powell
Right. Seriously no takers for a Caelum sub?
He really does still have a shitload of land.
Kevin Lewis
EA: Between Formoria and Lanka MA: Hard to say, there's a few nations that could be argued as being reasonably close to each other (Pangaea, Agartha, Ulm) LA: Toss up between Midgard, Ulm and Bogarus
Anthony Taylor
You value Midgard, Ulm, and Rus over xibalbats? Or do you not think Ragha's first?
Parker Ramirez
I forgot that Xibala is good again in LA, so they're probably second after Ragha
Good man. Have subbed you in. You've seven hours or so until the turn's due.
Jonathan Turner
How absolute garbage would a nations troops and commanders have to be if they were all immortal?
Cooper Ramirez
Lemuria
Christopher Lee
A dude made a mod like that except they all also had a 50% chance of reforming after death.
Charles Adams
I don't see it.
Anthony Howard
It can take five/ten for the message to go through. Have you gotten the "You are now playing Caelum" email?
Ethan Richardson
I haven't gotten anything.
Ian Mitchell
Huh. I did just copypaste the email address, so shouldn't be a typo on my end.
Gone into your spam folder for some reason, maybe?
Camden Mitchell
Just resent myself the turn file, got the message. It's the first message I got.
Hunter Mitchell
Weird. Well, hopefully you don't have any further problems.
Joseph Butler
This is actually wrong. First, quickness is 3 atk 3 def. Second, the def boost from quickness and w9 do stack, just not the action boost.
Daniel Nguyen
Sheeeiiit.
That's a cool idea, and makes them less annoying to manage. Any idea what this mod was?
Lincoln Phillips
I thought the AP boost didn't stack, but the extra attacks did? They're different effects, after all. Spell Quickness is an extra attack every turn, Bless Quickness is an extra attack every SECOND turn.
Sandeth. Partly inspired by the newer Prince of Persia games.
Liam Cox
AP boost IS what gives extra attacks per turn. Yeah, it isn't really made clear anywhere.
Zachary Thomas
If its still looking for people around 1 tomorrow Euro time I'll join.
Jack Green
Pretty sure it's a separate effect. Even 30+ AP shit only every does it's attacks once per round without Quickness.
Christopher Cook
Each unit eats all of its default AP on attack, but if AP value is increased there's a leftover for more attacks. You are like 3 years behind on mechanics, Desura had a detailed thread on this
Justin Nelson
Okay, so it's a little weird, but here's the basic gist of it - all units have a base AP, and that's the AP required to do their attack. If a unit has one or more AP, it will still do its attack. Quickness multiples the units AP by 2 (or 1.5 in the case of W bless) without increasing the unit's base AP. This means that a unit with a W bless will attack twice roughly every other round (they'll do their double-attack on the first hit if they're close to their target or on the second if they had to run far) whereas a unit with full quickness will attack twice unless they had to run more than they could normally move.
Isaiah Powell
Fair enough. That does make a certain amount of sense. As you realized, I haven't been keeping up for a while. Just started joining games again a couple months ago.
Leo Gomez
I am greatly enjoying fucking around with EA Pangaea Maenads Losing 433/800 of them against 300 enemies isn't even a pyrrhic victory; that's well within sustainable losses.
Oliver Evans
They're pretty phenomenal once you can get Mass Regen and Mass Protection on them. Growing Fury also goes a long way.
Robert Smith
>flinging army after army into a player's last doomstack, killing vast amounts of enemies in each battle but losing nearly the entirety of my army each turn Having more gold and gem income than your opponent is fun
Cameron Hughes
>not killing his army efficiently so that you can simultaneously conquer other opponents
Hudson Murphy
>Not having fun
Kevin Lopez
I actually do think that's fun, though
Blake Perry
I am not sure you fully understand how many Maenads turmoil Pan can get every turn.
Luis Watson
Oh, maenads. I don't even count those as units. When he said losing nearly the entirety of his army I thought he meant losing stuff that mattered.
Aaron Moore
So population increases income. And I know that LOW pop can reduce resources.
Does high pop increase resources, or are there a set amount in province that only start getting limited when the pop drops below certain levels?
Kevin Foster
yeah, both resources and gold scale with pop
Nathan Green
Anyone ever work out how long it takes for Growth 3 to beat Production 3 on resources?
Eli Bailey
sup guys, still looking for feedback for this unofficial la machaka pastebin.com/LtjMNTp0
changed sacred costs to be in the 22-28 range reformed hoplites now cost 15 gold levy troops now cost 12 sangomas are now N2D1H2 200?FAWE, 50?FAWE, 10?ND, worried that they're too powerful though, may restrict them based on terrain type cap only sangomas are now N2D1H2 200?FAWE, 100?FAWE, 75?FAWE, 50?ND
Ryan Harris
initial testing suggests that the cap only guys are way too fucking good
Jackson Evans
Just out of curiosity, why A? No previous age of Machaka had it.
Wyatt Lopez
spirits of the sky are pretty important to a number of sub-saharan tribes, so i figured it was in theme
Ayden Watson
changed sangomas to N2D1H2 200?FAWE, 10?FAWE and 10?ND cap only sangomas to N2D1H2 200?FAWE 100?FAWE, 50?ND
Colton Bailey
How do I want to gear out a golem or father illearth as an SC? What sort of items do people like using?
Gavin Roberts
I think I might take a stab at a dragons dogma mod over the summer. I know I plan to make the regular troops basically indy level and give them shitloads of monsters but I am wondering how to go about it. Like should I give them a bunch of summon spells or is there a way to make monsters summon automatically in your dominion or something.
Cooper Jackson
What bless do you have? What is the army composition that you are dropping the golem onto (you are teleporting it in, I assume), especially mages? What mages does the enemy have on hand to counter Father Illearth?
Ethan Jones
Golems usually take starshine skull, elemental resist gear, and a brand/vinehshield. Illearth is more of a caster so whatever
Luis Powell
Turns out AI Atlantis has heavily invested in PD.
Kevin Bailey
...
Daniel Green
Its ok though I only lost like 10 crazy people and one slightly less crazy person.
Luis Wood
Last call for someone to sub for Nazca
Jacob Ramirez
Just let them die Admin, no one is going to sub into a nation with its cap under siege by indys.
Joseph Gutierrez
k, I'll AI them
David Wright
How the fuck did they come under siege anyway? If it was barbarians or trogs I could understand but its just regular heavy infantry and shit.
Bentley Harris
Heavy infantry and a bunch of fire/something else mages. Poor guy
Colton White
FOR DISCLOSURE'S SAKE:
I AM ULM IN COMFYARMCHAIROFDOMG AND THE ADMIN I AM SETTING NAZCA TO AI THAT IS LITERALLY ALL I AM DOING, I WILL NOT CHEAT BECAUSE IT PROBABLY WOULDN'T HELP ANYWAY AND ALSO WOULD BE A DICK MOVE PLEASE TRUST ME
Carter Smith
That might cause problems for your turn, desu
Nathan Wilson
I sure hope these two random diseases are just a coincidence and not a pair of black servants with bane venom charms.
Dominic Evans
What cool things can you do with a Conjuration 20 site and mainly blood magic? Slightly cheaper thug chassis?
Logan Johnson
Would that site even work with blood magic?
Caleb Hall
No
Kayden Lewis
Nothing.
Conj 20 is nice for tarts/royalty though. And some nations get a discount on really cool summons like niefel wolves/draugar etc.
Nathan Williams
Game: MokouIsHot Turn number 24 Next turn due: 21:50 GMT on Thursday December 15th
Loser AI and staler hall of shame: 1. Jomon 2. Caelum 3. Abysia
Thanks for subbing Abysia, replacement Abysia!
Abysia 2h file received Agartha 2h file received Atlantis 2h file received C'tis 2h file received Gath 2h file received Marignon 2h file received Ragha 2h file received T'ien Ch'i 2h file received Ulm 2h file received >Utgard Waiting for 2h file
Gavin Butler
Oh whoops, meant to say Death actually. Of course Blood wouldn't work. Tarts would be kind of nice but I'm much more likely to be bottlenecked on casters and not gems. Saving 2 gems per cast isn't going to make a huge difference.
Andrew Lee
>Saving 2 gems per cast isn't going to make a huge difference Not if you summon them with 4 casters for 20 turns straight.
William Smith
Where the fuck are you getting that many D7 casters?
Jayden Nelson
Late-game.
Angel Thomas
Both boosters and a ring on Liches?
Dylan King
>tfw I just find 50 more rangers in one of my provinces >tfw this isnt even the first time its happened
Michael Adams
4 + 2 artifact wand + 1 skullface
4 + 1 staff + 1 skullface + 1 ring of sorcery
4 + 1 staff + 1 skullface + 1 ring of wizardry
4 + 1 staff + 1 skullface + 1 black book of secrets
4 + 1 staff + 1 skullface + 1 robe of the magi
Justin Jenkins
Honestly, Death isn't going to see vast benefits from a 20% conj site.
Tarts are unlikely to ever be gem limited, since you're needing to pay 100+ gems just to get anything that can cast it. You can get Banes at a saving of A Gem. Or TWO gems for Bane Lords! Woo.
Wraith Lords are pretty boss, but the Immortal means even with the 20% discount they're pricey for what they can do. I guess you could give Harvesters of Sorrow bane venom charms and send them to follow enemy armies around?
It's an edge, but it's not a game changer.
Jason Watson
I loved getting 20% conj as Lemuria. Suddenly, you save 10 gem per grand lemur.
Owen Anderson
Yeah. If you have national summons it'll be amazing.
Bentley Jenkins
Why does Abysia get the pride of lions spell?
Julian Sanders
>He doesn't know about fire lions
I realize we're all autistic NEETs here, but watch a documentary occasionally or something, dude. They're the third deadliest mammal in africa.
Asher Ward
Desert Lions?
Brody Young
Mesopotamia.
Kayden Lewis
I know this is like the second time in two days, but I need a sub for MokouIsHot Utgard. Late age noob game. I know there are some noobs out there who might be interested. Utgard is only at war with the Jomon AI afaik and had a good expansion prior to that (first player to claim a throne), so you have a good opportunity to make some gains, but you will have to reverse some losses taken during his stale period. I'm putting a 24 hour extension on this turn, if we don't get a sub after that he's getting set AI.
Carson Hughes
I'm sorry, but I can't respond until you use a new picture. That's the one you used last time.
Juan Davis
I like that one, sue me.
Grayson Lopez
Dominions is 85% off on steam right now.
Charles Miller
Only 30% off for me
Oliver Lopez
sorry, meant gamersgate
My bad
Dominic Ross
To be clear, it's $5.25 on gamer's gate. Five dollars and twenty five cents.