Heroes of the Storm General - /hotsg/

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>What's new?
Two new heroes, Varian and Ragnaros announced at Blizzcon, along with a new brawl map and a couple of new skins.
us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20327398/new-things-announced-at-blizzcon-2016
youtube.com/watch?v=4900jOY8cCM

>Which heroes should I buy?
Play all the heroes on free rotation and see who you like. Don't buy heroes just to get into ranked. It's not worth it.

>Where do I find you Odin-without-Master-Assassin-talenting faggots?
/join Veeky Forums

>Current weekly brawl:
us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20395948/heroes-brawl-of-the-week-december-9-2016-garden-arena-12-8-2016

>Latest patch notes:
us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20405715/heroes-of-the-storm-patch-notes-december-14-2016-12-14-2016

>Official site, general news:
us.battle.net/heroes/en
heroesnexus.com

>Hero rankings, various statistics, talent calculator:
hotslogs.com/Default
heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator

>For new players:
youtube.com/watch?v=wPk004vsjuE

>Tips and other useful resources:
heroesofthestorm.github.io/tips

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9 wins 1 loss on ragnaros

people who say he is not op are stupid

I don't like looking at sad KT :^(

>Do some qm
>Dehaka on my team just burrows to the middle of enemy team
First match of the new patch and I already dislike it

When go meteor build? when go sulfaras? when go blast wave?
bls resbond

>enemy rag possesses a fort and thinks he's gonna kick my ass
>I'm leoric and laugh as I demolish him

>mfw i'm tychus and have my D ready for Molten Core

>Ragnaros can kill an entire Zerg wave by himself with Lava Wave and Molten Core

Literally how is this fair?

>playing abathur
>spend a couple minutes setting the lane pushing hard
>hat someone fighting the enemy heroes
>suddenly die
>rag used his ulti on the lane
>all your hard work gone with one click

He's broken on every map, but yeah he makes the objective in that pretty pointless.

pls respond

(you)

If you can't avoid such a telegraphed move you have no business playing abathur

>have lane pushed up to enemy keep
>just as you hat someone to help them, rag casts his shit
>you literally don't have enough time to drop the hat and move out of the way

That talent was better when it was a quest for 15% flat movement speed increase

Also taking less damage from abilities isn't as relevant if you're fighting team comps with Illidan/valla/raynor/ and the like

Also I can't think of an utterly worthless and unusable talent, just talents that happen to be on the same level as really consistently useful talents but I don't play this game much I'm sure there's more than a few talents that are just trash tier

You can sit to the side of it before hand you nerd

>outplaying yourself

If you're that close to the keep/core then just sit further away from the lanes, perhaps?

They'll gut Lava Wave in the coming days, anyways.

Daily reminder that literally everything about Rag is viable

Is he broken? To be fair I haven't played him myself yet, so I'm pretty ignorant of his side of things. Maybe not OP but it seems like a little much.
Azmodan can really push forts but he's kind of garbage in fights. Xul is fantastic at pushing and sets up kills but he can't really afford to be in melee combat that often. Ragnaros gets tons of health in combat like Thrall and Cho'gall, he has a speed-up that also does a good chunk of damage, and instead of chain lightning his meteor forces them to eat tons of damage running away or stay and get beat on by his team.

So he's excellent in fights but he's also the best (counter)pusher in the whole game and his ultimate is pretty low key so if you're in the middle of a fight you might not notice it. You can't defend your forts if the wave is coming or you'll eat tons of damage, and you can't push into his base without eating tons of damage. Especially once he hits 20 and can throw waves out once a minute.
Molten Core is super cool too, especially since it boosts sulfuras' range so much, but if it's going to negate objective damage it shouldn't be 100% risk free. Make it like longboat where if you take a stand and kill him dead he's stunned for 3 seconds or gets reduced to 1hp. He's just too good at everything for him to have 2 really great ultimates and then 180 seconds for a third ult that's better than the old Odin.

It's fucking fantastic
I can pick whatever build I want and still have fun with a fair chance of winning the match
And the enemy team is always down a member because their Rag is retarded

Ragnaros is fucking BROKEN

Break this *grabs dick*
BY FIRE BE PURGED

why
t. haven't played since patch hit

Because he's too well-rounded.

Also seems like he has the potential to stall the shit out of games, for better or worse.

Like Thrall, he's an alrounder, except he gets more damage and less sustain in exchange.
Like, a lot of damage, regardless of which build you go for.

His Trait is absolutely retarded good and I -love- it, as someone who hasn't even bought Rag seeing a teammate just punish two nigs who thought they could safely push is fun.

His ults are both great and Lava Wave will -completely- clear a lane and in

What hero do I pick if I want to minimize my risk of losing cuz all I want to do is autistically farm lanes?
In other words, it would be better to participate in team fights, but all I want to do is play pve. Which hero is best for that?

Azmodan

the lost vikings

Raynor

>Xul
>Zagara
>Azmodan
>Sylvanas
>Gazlowe
>The Lost Vikings

Finding a game as a duoqueue takes ages, what the fuck is going on?

Also this, if you don't mind grouping up for the fights around 16 and 20, or at least the latter.

oh does rags trait allow him to soak sky temple and blackheart objective damage

if so how much, haven't played yet

No clue how much, but he does absorb it

>ragnaros is first ban
>nobody bans samuro anymore
>nobody picks samuro anymore
why does it always take another hero release for the shitters to notice?
Rag will be nerfed to shit in the coming weeks too.

4k at Level 1, up to 8k/12k at level 20 if you pick the Heroic Difficulty Talent.

On the other hand, BHB and Sky Temple deal a -fuckton- of damage, so you're probably only gonna block somewhere from 4-6 shots.

He's kind of like Thrall in that he's good at literally everything and has multiple builds for any situation. It's very difficult to counterpick him.

What I feel makes him broken is his ridiculous defense potential; Molten Core and Lava Wave will shut down almost any push attempt as long as you're not like three levels behind. I've won games by basically denying the enemy of any good pushes and stalling.

Molten Core in general is just insane, especially if you pick Heroic Difficulty at 20 (which I feel you should), because you can use it offensively too and bully the enemy team back. Being able to do that every 50 seconds is absurd.

not enough 3-mans in the queue
we all should be going into TL as 3 or 5 from now on

Honestly they should have just rebraded him as a defensive type Specialist (it would be the first), and focus on doing cool stuff with Molten Core, Lava Wave, and general anti siege gameplay

On the one hand it's only enough to save you from a couple shots, especially combining the laser's damage over time and the naturally diminishing health, but on the other it's a pretty gigantic defensive boost for one team to just shrug off 3 out of 12 cannon shots every time the objective comes up. Or you know the damage is all done to Ragnaros so even the base version of MC can totally protect a keep from a direct hit on warhead junction.

just spent 12 mins in queue as duo

that is not okay

How do you get the snowflake mount? is it in that one bundle only? do I have do buy this years specific skins or can I just buy any skin right now?

Only available by buying the Lunara/Nazeebo bundle.

This years bundle only.
It's for special snowflakes, after all.

>snowflake mount isn't a gold mount
I ain't spending €40 on a fucking mount.

Maybe that's why I am enjoying him so much. Thrall was always fun to play. I felt I could do anything I wanted.

Rag has so many little moments of shit going just right, whether it is timing a wave or shooting blind meteors or getting your quest complete in moments from a Samuro.

All these little feelgood moments.

>still can't buy hots shit with wow gold

Itll come to the shop without bundle at one point or another. probably 9.99

For Ragnaros, what is the difference between E and Q build and when should I pick one over the other? I feel like Q is better in general but I'm not sure.

>wasting money on vanity items
buy heroes you really want when on sale.
waste gold on master skins
dont get new hero right at release. he will be first ban anyway until he is """balanced"""

>go aba
>clean all camps with montrosity
>tell teammates to go and capture them
>they don't do it
>enemy morales goes around capturing the camps
>manage to capture one before morales got there
>team bitches on how no one captured camps
????????

People aren't used to high level abathur play. They expect you to be sitting in fountain and assume you've been hatting people when they don't see any sine of abathur on the map for 40 seconds at a time.

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reddit.com/user/SSJ5Gogetenks
>ponyfucker

They are in this thread RIGHT NOW!

>picking montrosity

>>go aba
thanks for the loss asshole

>montrosity
no thanks, I'll pass

>locked in a team fight
>It's 4x5 every time, starting to get tired of the opening engagments
>No clones, no hats on anyone
>"Guys one of you should peel off to make it a 3x5 to get these camps I spent the last 8 minutes grabbing by myself!"
>"lol my xp gain is fine for aba X D"
>"I haven't died lol X D"

kys

>montrosity
dude montrosity lmao XD

>8 minutes
?????
Stack a 40 monstrosity and it cleans shit faster than 3 heroes together

>le slug meme
>afk all game

I'm just replying because everyone else is doing it

>That one Chromie who PERFECTLY predicts all of your movements, even in the dark
>Always know exactly which shots you are going to dodge and which ones you aren't
>If she thinks you are going to try to dodge, she always knows EXACTLY where you're going to dodge to
>Always hits every shot at max range, so you can never catch her

This is a fucking nightmare

I love Chromie when I predict the movement of enemies properly
I fucking hate Chromie when I never land my hits

>it's another "teammates break themselves on the five-man clump instead of getting objectives, camps and pushing" episode
why must you do these things
im not even an abathur player im an azmo main

HOW THE FUCK ARE PEOPLE SO FUCKING DEAF?
I haven't been hit by a single Lava Wave yet, but every fucking time enemy Rag uses it, at least on of my teammates gets globaled. It has a sound notification, it's visible through fog of war, it's marked on the minimap. And the fuckers still stand in lava. HOW?!?!

>play aba again
>top is doing 1v2
>manages to half bar a lili
>she goes into the bush that was full of mines
>she ded
feelsgood lelo

People stand in fire to this day in wow

E is superior unless you're playing with/against a comp that makes diving really hard

I mean, like, you can make it up to somewhere in Platinum or Diamond without even looking at the minimap.
The skill level of the average hots player is pretty fucking low desu

lmao

>tracer/zeratul/nova tries to rotate
>loses 60% of their health going from mid to bot
>either feeds free kill to laner or recalls
slug can be fun

Ragnaros is a GOD on Tomb

These brawls last too fucking long for me to give a shit about whatever free thing I can get, fuck I can barely stand playing one match of this shit.

Brawls in Hots and Overwatch are garbage sadly. instead of fast paced fun things its a dragged-out snoozefest

ghost protocol was fast and fun
this one just drags on forever and ever

PAUL SHALL BURN

RRREEEEEEEEEEE

I got placed in silver today and spent 18 hours of playing with Jackass bronze noobs and now I'm stuck in bronze 1
What do?

>placed silver
>dropped to bronze
>in hots

what's it like

is it fun

make a new account and do quick match

Yeah, the MMR calibrates pretty quickly, especially if you win the first ten in a row. Sucky.

>wonder if i can drop from mid-high plat to bronze in placements this season hm

>play against and with a couple of pros
>it gets streamed
>when you do good and even get mvp

>hots
>pros
;^)

>trying to get from rank 5 to 1 in preseason
>queue into a zeratul and falstad that seem good
>nvm falstad died to abathur hat on minions
>falstad e'd into a fort and died
>check afterwards
>it's fan and kure

zz i just wanted the dumb portrait

too soon

hm quick match and unranked mmr doesn't have any affect on placements if you played ranked before, right

>get grubby
>pick zeratul
>they counterpick hard
>proceed to get raped
jesus that felt bad

just go Q build if you're bad with meteor

>buy ragnaros
>play it in QM
>high stats, always better than the ragnaros in front of me
>carry the game
>people matched with me are all retarded
>after three games ask a guy what is his rank
>silver
>check all the players of the game
>they got a portrait for being silver or gold during the last season
>I was diamond 1 during the previous season
What the hell. Is this just because I play ragnaros or... ?

It's like a hell or mental asylum you can't escape

>playing low level hero in qm

Doesn't this lower the mmr of those you play with/against?

Every specialist.

>play with mewn
>shittalk him
>play against mewn
>win in 7 minutes on cursed hollow

kek

I wish I could feel this feel. Shame I dont play on burger servers

Neither do I. I'm EU and had those two games with him here.

I could've sworn it was something they did, or at least suggested doing a while ago. Just places you against worse players when first playing a hero, or below a certain hero level, or something.

never really tested because i mean like unranked/qm, and all my heroes are 5+

lmao nice

Don't tell me Ragnaros doesn't have "DIE, INSECT!" line in the game

you're right, I think they have done that, I remember now.
But still, going from Diamond to silver is a bit too much even when I got ragnaros lvl 6...
I wonder if it's not also because of the number of people playing ragnaros.

I'm pretty sure thats what he says when the enemy Rag uses his lava wave

Sorry I was playing him for the first time

No source or any statistical data to show this at all. Why does /hotsg/ try to excuse and defend the shit match-making all of the time? Even in the useless trap that us HL, GM can be matched with and/or against Bronze. Just goes to show rank means and affects very little.

Yeah, I'll poke around for the source now. Keep in mind this is just Quick Match, and possibly Unranked Draft, where matchmaking rules are probably already loosened.

>amount of people playing rag

Might play a part in it, ye.