Help me pick my next car because I'm torn between 2. Should I get the BMW m240i or 2017 Camaro 1SS?
I've made pros of both
M240i xdrive Only .2 seconds slower to 60 Girls love BMW and even though we are moving talking a 2 series they don't know any better and the car will still cost close 50k The interior is superior Men have literally picked girls up by simply putting the keys on the table at a bar as much as you closet cases don't want to admit it but it has happened Better for the snow
Camaro SS Looks much sexier Faster to 60 and the quarter, not by much but still faster Dude Bros will think the car is impressive Dual mode exhaust is awesome
Why not? Xdrive is better for snow and faster off the line
Grayson Watson
Seconded
Ryder Sanchez
Why no xdrive?
Robert Cooper
>Xdrive is better for snow No it is not
Caleb Hall
So awd is just a meme? I've driven rwd and awd in snow and the awd is better
Hunter Gutierrez
Xdrive is poorly designed
Austin Powell
With good snow tires it should not make much of a difference.
Eli Young
My brother has the v6 Camaro, it is hilariously fun with the exhaust. The ride is pretty firm which is my only gripe since the steering is kinda eh in terms of feel.
It's very impressive how good they made the new Camaro though
Levi Mitchell
I don't plan on switching my tires out for the winters
Ryder Diaz
are you buying or leasing? will you be or able to do your own maintenance work? do you enjoy doing the maintenance work?
people give bmw a lot of shit for being costly but i think those are the people to drive the hell out of their bmws and follow the manual on maintenance i rarely redline my bmw and change the oil every 7500 miles rather than the book suggesting 10-15k i even had the oil changed twice a year when it was under warranty, had to pay out of pocket for that extra oil change
havent had to do any repair work on my bmw yet >2010 328i, 74k miles currently but if it does require repair work, i know itll be a huge pain in the ass cause everything is tightly packed
Hudson Rogers
I plan on leasing, if I like the car enough I'll buy it in the end but odds are I'll just lease the newer version or a different car all together when the lease dies so I don't need to worry about maintenance
How is leasing throwing money away? Are you one of those kids who pays over half the value of the car for a 3 year lease?
Dylan Phillips
Shit
Caleb Taylor
as per Longpostguy; leasing only makes sense if it's a business expense that you can write off on your taxes or you're only going to be in the US for a year and don't want to deal with the hassle of selling before you leave.
>buy car someone else leased for 1/2 msrp >get to keep car It's not that hard OP
Camden Perry
how were you planning on driving the camaro on snow if you think you need awd?
Isaac Sanchez
>Girls love BMW and even though we are moving talking a 2 series they don't know any better and the car will still cost close 50k
Who cares what girls think?
Lucas Morales
t. Gay
Julian Cook
You forget they don't get the warrenty
Tyler Mitchell
You can get a warranty on certified pre owned cars
Landon Diaz
They want to rap and make soul beats just like you, thats why I bought a rb26det to be a dope rice boy just for you.
Jayden Cook
This
Bentley Powell
You mean those used dealers who overcharge and never budge? Enjoy
Hunter Jackson
C4 LT4 Corvette + add comfy seats
Carter Mitchell
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Jacob Ward
I mean dealers that sell new cars, but have certified pre owned cars from leases.
Evan Butler
camaro is best bang for buck buy it 1 year used though
Camden Morales
don't buy it
it's slower than a civic
Noah Young
lol what a dumb comparison around a certain track, yes, its a much heavier car but off the line, no, it smokes the civic
but neither of those is the correct criteria because hes not fucking racing it hes driving it
so which one will be more fun to drive, more comfortable, help him pickup chicks, etc
sadly i think most girls are probably impressed by the bmw more but id say the camaro is pretty fucking sexy too
Nolan Green
>damage control: the post
Owen Clark
Look I'm not a poor fag I don't buy used cars
Leo Rodriguez
this. the camaro is overrated trash
Jack Morgan
>he doesn't know what SS stands for >defending a sport car that's slower in the turns
Absolute maximum disgust
David Scott
If you are not a poor fag then why are you leasing?
Ryan Brooks
So I can just trade it in for a newer version after 3 years rather than have to wait to sell the thing. I also won't have to worry about cost for maintenance after 3 years
Jason Cruz
>worries about the cost of maintenance >I'm not a poorfag guys
Connor Davis
The money you spend on payments for 3 years
Will always be more than the cost of ownership of a used $2,000 Corolla/Civic (that was inspected) over 10-15 years- period
You didn't even account for your insurance being 10x higher
How about you buy the car that you like and don't worry what other people think. It's your car, buy what you want. Cars aren't accessories.
Jack Diaz
>I should burn my money and give it away cause I can
Fuck off commie
Why would I want a used civic?
Oliver Barnes
That 2000 dollar civic costs more than a new bike. You are wasting money
Charles Fisher
>buying a used civic != buying a cpo m235i I'm just saying that buying used does not make you a poorfag, but leasing a car does make you a poorfag
Jacob Nguyen
>bike >convenience, comfort, utility >300,000+ miles with little upkeep
Pick one stupid bike fag. Enjoy being too pussy to ride in a torrential downpour and plow through standing water.
Adam Gray
So buying a used civic at 2k does not mean you are poor but leasing a 50key bmw every 3 years means you are? Wowa
Ethan Adams
You realize I mean bicycle right you funding retard?
Caleb Moore
It's like all used cars are not equal or something.
Jaxon Gonzalez
t. Ugly bastard that needs material good in order to impress the other sex
Samuel Cook
You brought up a flicking used civic when I was talking about a new BMW mw40i xdrive. How about you pick a more relevant used car than faggot
Oliver Ortiz
Says the guy who has probably never had a relationship for longer than a month
Ian Murphy
>implying this doesn't apply to a bicycle
Andrew Jones
If you find a bicycle to be uncomfortable it's because you are a fat fuck who can't fit his ass on the seat and bicycles are low maintenence
Lincoln Evans
Why are you comparing a 2010 Camaro SS?
The 2016 is lighter, has more power and better handling. Please read threads with more attention; OP clearly mentionned he wanted a 2016 SS, not a 2010
Christian Ross
>You brought up a flicking used civic Unfortunately there is more than one user on Veeky Forums :^)
Xavier Ortiz
>it's because you are a fat fuck lmfao, yeah show me a heated leather bicycle seat since we are doing a "fair" comparison >bicycles are low maintenence
What you save on maitenance will cost you more with time wasted and sever environmental/vehicular injuries.
Try again
Joseph Myers
there are no major differences
Parker Nelson
Yeah no major differences besides a new platform, 200lbs lighter, more power and a better-handling suspension; nothing relevant indeed
Elijah Martin
My dad actually commutes on his bike daily and it's actually ended up costing more than it would have if he had driven every day. All those sprockets, cassettes, chains, plus the cost of the bike, tires, brake pads, etc. His car is paid off though.
Anthony Peterson
>camaro >handling
Josiah Gray
>a model can never improve so if something sucked previously, it will always suck
Why are you shitposting about cars you don't know about ? The 2016+ SS is praised for its handling
You're wasting your time... These poorfags will never be satisfied with anything if they can't afford it.
OP, I have a 2017 2SS Camaro, I came from a 2010 Nissan 370Z Sport/Touring/Tech... The Camaro is a great car, It's loud when you want it to be, handling is very solid and hides its weight well (I have Magnetic Ride Control so your experiences might be different) and it's fast.
My only complaint is the abundance of hard touch plastics... The entire dash except for a strip of leather is plastic, the door panels except for a patch of leather (2SS/RS only) on the top and the armrest is leather... Otherwise, it's a nice place to be in, visibility while not great isn't as bad as it seems.
Joseph Gray
op
avoid camaros
mine broke a mile from the dealership
they refused to agree to the warranty
Parker Gomez
my BMW broke 100 meters from the dealership; they're garbage
Bentley Diaz
same
my camaro broke a foot away from the dealership
LMFAO. utter trash
Nathan Long
pics or it didnt happen
Grayson Hughes
I looked at my Camaro just before I was going to leave the dealership and it spontaneously combusted. They refused to cover it under the warranty
Juan Sanchez
My 918 caught on fire a few inches from the Porsche factory. glad i had my reliable back-up car the Ford Pintoâ„¢.
Carter Carter
I ordered my camaro and when i went to go pick it up it threw a rod while they were backing it off the trailer They refused to cover it under the warranty
Noah Diaz
this. gm has no quality control
Eli Lopez
That makes no sense. Do you forget cars need gas, registration, and insurance? All of which would cost more than 10 bikes a year?
Jeremiah Martin
Commuting thirty miles on the interstate (one way) on a bicycle would be a problem.
Mason Robinson
>rb26det Did you do the single turbo conversion yourself? Or are you just retarded
Jordan Martinez
Why the fuck would you want to stay in a relationship more than a month with the stupid bimbo who fell for you because you leased a bimmer?
Jace Scott
Do you even think before you post?
Dylan Flores
>Foxbody 5.0 makes less power than a stock Coyote 5.0
Jason Hill
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Jayden White
If you really want a new BMW, get a new 7 series or an M, and sell it about 6 months before the warranty expires. Otherwise, if you insist on new BMW, look at a 440i.
I love me some BMW V12's, but I'd sooner buy a new Ford than a new BMW.
Evan Williams
>>Xdrive is better for snow >No it is not
Holy fuck are you retarded? Of course its better for snow you absolute retard.
Put a RWD BMW beside an awd bmw and send them up a snowy hill, see which one has a better time at it. Or put them in any snow above a foot
Sebastian Adams
F-body is not a fox body. It's a 4th gen camaro/firebird
Xavier Miller
>hurt durr amount of snow matters No it doesn't. If you live in civilization the roads get plowed.
Nolan Gutierrez
don't be a cuck and get the camaro, girls love them too, this opinion is comiing from yurop(bmw is getting worse and worse every year)
Noah Long
>i dont live where it actually snows more then 10 days a year
Angel Campbell
How does it compare against the 370z? I'm hesitating between a V6 Camaro, V6 mustang or 370z (can't afford a 2016 SS)
Carson Evans
any piece of shit murrican car attracts girls and attention since they are so rare in europe you dumb shit. In america people appreciate luxury cars not some redneck racecar
James Reed
I had a loaner V6 Camaro for the last week (my 2SS had paint issues).
Only way a V6 could be fun is if you get the 1LE equipped, The base suspension is firm but disappointing... Mine had an 8 speed automatic and it sucked. I think it would be more decent if it were a manual.
Handling, The 370Z has a better feeling and felt more agile. You can feel the weight in the Camaro but it knows how to make the weight work... The Z is super tight inside, both have shitty visibility but the Z has more better interior materials but shit tech.
It's hard to say which one beats it since I went from 2SS to 1LT base V6 (on 18s, not 20s) and know there's decent V6's in between (2LT/RS & 1LE)... 2SS to 370z goes to the 2SS easily, It has more power and handles great. But base 1LT to 370Z is easy to say for enjoyment purposes the Z was better but I think if it were a stick and had a higher trim (better wheel/tire) it would be pretty damn close comparison.