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>list of good comm. servers
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>Tips and guides
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>Trading
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BP check: backpack.tf
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Scrapbanking: scrap.tf scrapbank.me
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>Competitive
Basics: playcomp.tf
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ETF2L (EU): etf2l.org
AusFortress (AUS): ozfortress.com
AsiaFortress (Asia): asiafortress.com
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>IRC
irc://irc.rizon.net/tf2g
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>/tf2g/s looking to party queue
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Post things others have drawn for you.

Trump will make Tf2 great again!

imagine if one of the games timeframe really did become involved in the story though, maybe a flashback to theodore roosevelt punching a bear

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Whomever made this thread, post ID, i want to give you something

g-give me what user

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The title of Premature Threadjaculator

i made the thread because anonymous number one hundred and sixty-three million two hundred and twenty-three thousand three hundred and six told me to

"whenever you make one" does not mean go make one immediately, dingus.

stop calling me names

faggot

maybe I could be your girlfriend for tonight user-kun

meanie

chekc out this buttblasted faggot
get rekt
faggot

:(

Will we see bill's hat below 1 key?

yes

no

maybe

i dont know

can you repeat the question hahahh hah

we did it reddit :)

Will we see bill's hat below 1 key?

>tf2 thread

new chart

>Munitions
>not ̶M̶u̶n̶i̶t̶i̶o̶n̶s̶ MANN CO HEADQUARTERS
can blizzard do anything right?

>Air strike
>Pomson
>Natascha
>Vita-saw
>Broken

lmao

>Why is this weapon designed for playing against a team of 12-16 players in a game designed around teams of 12-16 players so shit in 6s? pls buff

t. only plays pubs

vita saw is something everyone says is op but no one would use it if it was allowed

t. only parrots opinions by "comp experts"

>donker cannon
>deals 50 damage
>over used

i barely see that shit anywhere

t. only parrots opinions from SPUF

you need to donk again after the first donk
double donk

natascha was a mistake

too far. take that back, motherfucker.
explain how any of those is "broken and can't be fixed with a simple buff/nerf" other than the sandman

you think the nastacha is broken? a fucking -25% damage? the pomson after its hard ass nerf? nah nigger

Natascha: Slows players in a game with a heavy focus on movement. This is TF2, not Overwatch.
Pomson: Drains Uber on hit, even if it is a bad weapon, the fact that an Engineer can spam into a combo to completely change the outcome of a push is awful.
Short Circuit: Complete hard-counter to a class meant to be your hard counter. At least the Spycicle stops you from backstabbing for a while
Vitasaw: Rewards dying.

this

all those there in broken are perfectly fine with the right number buffs, except id say the Short Circuit

it was perfectly fine at -10% , now its useless at -25%. Oh, gee, maybe it would be """"balanced" at -15%, just maybe

And they already hard nerfed the uber drain of the pomson except for melee range, its just a more linear shotgun now

>when you find a tf2g on a random as fuck youtube video comment
wew

?

who did you find
where did you find her

>tfw no femboi pyro bf

>Steak
>Needing to be nerfed

>Slows players in a game with a heavy focus on movement.
There's casses with weapons that will outright deny your movement, being slowed down is no big deal in comparison.
>Pomson: Drains Uber on hit, even if it is a bad weapon, the fact that an Engineer can spam into a combo to completely change the outcome of a push is awful.
I'll give you this one because I haven't played a lot of pomson.
>Short Circuit: Complete hard-counter to a class meant to be your hard counter. At least the Spycicle stops you from backstabbing for a while
Thyen give it a cooldown a-la spycicle, it's a simple nerf.
>Vitasaw: Rewards dying.
Unless it gives you free 20% charge no matter how much you had before dying, it's not a reward. Also -10 hp means a lot in a mode where the medic is the backbone of the team and primary target of the other team.

>heavy to mid

>heavy sitting around with his melee out and his thumb up his ass on mid
>heavy only getting to mid marginally sooner

How often has 10 hp realistically been the thing that saves the medic

>There's casses with weapons that will outright deny your movement
which are?

Pyro with his airblast. A good soldier/demo with decent enough aim can also fuck up your movement. That's about it, though. Still not really as cancerous as the natascha.

>he doesn't know how to airstrafe
pyro stuns you if you get within close range, where Pyro is already strong
soldier and demo have knockback, which can be anticipated and surfed away

natascha is hitscan without a maximum distance

see

The pyro and the demoman

Well it's a silly chart in the end but here's my 2cent:
I see many underused but powerful weapons in that list and sadly it's true.
>Broken
Why you think Air Strike is broken and what's wrong with Natascha?
>Very Overused
Nobody uses Bonk anymore. Everybody abuses Crit-a-cola. Bonk needs to go down.
>Slight Overused
Machina needs to move up, that shit is plenty about and it's not even funny.
>Perfectly Balanced
Jag doesn't see many uses after 3 hit sapdrop nerf. Swap places with Wrench imo.
>Slight Underused
Nobody uses PBPP same goes with BFB. They need to drop a tier down
Nobody equips Shotgun on Heavy unless they wanna play vanilla, FB is better.
Wrench needs to go up at the place of The Jag.
>Very Underused
Backscatter owns, and people use it. Need to go up 1 tier
Family Business is way widely used than stock Shotgun. Need to swap places.
>Do not know
Persuader should be at Very Underused because Skullcutter or Eyelander are way better
Panic Attack should be at Very Underused again for all classes
Nobody uses Claymore.
Rocket Jumper is Trolldier's bread-and-butter move to Slightly Overused.
Booties are a staple of Skullcutter Demoknights now Slightly Underused fits better.

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hi im feathers

hi feathers how are you
can i suck you are dick

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why would i ever stop sucking dicks wtf

>head comic writer said the new issue will be out by the end of the year
>DOTA got their update with comics

We are either going to get the new comic with the Smissmas update or we won't, and if we won't this will be definitive proof that Valve and its shitty writers couldn't give less of a shit about TF2.

Oh, don't be such a baby.
Writers come back!
No they don't.

how many are left

I keep forgetting there even is an ongoing series

>all to one person
>one person which litterally who and leech with 0 positive rating
nigger what are you doing with your 16 keys

>Playig Causal
>Random Rubber Banding
>No changes in ping

anyone else getting this tonight? Others in my server were getting it also, and not just those on toasters either.

how two speel wrods corecly??? i donnot now!

My 2 cents, stealing template from other user
I see many underused but powerful weapons in that list and sadly it's true.
>Broken
Sandman and SC can easily be fixed with simple buffs/nerfs. Natascha, Air Strike and Pomson are totally fine. Vita-Saw is the only weapon in need of a full rework.
>Very Overused
No objections. Changing RS's minicrits to only working on targets below 50% HP would nerf it for Pyros without nerfing it on Soldiers (as they need to do damage to juggle people).
>Slight Overused
Degreaser should have the alternatives buffed, not be nerfed. Targe is fine, QBL is rare, Cannon is fine, Steak needs rework, Gunslinger is fine, Cuntsman is fine, Diamondback is fine
>Do not Know
Rocket Jumper is fine, holiday punch should be nerfed as it has no real downsides
>Natascha: Slows players in a game with a heavy focus on movement
LOL
Heavy, Pyro, Sniper, and Engineer have almost no focus on movement whatsoever. Spy and Medic's focus on movement is minimal when someone's not specifically targeting them.

Natascha is a weapon not even banned in 6s anymore, it's perfectly fine, stop being a big sook.

>Pomson: Drains Uber on hit, even if it is a bad weapon, the fact that an Engineer can spam into a combo to completely change the outcome of a push is awful

Except Pomson does not affect Ubered targets. Your Medic has to be a real retard to ever get hit by the slow-moving beam that doesn't pass through players and will at most reduce about 2% Uber

>Short Circuit: Complete hard-counter to a class meant to be your hard counter

It's not a hard counter dingus, it's a soft counter. It has a much more limited ammo supply than Demo's SBL does, Engie will die if he misses a shot, and is easily beaten by a combined attack. It just needs a nerf.

Vitasaw I agree needs a ground-up rework.

Pyro's airblast, Engineer's Sentry knockback, Demo and Soldier's juggling, and the Sniper Rifle will do more than just deny your movement

CHRISTMAS WHEN

I THINK ITS ON THE TWENTY FOURTH

END MY SUFFERING I JUST WANT MY FREE STUFF

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strawpoll.me/11917152

tf2r.com/k8rqswk.html

>mfw too smart to disagree with the strawpoll

the comp mindset
"hahah dont ever use heavy he cant get to mid on time"
"oh wait with those weapons he can"
"lets ban those to shit and pretend they dont exist and still shittalk heavys mid rollout"

I agree, but on the other hand, gru really does make heavy overpowered, and should be nerfed

if it had, say, a 25 max HP penalty and blocked overhealing that would be good, then heavies would be killable at mid without having to run permaheavy or permasniper to counter him, and GRU could safely be unbanned in 6s

You're voting for TF2 instead of Skyrim, Civ, AoE or Terraria right anons?

store.steampowered.com/news/26415/

Skyrim is only 5 years old and had to be remastered
Civ is only 6
Terraria has another voting category if you want to vote for it
AoEII is good, but TF2 would stand more to gain from the recognition

>Snowycoast first point
>Red has literally 6 snipers and a single sentry
>My team CANNOT cap the point
w h y

We will have either only blog post or both post and update today. It wouldn't make sense for them to release an update 2 days before Christmas, they won't have time to fix gamebraking bugs because family and shit, so I expect it today.

post loadouts

tf2 should win.
its 7 years old and still in the top 5 most played games on steam

to be fair, snowcoast first has way too ridiculous a sniper sightline from on top of the main choke from the shithouse opposite red spawn, and raised such that demo and soldier poke doesnt work, it has to be an attack from the air

I see your point but I don't think it would've been much of an issue if the only medic didn't run in and stand still directly in the sightline refusing to heal anybody but the heavy statue for the entire 5 minutes.

why the fuck is Civ V and Skyrim in there theyre new, i mean maybe as representatives of the whole series, Morrowind/Oblivion, Civ 2,3,4

Tf2 is nine years old.

>That sniper
love it

stop making me feel old goddamnit it came out yesterday for me

What is your Christmas wish for this update, /tf2g/?
Mine is the promised optimization, becaise on most maps I get unpleasant input lag that fucks up my aim, especially because I main Scout - the class that requires the most aiming to do well. They promised it after Gun Mettle and there were some optimizations in the patch notes of Tough Break and MYM but it's still awful. It's the only thing that stops me from playing TF2 everyday after work. I even downloaded Paladins, and even though it's not a bad game it's nothing compared to TF2.

>input lag
Turn off v-sync, AA and multi-core rendering

>tfw the last good update was like one and a half years ago

The only good update was the one from beta to release.

I don't have v-sync and AA. Disabling multi-core rendering will just lower fps.

>Red has literally 6 snipers and a single sentry
>w h y

It adds a bit of input lag due to the fucky way Source utilizes the CPU, but I don't know why else you'd have input delay unless it's from something else on your system.

i remember when i was a little kid if i asked santa for too much id get a letter back saying he was sorry that he couldnt get what i asked for
i feel like thats whats gonna happen if you ask for optimization

I'll try it but I doubt it.
Forgot to mention that the lag doesn't happen always, but when looking at action. It's fine in spawn looking at a wall for example.
It most likely correlates with drop in FPS, but it doesn't drop below 60, more like 70-80, which should be fine. I think it's an anomaly and not just fps drops because it doesn't happen in Paladins or CS.

blue player :kick him hes hacking
Spinning Red Sniper is Godlike >20
red player : nah i watched him hes not hacking
red also: not hacking u r just bad

end of round; sp1n2w1n2008 255, i_pocket_hackers 100, highest_other_red 3

I'm very fond of that demo, friend

homo heavy, no homo medic

get the homo set for medic; bare chest/village people mustache