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Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Dragonewt Country Edition

Shadowverse is a class-based collectible card game akin to Hearthstone /hsg/.
The next expansion, Rise of Bahamut, will be released on December 29th.

Official reveal site:
shadowverse.com/cardpack/riseofbahamut/

Compilation of all cards revealed, including leaks:
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jfOwl01oC0Xw7Jowun6LBK_01qzmpauM6yN7VhYlefc/edit#
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Platforms: iOS, Android, Steam (store.steampowered.com/app/453480/)

Official Website:
shadowverse.com/

Card Database/Deck Editor:
shadowverse-portal.com/

Intro Guide/FAQ:
pastebin.com/xNmQuDzR (embed) (read this if you're new)
docs.google.com/document/d/1Ibw62rcFMrkvWl_KPKUuRC_0f7LbvwE27ubQ-EJo0oQ/edit?usp=sharing

Take 2 Card Rankings:
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1k55fDS9LpX66H-pm5EgGouqwQSCF-sje-o5UwrXUwdI/htmlview#

Get your cheat sheets here: imgur.com/a/Dpbmh
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Some user made an all-in-one Steam undub and uncensor:

mega.nz/#!tl1mGaIQ
Decryption key: !tsu910nR6lT_xTQAx9QUNI_96DLJ0mvgIwwThp5lPS4
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Artwork of all the cards, ripped from the game:
mega.nz/#!ekIjXaza!qKXIP9x0tZ5ooNDXk-HHudlUBiZR_Zt3pmF4PhYMxrI

A growing collection of animated golds/legendaries:
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QUpZN9cgz0dvh637EYl5Pcx7PkXJlpufIL9Muc08jB8/edit#gid=1781390872

Come here if you want to search for card artworks:
corpetit.com/public/rage_of_bahamut/

Search by artists:
seesaawiki.jp/mnga_bahamut/

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You can listen and download both EN/JP voices for cards at this place:
usamin.love/sv.html

Get your [email protected] Emblems and Sleeves with this guide:
steamcommunity.com/app/453480/discussions/0/152390648098880643/
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hearthpwn.com/forums/hearthstone-general/general-discussion/28947-group-therapy-need-to-blow-off-steam-mega-salty?page=1428
usamin.love/card/otohimes_bodyguard/j_death.wav
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Inmate
Inmate

Nice vagina bones, Charlotte

Emberburn
Emberburn

veekyforums.com/thread/163206281/video-games
reynad thinks it's overrated and a noob trap

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

nth for Luna is cute.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Post 4 Banner

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Remember to make sure your clergywomen are infertile!

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

the fuck does reynad knows about anything

viagrandad
viagrandad

83 losing streak

Bidwell
Bidwell

atomeme gets DoD'd two turns in a row

why

likme
likme

the flavor text is the best because people shit on banner all the time jajaja
he's rank 1 legend in hearthstone

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

stop trying to play neutral ptp, dingus.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

The daily gods have spoken.

Please forgive me for what I am about to do, /svg/.

Lunatick
Lunatick

it's a "draw your late-game against aggro blood" episode

eGremlin
eGremlin

arturian memes
Absolute madman

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

Arthurian Light? That seems so stupid that I'm convinced there's a secret trick to it I don't understand.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

I've watched him try to play storm haven

Why do people think he's not retarded at all is beyond me.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

Are you like using default decks in A rank and above or something?

askme
askme

Threadly reminder card reviews are always wrong because you can't analyze a card in a vacuum. Also Reynad is pretty shitty at card predictions/reviews and the like.

massdebater
massdebater

it + leonidas' resolve meme

iluvmen
iluvmen

Stop your shitty meme
or post your deck to get bullied

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

sandbagging for over a month

I regret wasting so much time. Could be AA0 by now.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

gain over 100 for a win
lose less than 80 for a loss
when am I supposed to be stuck at a rank in this shit system?

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

just got over 700 wins
still half way through AA2

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Are you trying to test how long it takes to sandbag your way from Top of B3 back to beginning of B0?

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

Rebuttal.
He puts pegasus in storm haven.

Booteefool
Booteefool

I think she is solid in storm haven and possibly in post-RoB certain shadow decks. You shouldn't just ram her into any deck though.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

sure you could have user

Inmate
Inmate

how a card fair in hearthstone has literally nothing to do with how good it is in shadowverse.
just look at spartoi soldier and silverback patriarch

Emberfire
Emberfire

this

eGremlin
eGremlin

What the hell are you even trying to do with that deck
>Avant blader lmao

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

When you get out of gutter ranks

JunkTop
JunkTop

Tell me more about this Reynad character and his opinions.

Nojokur
Nojokur

This can't possibly be real, certainly at some point someone would've turn 0 surrendered.

Illusionz
Illusionz

Covering your name on your main account
And both IDs
What a fucking faggot.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

450 wins
Middle of A1

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

Diary of a sandbagger
Here's another (You) by by the way.

cum2soon
cum2soon

She's also potent in dragon, come RoB she's going to be even more busted in dragon.

Methshot
Methshot

not if they see you are playing dragon

Methnerd
Methnerd

what is the gutter ranks, so I can know when?

WebTool
WebTool

I'm calling it now, she's gonna be crazy good in a Last Words Nephthys deck. Being able to detonate and resummon stuff like Lurching Corpse, Khawy, etc. is gonna be an absolute godsend.

MPmaster
MPmaster

Mango reviewing 2 weeks old leaks

massdebater
massdebater

No more winstreaks from A onward, and from A onward you gain/lose 100 for a lesser or equal opponent, and get a little leniency for a higher ranked opponent on the gain/loss.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

should've gotten him off turn 2

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

B3

nigga please

massdebater
massdebater

This is your Jeanne for tonight

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

miss her so much lads

Illusionz
Illusionz

I'm in A though, I gain more than what I lose. I mean I go on winning streaks, but it can't be that the bonus is still there. Can it be? I just think the system is shit in general at this point.

w8t4u
w8t4u

Didn't consider that addition. I think too many people will shove in all the LW followers and be surprised when they lose though.

Evilember
Evilember

It's a hard world out there, and sometimes things seem like they will never change
But don't give up user, you have the power to create miracles. I believe in you. I will always be in your corner; always by your side.

Is there a better wife material?

TechHater
TechHater

mfw I've first 9 times in a row
Sometimes I feel this game wants me to fail

girlDog
girlDog

BURD

massdebater
massdebater

I'd definitely run Urd in a Nephthys deck even at the risk of killing a Nephthys play.

Though personally, I plan on running a last words control kit without Nephthys, just abusing Urd and Necroassassin first.

Inmate
Inmate

going first isn't bad depending on the matchup. it's actually a 50/50 good or bad thing.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

She has great synergy with Lurching Corpse, especially since the opponent is not going to want to kill that thing until they can minimize risk of losing their big guys.

Supergrass
Supergrass

It's going to be a competition between Dragon and Necro to see who can make people salty about Urd.

That's what I think.

Dragon can use Urd to draw an extra 3 on top of the other stuff they're doing now (albiet off-curve)
Necro gets to combo on curve for an extra lich

Personally I think Necro will be making better use of her.

takes2long
takes2long

Forte changed to 5pp 5/2, unattackable, fanfare: if overflow is active, gain storm
Better now?

Techpill
Techpill

But I never draw my 1 drops and I play sword.

Methshot
Methshot

Luna's tits are canon

FastChef
FastChef

Patch when? Aggrobat doesn't even fucking work at C0. I remember people climbing to Master with just bats.

Nojokur
Nojokur

gain more than what I lose.
Because you get matched against people of higher ranks.
A sees a lot of early AA matchups which are still pretty easy.
My progress didn't slow down until I hit AA and started seeing AA2+ players.

Illusionz
Illusionz

killing

On an empty board that's still 3 other roles.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

You are meant to eventually get to masters if you put in the time, the system is built to propel anyone who can get close to (not even) 50%+ win rate onward and up.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Nope that makes it shit.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

Doesn't Nephthys only call out shadowcraft followers? I thought they were making some "not trash" neutrals partially for Nephthys.

5mileys
5mileys

post deck, so I can see how many 1 drops you have. Also, that doesn't mean going first is the problem, it's your draws.

Playboyize
Playboyize

just get more luck bro :^)
t. luckshitters

Firespawn
Firespawn

Are we posting them now? After playing Hearthstone for about a year and a half I find this game to be better on delivering a ranked experience, even if I'm technically still on a "beginner" rank.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

The sandbagging japanese netdickers have completed their tier 1 decks.
It's over for budget aggro

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

You made her much worse. She needs to do damage, not have easier access to protection.

MPmaster
MPmaster

But mother, I want this Jeanne.

happy_sad
happy_sad

[CAW]

She'll call out random followers (except Nephthys) with different costs.

massdebater
massdebater

I routinely got 15+ win streaks down in C and low Bs with bats. It absolutely punishes non-optimized decks.

It's much more of a struggle in A now.

Inmate
Inmate

best burd

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

the lads

Lunatick
Lunatick

People here also say you can't climb with DShift but I always see Japanese in Master with only Rune played like this guy twitter.com/AkaneGG/status/809357394920603649

farquit
farquit

? I asked for a deck, not what Neph does. I already prepared for her.

w8t4u
w8t4u

48 wins
in C

user you don't really have the experience to call that kind of thing.

massdebater
massdebater

Meant for

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

Lightweight

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

You are doing something wrong? Aggro bat/shadow, face dragon and bannermeme still works fine in C.

Firespawn
Firespawn

Some of the top ladder guys are playing Dshift, I don't buy into the notion that it's a loser's deck at all.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

Bane?

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

not in the right order 6/10

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Possibly, although it should be pretty obvious to most that you can only run followers of 4 different costs if you want to (mostly) remove the RNG from Nep. Since you wanna fit Urd in, you're gonna run Hell's Unleasher for a 50% Lich chance with Nep, and then it comes down to preference, which in my case is gonna be Mordecai at 8, Khawy at 7, and an assortment of LW 2-drops.

Oh absolutely, it's gonna be wonderful getting Corpse off more than once. Getting to drop Urd on Khawy would also be insane, although that'll probably never happen.

Dragon might find some fun uses for her, but using that draw option means the Dragon player would probably be running discard.dek, and so far that's still suicide-tier even with the new leaks - and drawing more cards is the opposite of fixing that problem. Shadow just has so many great ways to play her now, it's gonna be a blast.

MPmaster
MPmaster

how come cursed general doesn't see more play?

Methnerd
Methnerd

That guy has been streaming DShift on niconico almost every day and also plays at work in his break and tweets about it.

Evilember
Evilember

Maybe I think like that because I'm really fucking burned out of hs right now. The new expansion pretty much took away what little enjoyment I got from the game.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

Bannermemes can still get you masters. Aggro bats gets fucked hard by some of the top decks now that everyone knows the matchup and is running them.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

How does master point work? 1176 mean he is top 1176? So their is like 1175 people better than him? Or is it 1176 win this month?

Really makes you think.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

Drain?

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

I'm honestly of the opinion that people killing themselves with Discard is more a problem with not enough people bothering to properly learn the deck (not that I can blame them with their complete lack of tools until now) and blindly spamming Altered Fate and Angel Crusher.

farquit
farquit

Finished my first t2, how'd I do?
Lost the second game against haven with endless answers
Somehow pulled through against sword with otohime 6 on last game
To be fair I had a Lord of the Flies or two drafted.

happy_sad
happy_sad

what counters dshift?

w8t4u
w8t4u

burned out after 48 games

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

banner

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

He doesn't live a turn, is too much mana to combo and would comes out too late and would only work with the "give ambush" followers which is too unreliable.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Requires vengeance to be worth dropping for the most part. It's a tech option if you find yourself racing other decks and losing. But if you are facing opponents that outvalue your drops and take over the board, she is close to useless.

MPmaster
MPmaster

All the aggro and storm decks. Or just rush the person down.

w8t4u
w8t4u

Most fast Aggro decks

Inmate
Inmate

HURR DURR I CANT READ
I said burned out of hs. Hearthstone = hs you fucking nigger.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

His win rate is also a lot higher than Shadowlog's DShift rates always are.

SniperWish
SniperWish

go fast and dont evolve your 2 drops

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

I want to get Corpse off more than once!

Booteefool
Booteefool

It means he has like ~10-11 net gain of wins under his belt this month. Probably a screenshot taken not long after monthly reset.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

Disco's gotten some real good tools too.

3pp 2/3 FF: deal 2, discard a cardThat is fantastic.
Kit is value incarnate for discards, though I wish he discarded at 1pp so he'd have priority over 2pp drops for disco.
Auxite Dragon allows you to refill your hand, probably with the goal of draining it with things like trail of light and kit as priority mulligans so you don't lose valuables.
Owl Guardian is protection and removal.
Ancient Dragoon is a solid wincon.
Rites can be tutored out (albeit on turn 4) now, giving at least some draw.

Honestly it might work.
MIGHT.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Probability wise, running more differently costed followers with great effects is better than running only the same cost followers. This is because having multiples of different costs increases your chance of not pulling something like Urd or Ghosthound. The way the RNG probably works is that is chooses a value and then randomly chooses minions from that cost, meaning that if you have multiple values to choose from, the probability of you pulling something with last words is increased.

1PP x2 Soul Conversion
2PP x3 Lurching Corpse
2PP x2 Bellringer Angel
2PP x3 Ghosthound Sexton
2PP x3 Skullcradle Widow
3PP x3 Pact with the Nethergod
3PP x3 Follower of Darkness
3PP x3 Foul Tempest
4PP x3 Hell's Unleasher
4PP x2 Urd
6PP x3 Death's Breath
6PP x2 Balor
7PP x2 Underworld Watchman Khawy
8PP x3 Nephthys
8PP x3 Mordecai the Duelist

While this list is obviously not perfect (since, of course, it hasn't been actually playtested), it holds high odds on different pulls you can get, all of them granting you good effects.

Supergrass
Supergrass

I guess I've been facing too much Elana's and Ward decks. Can't get past a 3 Win Streak.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

Whoops, thinking of the wrong card. delete this

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

bats, aggro dragon, banner

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

tfw feel like buying a few legos but RoB out is coming soon

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

How many wins should it take to get to Master

5mileys
5mileys

Too heavy!

hairygrape
hairygrape

This is your toy for tonight

SniperWish
SniperWish

~600-800

eGremlin
eGremlin

I think dragon is an unplayable mess right now and I think there is nothing wrong with discard dragon.

I do think cygames is fucking garbage for completely fucking over any other version of dragon except aggro though.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

What if the RoB meta is just the DE meta with each archetype getting an extra card!? WHAT WILL WE DO THEN?

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

Yeah, I know. I wasn't trying to make an actual deck, just showing how the probablity can be maxed.

Booteefool
Booteefool

RoB is coming out soon*
derp

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

It's a Commander so its automatically bad

Skullbone
Skullbone

so with this list you'd have
2,4,6,7,8

So assuming your board is empty you'd have 4 pulls.
2,4,6,7 is the worst pull you could get. The worst being Sexton, Urd, Balor, Khawy.

So worst case what would happen is this:
You would get a 5/5 on the board, 4 shadows, deal 3AoE, and eat their highest atk follower and heal for its atk. That is still pretty damn good.

That's not bad at all.
I honestly hate that decklist and think it'll die on turn 5-6 most games, but it is a good example of the power of neptits and building around her.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

I really want to know if Nephthy's chooses a value before checking the follower, because if that's the case I might try a list with singleton Mordecai.

viagrandad
viagrandad

Can you post the ones for Vania and Luna if you have them?

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

I fucking hate card games.

WebTool
WebTool

How many conceeds does it take to get there? Im at the edge of C3 into B and im think of sandbagging

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

Like I said in a previous answer, it isn't an attempt to make a working deck, since we need to playtest with the actual cards first. It's just to demonstrate that even with the worst possible outcome, you're getting something real good, just like you demonstrated.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

Vania's sprites

Playboyize
Playboyize

aggrobat doesn't even work at C0
Try again.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Luna's sprites

Spamalot
Spamalot

I am A3 and aggro bats is still viable

girlDog
girlDog

After being bullied by bald men for so long Luna snaps and shaves her own head

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

post deck

RumChicken
RumChicken

Woah. What's your deck? I'm doing fine with my deck but that's impressive. I'd love to know what differences there are.

FastChef
FastChef

Post your favourite common in Rise.

I'm starting off by taking the obvious 3 of in every deck from now until the end of time.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

two sprites for tiddies

lmao 1 chest piece

i think we can agree who is superior

Soft_member
Soft_member

make elana deck
go from a0 to a2
feel like an asshole
never play elana again

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

Do forte pls

iluvmen
iluvmen

Not really, though - the best way to max her probability is to make it stop being a probability at all. Played on an empty board, she'll pull 4 different costs of followers; if you only run 4 different costs of followers, she'll pull roughly the same things every time. For example, say your lineup of followers is Bellringer, Skullcrade, Corpse, Urd, Unleasher, Khawy, and Mordecai. With just these, your Nep play is as follows (not taking into account followers that are already out of the deck):

2pp follower: 66% chance to draw a card, 33% to destroy a random enemy follower
4pp follower: 50% chance to summon a Lich, 50% chance to brick with Urd
7pp follower: 100% chance to get Khawy's effect
8pp follower: 100% chance to get Mordecai

As long as you can resist running followers of other costs, this is the most consistent Nep will be. Of course, you could drop Urd for 100% Lich chance, but personally I think she's useful enough to risk missing out on a 4/4 vanilla body roughly half the time.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

I'm at the very end of A3 and Aggro Bats probably had the highest win rate in the bracket for me. A3 is dominated by Haven during my play hours and Bats does a great job preying on the match up.

RavySnake
RavySnake

Assemble your own dork

TechHater
TechHater

Want to play forest
Only have one Ancient Elf and one Tia
Is the next expansion spicing up Tempo Forest? Or is it remaining the same?

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

Last 5 cards are 3 Imp Lancers and 2 Demonic Storms. To be honest this deck isn't anything special but it works.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

Let's check the math on this. Say she does calculate based on mana cost first.

So for ease of math say you play neptits on turn 8 and never, ever get any extra draw.
No widows, no soul conversions, no going second.
and say you never get mordecai on your mulligan.
Then you have a 22% of drawing him before you play neptits.

If you draw 2 extra cards, so say a single soul conversion, then there's a 28% of having him, and 32.5% if you draw 4 extra cards.

I'm not sure. You're looking at probably 1/4-1/3 games where it will be impossible for nep to get him. But you also greatly lessen the chance of just drawing a mordecai before turn 8, which is basically a dead draw as opposed to multiple mordecais for straight . I do not know, it might be worth doing him as a one-off.

Emberfire
Emberfire

I reckon we have the same deck famalam. I'm just surprised how you aren't going against some sort of Elana or ward infested decks with that streak.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

This picture lacks the best "Nah." of all time.

JunkTop
JunkTop

have to play Bannershit
NO

Illusionz
Illusionz

I don't think Tempo Forest will change much at all with the expansion.

3x Ancient Elf will probably be Forest core until the day the deck dies. You can get away with less Tias in PtP right now, and I'm sure there're going to be builds with 0 Tia running around in Rise meta to make room for the new cards.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Forgot the image

Soft_member
Soft_member

Personally think Mord is too heavy with Nep. You're already getting a 5/5, another one seems like overkill and other effects seem more helpful like Balor or Ghostly Rider which also probably let the game last long enough to get that far.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

the xpac looks like it's gonna fuck tempo forest right in the ass.

Control Forest is what's getting support, though most of the cards that aren't maahes and white wolf range from bad to okay.

With Crystallia being an outsider of "I'm not sure"

Bidwell
Bidwell

dat torso
Yes, yes!

Skullbone
Skullbone

Latham finally closes his mouth!
Sorta.

Emberfire
Emberfire

This is why i cant play Ptp, RNG always fucks me

sometimes they came with 2 altered fates right next to them

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

I think Rhinoceroach does more work than Tia or Ancient Elf fampai.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

Where can I see all the revealed Bahamut cards in one place?

Trying to figure out how much vials I'll need for new Control Blood cards

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

But you have to understand the following: You need to put things on board to survive until turn 8. Just running removal and making her your only wincon would be really dumb. Having more choices for what can happen and having more actual good effects makes it so no matter how many followers you used before, the effect will still be good. Like this you have a 50% chance to brick with Urd. With my example, you have around a 12.5% chance to brick entirely. My point is that more variety would convey similar effects and brick less often.

Follower of Darkness, for example, is basically having extra Hell's Unleashers. This means your Best case scenario will also improve.

Methnerd
Methnerd

we have almost the same deck, yet for some reason, I can't get winstreaks with it in A

WebTool
WebTool

fall for the sandbagging meme
see this just now
Duh fuck did they always do this shit? I dont remember seeing this last month, how hard is it to break into the top 1000?

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

New player here, with a retarded question.

I started playing on Steam a few days ago, and I don't have a phone to link my game to to get those x3 free packs for linking (my phone is shit, old, can't handle the game, etc). Is there anything else to link the game to, or is it just phone and Steam?

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

Everything revealed is on the official site. We're just missing like 8 cards or so, which we don't know yet.
shadowverse.com/cardpack/riseofbahamut/

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

shadowverse.com/cardpack/riseofbahamut/

Blood got lots of love.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

You can use an android emulator.

Inmate
Inmate

use emulator my dude

hairygrape
hairygrape

bent sword

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

Hungering Horde
Bloodcraft - 2PP - Spell
Deal 3 damage to an enemy follower and all other followers that share the same name.

Holy fuck it's real, I saw it earlier in the doc but didn't believe it

erase Death's Breath for 2pp
remove all bats/fairies/guardiangolems/etc. for 2pp
leave Otohime guardless for 2pp

This card might singlehandedly throw control blood into T1, holy shit

Supergrass
Supergrass

A what? Not sure what that is. Never really did any phone game shit or anything like that so I dunno anything about emulating phone shit.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

Thanks I wasn't aware they updated the site with the new reveals. I'm used to Hearthstone where it's a clusterfuck of streamers and random chinese sites getting card reveals and someone has to keep track of it all.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

So confused on if i should continue sandbgging or try to climb into top 1000 that i forgot my pic

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Thanks for the insight my dudes. By the way, should I craft the Rinoceroaches? I'm actually planning on not buying DE packs since I've gotten most of what I need, aside from those, the other Tias and at least one Levi.

Emberfire
Emberfire

yet another T1 deck countered by Dshift

SniperGod
SniperGod

If your old phone has the game available on the store anyway, and have enough space (about 600MB), just install it and link your accounts.

You don't have to play any matches that might lag or crash the game.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

should i put otohime in my bannememe deck

Lunatick
Lunatick

its as easy as typing in google android emulator my dude

Spamalot
Spamalot

How to play non-aggro shadow?

Emberburn
Emberburn

netdecker in charge of deckbuilding

RavySnake
RavySnake

Why do people even censor?

I get the meme by censoring everything to joke about it, but really.

Are they afraid people are gonna send them pizzas?

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

The long forgotten rivalry between Blood and Shadow returns, except this time, Blood doesn't have a 10% match up.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

sure, if you're not using Maid Leader. And then you can throw in Aurelia.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

They announced it at the very start of December.
It seems that they'll be doing this every month now to encourage Master players to continue playing the game.
Not sure what rewards the following months we'll get but expect it to be the same format of animated legendaries + rupies

King_Martha
King_Martha

FoD actually makes me consider running urd and necroassassin.

Sure you'd have a brick of a 4drop from neptits pulls, but it would greatly strengthen your game before then.

I'd also consider keeping some way of having ghosts just for soul conversion, ghost trades, and just the sheer utility they bring.

I'm feeling that going for a guaranteed amazing nep pick ain't gonna be the best shot. Instead you're gonna want to build it so you can never brick that badly. So like you're always guaranteed 1-2 real good pulls from her, with a mixture of good to bad mixed in, shit that will allow you to really build board and keep theirs in check.

askme
askme

Bloodhungry Matriarch

Fuck, should I craft another Vampire Queen now or wait until the expansion is out?

SniperGod
SniperGod

No leggo banner is more consistent imo

Lunatick
Lunatick

Actually trade and aim to win after turn 6, i think

TreeEater
TreeEater

Die monster, you don't belong in this world!

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

in D rank
being placed against B rank people

Is this game dying?

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

can someone explain why its so satisfying to crop faces from images?

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

But shadow has no competent cards for that kind of play, unless you want to meme with Tyrant

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

Unrank?

w8t4u
w8t4u

Him and Urias were bros though

Techpill
Techpill

that's it
I'm buying all the legos for a top tier deck

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Matriarch seems more like a midrange thing. If you already have 2 then I wouldn't though, and I would only craft her if you really want to play control right now.

Firespawn
Firespawn

Exactly my point. You don't want 1 result, you want multiple results. Even in the worst case scenario, it's 4 Shadows, a Card Draw and destruction of something (maybe even board clear with Balor's Effect), with 2 cards that don't do anything. Don't know about Necroassassin in a Nep deck though. I think it would fit the other varieties of Shadow a bit better. Probably Atomy Shadow, since you have that new ghost spell and more disposable things.

Flameblow
Flameblow

No, was in ranked for my D3 and got matched against B1

SniperWish
SniperWish

Those ranks are so fast, most people might be in b rank.

I do.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

Veeky Forums is getting shadowverse adds now

SniperWish
SniperWish

Combine that with Veight the 3pp ward of value, Duke Zoofucker
Sadistic Night, possible one of the best removals in the game
and Blood Hungry Empress, board eater
Control and MR blood are gonna be in happy places.

Hell Moriana looks fun and might see play, Wolfman is gonna be great in arena, Behemoth is a solid threat, Squall Lancer is alright, and Warfiend is gonna be stupid good in arena topdeck wars.

Blood is in a happy place.
I can see a few blood decks coming from this, some not really using much self damage.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

fucking slag hang

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

So, ideas on how would the meta look like post RoB now that almost all the cards have been seen? Or is this sort of thing always hard to predict?

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

these ladies want you to come and play
They act like its a porn game ad.
I hope this is a shoop.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

link me your favorite miku songs, faggot

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Hiro is keeping your data safe

w8t4u
w8t4u

Digging through the files and found this.

I don't remember Losaria turning into a shade at any point of the story. I'm probably just remembering it wrong since it's been so long.

StonedTime
StonedTime

These are very big Unicas

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

might just be unused shit

Illusionz
Illusionz

Shadow's basically the king of grinding, you just wear out the opponent by either eating their followers with removal and trades or eating their spells with sticky followers then plop down Death's Breath, Lord or Mordecai and hit them until they're dead.

Booteefool
Booteefool

Alternate Leader Losaria when?

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Losaria best girl

hairygrape
hairygrape

Except you're playing Shadow, so not only can you coast on your great removal options (Foul Tempest, Deathbrand/Pact of the Nethergod, etc.) but you can just use spells that summon followers, such as Death's Breath, to avoid having more followers clog your Nep chances.

Also, no, that doesn't make your best case scenario improve at all, because as soon as you add in a 5th follower cost you're rolling with a 20% chance of not getting Mordecai, and that just goes up every time you add another cost. Ideally you want to be closing the game on turn 9, and that's not gonna happen without Mordecai - not with how many AoE boardwipes are about to be running about. In my case, the best-case scenario is a draw or a removal, a Lich, Khawy's heal+removal, and Mordecai, while my worst-case scenario is a draw or a removal, no Lich, Khawy's heal+removal, and Mordecai. Meanwhile, your best-case is roughly the same, but your worst-case is dreadful things like nothing from Sexton at 2, one Lich from Follower of Darkness at 3, nothing from Urd at 4, and hopefully a Balor/Khawy/Mordecai in the last slot, which is infinitely less effective than my worst-case scenario.

tl;dr it's better to sacrifice follower pressure on turn 3 than to deal with high probabilities of missing Mordecai on Nep, which in many matchups will outright cost you the game.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

best girl

Skullbone
Skullbone

avant blader
lose well deserved :)

whereismyname
whereismyname

Yeah, i can't find it a good at all
It makes me lose so much time
6 lsoe streak with Bannershit

Nojokur
Nojokur

I love this meme.

farquit
farquit

So PtP Forest is Losaria's deck?

cum2soon
cum2soon

Please stop slandering Eris, she is only 25.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

Do you think they... you know...?

TechHater
TechHater

best girl
almost 0 lines
She's also a puppet. I wonder, whatta fuck is wrong with you keddit.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

DE or Standard pack

I blame you if it's shit

King_Martha
King_Martha

:thinking:

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

DE

Snarelure
Snarelure

DE for better gold

Flameblow
Flameblow

DE higher chance of pulling leggos.

RumChicken
RumChicken

youtube.com/watch?v=WiUjG9fF3zw
youtube.com/watch?v=8kX5_69sO8Q

farquit
farquit

Post Dirt Rune please. I really feel like building a wall right now.

likme
likme

This is your Princess for tonight.

hairygrape
hairygrape

I don't really see the point of matriarch
Control blood as already enough damage from hand that a glorified demonic storm is not really gonna do much

WebTool
WebTool

What're your thoughts on Selwyn's Command?

StonedTime
StonedTime

thanks user saving everything

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

You better don't listen to my oppinion
I have terrible winrate with Banner, can't take it out from unranked at example
7 lose streak right now

happy_sad
happy_sad

ripped off haven

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Alucard fucking sucks why does anyone run this shitter

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

the card art's pretty cool
whats it do?

Methshot
Methshot

I guess she died?

Evilember
Evilember

I love her design and I'm disappointed that we might never see her again.

RumChicken
RumChicken

Here's your Swordcraft leader for tonight.

JunkTop
JunkTop

I think it's a pretty versatile card, and will definitely see play.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

4th Curse oh boy

I've already liquefied 2

Lunatick
Lunatick

4/4 storm with a potential 4 heal
shit
I bet you think Gilgamesh is shit, too.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

user the personalities and storylines in this game are atrocious.
Not having that forced on her is a plus.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

I guess you can say that you are cursed to get this card haha

TreeEater
TreeEater

Might work in aggro decks

And by that I mean they just want it for the Storm and will never use the enhance effect.

DeathDog
DeathDog

LOL

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

youtube.com/watch?v=cSojYMzTl_c&list=FLtDu06ZoNf7oGr2_sORt9wA&index=15
youtube.com/watch?v=c10o4Bksr3Y&list=FLtDu06ZoNf7oGr2_sORt9wA&index=23
youtube.com/watch?v=AU6PL0LH4_Y&index=57&list=FLtDu06ZoNf7oGr2_sORt9wA

Booteefool
Booteefool

Why couldn't Erika's design look this good?

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Summon a 2/1 Storm. At Enhance (8) it also adds a 0-cost Selwyn to your hand.

girlDog
girlDog

Printing spells for underused Gold followers? I want them to print a 2PP spell Summon a Shadow Reaper Enhance (8) Instead, destroy all followers, then summon a Shadow Reaper and give it +X/+X for each allied follower destroyed.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

He is user

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

I have enough vials to craft another Queen Vampire, what should I get rid of to fit her in?

I'm thinking I should get rid of the Temptress Vampire, she's just too fucking slow

Emberburn
Emberburn

Real idiot hours right now.

RavySnake
RavySnake

Bald women

JunkTop
JunkTop

9 Lose streak with Banner Sword
What i am doing wrong with a "Play Followers on curve" deck?

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

eufags woke up

w8t4u
w8t4u

stop user!

Techpill
Techpill

Video your games.

Methnerd
Methnerd

I just had a rude Havencraft player spam "Hello" 4-5 times a second.

Are there some macros that allow them to do that, or can you actually do it in this game if you're fast on the mouse?

I thought the Steam version was a direct port of the iOS/Android ones, aka, all actions have some delay.

TreeEater
TreeEater

It's no wonder she's a disposable vessel.

Nojokur
Nojokur

You didnt become one with the face

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Control the board, go face pretty much only when they don't have a follower to trade with.

Foul Tempest is great anti-zoo, Playful Necromancer is awesome as a drop on turn 4 if you're second. Charon, LotF, etc.

Your aim is to be able to put the board in a state where you can do 10-15 points of damage in a single turn to win, or try to outvalue and grind them if you can't. Don't be afraid to use Cerberus cards to trade, the +2 or straight 2 can do miracles for maintaining board state.

viagrandad
viagrandad

What happened in those nine games? Banner can be sorta kinda ugh if everyone you met angelic barrage you.

hairygrape
hairygrape

This is strictly my assumption, but I've always assumed that they just did it manually at an average speed but the internet delay delivers all of them to you at once.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

1. Hoover over the emote
2. Click/press/tap it rapidly in succesfion
3. 3 emotes in 0,5 seconds no matter the platform

there u go

Firespawn
Firespawn

Because she doesn't hit your board and oftentimes I find myself with a bat or two leftover on my board at the end of turn 6-7, so anything that she doesn't kill outright and turn into pings, will be damaged enough that I will likely be able to kill it with a token ping. Will that still be a thing now that all these AoE's are being added? I dunno.

But having a turn 7 enemy-side only AoE that turns all kills into face pings could definitely see use in blood. A slightly weaker demonic storm with a 4/5 body, that is a must-remove on the scale of bloody mary, and is really bad to trade into for killing?
That can easily see play in control, it's fucking great.

You play this after they play tia and you clear at least everything sans Eve, deal 3dmg to face, and if you evolve into tia, it's a full board clear and 4 to their face.
You take no dmg to anything else on your board, nor any face dmg and are left with a 6/1 empress.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

What is /svg/'s opinion on Kana "Kanashii" Yuuki, voice actor for the main heroine of Shadowverse, the hit online TCG?

idontknow
idontknow

You have to admit, she makes a cute abomination heralding the approaching apocalypse.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

samefagging newfaggotry with new IP

TechHater
TechHater

why would people here have any opinion on irrelevant shit like that

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

Probably does JAV

JunkTop
JunkTop

Well, I'm talking from a mathematical standpoint. We don't know what's going to work until we playtest. Maybe you're right, maybe I am. We can only wait and see for now.

Removal isn't going to win you the game though. Remember they have 20 health, and that if you haven't made a considerable dent into that by the point you pull Nep out, you aren't going to win.

They can easily dispatch Nep, leaving you with a Mordecai and maybe some small amount of health. Having just what you said would pretty much guarantee death early because you can't deal damage for your win con to work.

You can't depend just on Death's Breath either, since the board wipes in this expansion came in big numbers.

What I imply with variety is: Nep is just there to help, and not to win you every single game. You also have to think you need to actually draw her, and if you don't, you're screwd.

I'm not saying my list is godlike or anything; it's really heavy. But having at least an amount of variety is better than only running 5 or 6 different followers and being way too far away from lethal.

You do have a point in the aspect that if it doesn't have RNG, you're guaranteed a good result. Although, probability states that the average result in a large pool of variety is better than the best result in a single choice result, for the simple reason that situations differ.

The other LW followers are there to be filler until you get to turn 8, pitching small amounts of damage enough for you to close in the game with Mordecai or Nep.

You must also consider that your board may also not be empty, and that Nep might not be a viable play. Having other choices to tech in at that time is better than being stuck with the rest.

But we'll have to wait and see. Like I said, you may be right, or I may be right. We can only find out after we play the actual expansion.

Illusionz
Illusionz

She has a fetish for Luna. Just like me.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

Can I get a concede please
58870

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

I hope

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

Now you're getting it right. Nexus is top tier

RumChicken
RumChicken

This and i am always falling for i must take control in deck who are supposed to face
I can't play these deck at all
Probably going for 10 lose streak

TechHater
TechHater

I don't like her. I like Arisa, though.

Booteefool
Booteefool

You're a solid fighter.

I laugh every time.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

goes on about Luna in tight black stockings for like 30 seconds

Lesbian lolicon.

hairygrape
hairygrape

control blood
can't control shit
too many high pp cards

RumChicken
RumChicken

How to gitgud with the sword deck without using banners?

FastChef
FastChef

erikafags this mad

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

Balanced Old Wizard of 3 Face Damage and Outracing Aggro does it again!

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

Pirates

Spamalot
Spamalot

Eh, could see play in aggro.
Otherwise it seems pretty garbage.
Plus 3pp 2/1 storm is okay, honestly it's not that hot. 2atk storm is always good for 3pp, but dying to 1drops and tokens is bad.

Enhance effect is 8pp, and honestly that's not worth the cost, as 8pp is the wincon turn.

cum2soon
cum2soon

If you can't play Bannermeme decks you should look for another game

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

losers mindset

Thanks for playing.

Supergrass
Supergrass

Avant Blader lmao

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

gitgud
at "no skill the class"

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

-1 Blood Pact
-1 Alucard

+2 Wardrobe Raider

It's pretty underrated if you ask me.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

Are you okay?
Do you need to lie down?

Because you seem to be spouting gibberish.
That is a sign that you may be suffering a stroke.

idontknow
idontknow

he will become a searchable card in a deck that doesn't use 2 drop followers when RoB comes.

I'm worried

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

implying
Erika's the one that's done actual eroge.

WebTool
WebTool

Sword is banner or wallet deck, pretty much. Not much in between.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

full version of that image has Luna with giant tits while Arisa is still flat

Why do so many artists do this? Is there some kind of Japanese in-joke about Luna being oppai loli?

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

My bad, I forgot the required cute anime girl image
Can I get it now please?

King_Martha
King_Martha

Sword only has to play fundamental Shadowverse, there's really nothing you need to learn about "sword" to play it well past mulligans.

If you're losing a lot then you should worry about learning other decks so that you understand the match ups, even in that case you don't need to care about them nearly as much as Blood or Shadow do.

Firespawn
Firespawn

Link?

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

3rd elanafag I've faced in a row disconnected on me
What the hell is their problem?

MPmaster
MPmaster

Here's a list. Works well in A Rank. Got upwards of 6-7 winstreak with this.

Bidwell
Bidwell

Maid keep fishing her
Lose streak broke at last

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

youtube.com/watch?v=f72zxEe7vSM&list=PLSuRQBWZPmDoC1ukMGxn3HyhABEkpz6Lj&index=20

dubfags will never get to experience this

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

Want to play more midrange decks
Don't want to craft anything because the buyable decks will allow me to save a lot of vials
Only have Face Dragon, Storm Haven, and Elana/Seraph decks (which I hate)

How do I have fun like this? Do I make a Discard Dragon deck?

askme
askme

Isn't Olivia kind of unnecessary for a deck like this?

I'm curious about Bloodfed Flowerbed too but I really don't know shit about Blood.

Bidwell
Bidwell

stop using Avant Blader, just use conscription at least, just stop using her.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

0-4 i will eat pizza
5-9 i will buy some packs

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

It's probably the fact that her dress is so conservative it could be hiding anything. Also, fanartists play off each other, if a lot of the early art of a character is a certain way it tends to snowball.

Shadowverse Time 3

youtube.com/watch?v=go1ZqIibQCY&t=720s

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

Keep bullying Vampy's followers
Lose

Every time kek

DeathDog
DeathDog

Holy shit lads I fucking did it

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

thinking Avant Blader is bad
I love this meme.

Spamalot
Spamalot

EAT THE PIZZA

happy_sad
happy_sad

Thanks skellybro

Evilember
Evilember

Still using Avant
Enjoy your bricks user
Mentor's teachings is better

SniperWish
SniperWish

Never got the point of control sword, just play Elana if you want to cuck aggro, that way you have tons of healing against burn from Face Dragon and Aggro Blood.

StonedTime
StonedTime

aggro deck doesn't brick and wins
shitter feels a sense of accomplishment

every time

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

They are rage, brutal, without mercy. But you, you will be worse. Rip and tear until it is done.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Why don't we ever make fun of Zirnitra?

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

I like her for late game, she sometimes wins me the game. You can tech her out and 1 Vampiric Kiss for 2 Alucards. Or tech her out for a 3rd Rev. It's up to you really. That list got me some winstreaks though.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

Okay first I'd say 3x wraith or none, fact is that 2x feels like you're half-assing it. You're gonna have a 50% less chance of having one turn 1 where they're great for board and less chance of having them turn 6+ for Mary Combos.
T
I'd say cut Night Horde down by 1, it's a good card, but running 3x feels like overkill. 2x is enough that you can reliably draw it when you need it, but not that it clutters your draws.

Yes you should get another Queen Vampire, she is amazing and just makes bats so much better. Those 1/1 wards are so versatile.

I'd cut an alucard, he's great but 3x feels a bit much as he isn't very spammable.

I'd honestly say add another Temptress Vampire. She wins you so many control matchups. She, combined with Revelation and Mary, allow you to actually control the game against any non-dshift control deck. She singlehandedly wins many elana fights. Take out a fatty, heal, and get a 5/5 on the board, or unavoidable 5dmg to face. She's great as a finisher or at grinding your opponent down.

I have no idea how you can think she's too slow.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

has no space in midrange because aurelia is fucking broken

has no space in banner because aggro deck

lmao at you

FastChef
FastChef

There's no one else I rather lose to
Except for literally everyone else.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Fair enough, you make some pretty good points. I still don't personally think the average result of your list will beat the best result of mine, but you have a very strong point in that the deck's going to need to be playtested in the new meta before such things can be so clearly defined. Maybe having more followers will be necessary due to how many will be drawn out of the deck before Nep hits, or maybe certain matchups will need things like Balor to be winnable.

I see Nep as much more of a wincon I suppose, like Seraph in a pure Seraph Haven list; a 5/5, an undying 5/5, a heal, 1-2 removals, maybe a 4/4, and maybe a draw seems like it'll be enough to close a game, since most of these new AoEs stop at 3 damage, which won't ever fully clear the presence Nep establishes. But again, I could end up being wrong here, in which case you'd be right and Nep would just be helping you establish dominance in the late-game without actually being a wincon herself.

Long story short, I agree with ya. We won't know for sure until we get our hands on the cards ourselves, so all we can do here is speculate. Still, speculating is fun_, so thanks for providing a perspective I didn't consider before.

Bidwell
Bidwell

Everytime I see someone using Elana Prayer in early game I just quit.

Good to hear it got nerfed to 7 points.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

Because she's a fine card in power level that just has no place in the post-DE meta. If something costs that much PP it has to have an much bigger immediate impact.

The game has gotten way too fast, we really need more disruption. Still an advocate for hand disruption.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

I just crafted 3 of him for d-shift and he is disgustingly effective
2 drop that can be played on curve, or can be used like a cheaper dragon warrior that can hit face and spellboost your hand

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Erika making pig noises in the background
Wew lad

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

lmao at this meme

Spamalot
Spamalot

thinks you play avant on curve

why is this board filled with shitters?

happy_sad
happy_sad

Removed Avant and replaced with Conscription
2 Maids fished it twice instead of the Banner again

likme
likme

aurelia is fucking broken
How many more spicy memes you got for me?

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

nerfed to 7 points
source? I haven't actually seen any balance changes done yet.

Skullbone
Skullbone

Good to hear it got nerfed to 7 points.
LOL
it did not

Evilember
Evilember

still memeing about Elana nerfs

It's not happening you aggro cuck, besides Elana is far down the list of shit that needs to be nerfed, if you want to hurt Haven then do something about Beastcall Aria first.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

He's a whiny crybaby who is also a thirsty nerd. youtube.com/watch?v=Al4E5A3MITU He played tinder on stream, I don't think he got any bitches.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

change name to 計画通り for the memes
immediately start misplaying every game

fugg

Lunatick
Lunatick

You're welcome user. Thank you as well for showing your perspective. :D

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Pussy

Playboyize
Playboyize

COME ON SHOW ME THE OTHER PREBUILTS SO I KNOW WHAT I SHOULD VIAL FOR.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

I don't even need Elana you sucker

Skullbone
Skullbone

Drawing shitty 2 drops
Good

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

Not him but aurelia is broken.
Like most of the other shit sword and forest has.
She's got fucking vanilla stats if dropped versus an empty board.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

Why does Charon look like Forte doing Christmas cosplay?

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

keep the fairies from elven mage in my hand to altered fate next turn
urias thinks I have Tia so he concedes

wwwwwwwwwwwwwww

5mileys
5mileys

How's it do against Elana and Tempo Forest?

I run a more aggressive list where I drop some of the removal for more draw and bat synergy, alucard, and mini soul devil, and I've found that a third revelation is really, really important, as against those two decks you're going to need to draw 1-2 revelations or you will die.

massdebater
massdebater

Great advice, thank you

hairygrape
hairygrape

Goblinmount Demon is better than Aurelia half of the time.

Methnerd
Methnerd

sword
having shitty cards

just stop posting

Flameblow
Flameblow

DoD :^)

StonedTime
StonedTime

altering 0 cost fairies instead of regurgitating them with AE and altering those

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

you share a board with subhuman trash who think like this

farquit
farquit

If you have no board maybe
She has the same stats as him if the enemy has 2 followers with no downside. And if there are three she's broken.

w8t4u
w8t4u

Started last week. Looking to improve my deck. Should I buy packs or wait for the new set? The 7's are Cursed Soldiers

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

You do have a point with treating her as a wincon though.
Most of the crafts have or are getting a card that will enable a turn 9 kill, so nep really does need you to get that as well, if you're gonna play her.

Otherwise you're risking dying to a seraph,wolf,dragoon,marycombo, what have you.

Flameblow
Flameblow

Wait, the expansion is only 10 days away.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Aggro Blood gets shit on by straight Elana lists, that's just the nature of the game unfortunately. If it's a Seraph hybrid list then it's a different story since their draws will be much less consistent.

Good matchup against tempo forest, unless they get the turbo Ancient Elf opener you usually win.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

Remove heals.

happy_sad
happy_sad

unless you play tsubaki, you will be aways drawing trash like vanguard and veteran lancer

that is why maid leader is so good, because she draws your powerhouses (aurelia-otomeme-sage)

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

-1 Keen Enchantment, +1 Soul Conversion

Looks fine, just wait for now.

Methnerd
Methnerd

Not that user, but GBD always has +1 defence over Aurelia.

Snarelure
Snarelure

Replacing Avant already had some effects, now the Maid takes out the Banner and storm followers can actually go for Lethal

whereismyname
whereismyname

Go back to Facestone.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

remove direct face damage from hand and we have a deal

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

Ok, ok.
Remove Haven.

Methshot
Methshot

ooga booga me hit face, face no die
ezplain, cigaems?

SniperGod
SniperGod

Are you retarded? You can fill out your curve with 2 and 3 drops.

eGremlin
eGremlin

AVANT FAGS BTFO

Supergrass
Supergrass

Need a concede please

17209

cum2soon
cum2soon

implying hearthstone isn't filled with heals and decks that aim for 20 minute games and fatigue

If anything Shadowverse is the Face game.

likme
likme

tfw got memed on by a snowman deck

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

still no story mode continuation
Come on Cygames, it's been half a year already. Even Delight Works didn't drop the ball this hard.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Aggro? I'm talking about a more aggressive control blood, you sacrifice a lot of your kisses and drains for more pressure, actually performs great against Elana but gets its teeth kicked in by tempo elf due to not being able to heal out of roach-zone as effectively.

Illusionz
Illusionz

WOW
HOW SKILLED YOU ARE

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

Yes and she has one more attack versus a board of 2.
And it's retarded to compare the two anyways.
If you want to compare her to something you should try comparing her to Angelic Sword Maiden.

likme
likme

I know this may sound weird to you but sometimes you might even go through entire games without drawing AE once

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

There is a reason why a majority here say to take out Avant. It's pros get outweighed by it's cons which is deck consistency. Now, you understand why you should tell Avantfags to btfo.

SniperGod
SniperGod

your fault for letting it live

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

filling the curve with shitty cards
instead of playing good cards
huh?

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

you have no draw without avant

Spamalot
Spamalot

In Magic, aggro beats control beats combo beats aggro
In Shadowverse, aggro beats combo beats control beats aggro
How did this happen.

askme
askme

Elf complaining about anything

iluvmen
iluvmen

PtP elf complaining

Shuffle your hand some more you cuck.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

bullshit, forest starts the game with a 1-4 curve into whatever depending on you being tempo or ptp

WebTool
WebTool

My hand was shit
im trying to play ptp, but RNG says no

Ptp on my first 3 cards
redraw ptp

WHY

whereismyname
whereismyname

combo(dshit) is a subtype of control

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

2/2 ward for 2 and 2/2 storm for 3 is shitty

Why do I have to share the board with idiots like you?

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

spend an evolution point on floral fencer
she tells me to stop staring and she has 2 boyfriends

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

?

farquit
farquit

points wasted not going for face are essentially extra heals for Eris

It's why Curate is fucking broken

it's why Haven is fucking broken

healing should come at a cost not buff you as well

takes2long
takes2long

Actually in shadowverse control decks with combo finishers beat everything.

askme
askme

You have a 40-50% of bricking your maid pulls with Avant.

Avant gives you stamina, but that ain't gonna matter if you don't have the commander synergy to make your followers threatening like they're supposed to be.

likme
likme

Yeah but still Banner is a terrible deck in my opinion like all the cheap aggro decks
Fuck Aggro decks

Techpill
Techpill

kys, if you want to pull more cards you use conscription. We're talking about banner FYI, the deck with almost always perfect curve

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

mongoloids itt think cycle = draw

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

In magic, the attacker is at the mercy of the defender. In Shadowverse it's the opposite.

This fucking mad about a tier 2 deck
Get fucked

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

Because you have no way to control your opponents spells or hand and interrupt their combos so controlling the state of the board is literally the only thing you can do in games like these.

Either way, pretty much all the strong combo decks are some variation of control.

Lunatick
Lunatick

animated vampy
I'm jealous!

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

What's the first deck you're playing after RoB comes out?

I think I might be more interested in seeing how I can improve my existing decks than crafting anything significantly new. Might just drop a few cards into Bats and prey on inconsistent brews while people're still trying to figure out what the fuck they're doing.

SniperWish
SniperWish

aggro rune

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

Banner Meme still, because I have no dust.

Firespawn
Firespawn

I'm going to work on my shadow+rune stuff.

Play with storm haven in the laddering until my other decks are ready because haven didn't get anything that was an autoinclude or die. (Nice cards, maybe, but nothing like Garuda)

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

Idol haven or PtP Elana haven, depending on my gets

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

?

DeathDog
DeathDog

going first as Bat Blood versus Control Sword
T1: Nothing
T2: Veteran Lancer
T3: Another Veteran Lancer
T4: White Paladin evolve for 4 extra Shield Guardians
T5: Aurelia max power
T6: Another Aurelia max power
T7: 2 Whole Souled Swings which proc the knights
T8: Alwida's
T9: Odin on my Vampiric Castle
I Barraged and Razory Clawed for lethal past his second Aurelia then I got checking match results. This was in unranked and I'm amazed I won that.

So excited I posted in the wrong thread first.

Inmate
Inmate

Neph Shadow immediately and maybe Control Blood.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

Minibomb shadow.
Lots of the new cheap DR combined with urd and necroassassin to just take complete board control while having lots of draw and infinite power liches.

Skullbone
Skullbone

Depends on what I pull from the 30~ or so packs I'll open. Other than patching up some of my older decks like Eartmemes and Control Sword, I'll probably aim for Midrange Blood and Tempo Rune the hardest. And Discard Dragon.

Emberfire
Emberfire

Depends on which legendaries I get but I wanna try out Midrange Vampire. Hopefully I get Matriarch.

eGremlin
eGremlin

Aggro Rune
I CAN'T FUCKING WAIT

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

aggro wins because other deck misses one drop
why did you find the need to post this here?
nobody cares

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

"oh boy, I wanna get that alternate art for ancient elf. I guess I'll hold off in crafting my 3rd ae"
gets my 3rd one from the free weekly packs

It's like you don't want my money cygames. How much was the pre-built deck going to cost anyway?

Bidwell
Bidwell

evolve Hell's Unleasher
enemy never trades into it so I get free 3 damage each turn

likme
likme

subscribed

Playboyize
Playboyize

So do I have to run 2x Pascale to make Dirt Rune work? I only have one of her and I'm missing two cards to finish my deck.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

500 crystal for first purchase, 750 for subsequent

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

The Earthrite meme is calling

King_Martha
King_Martha

Control Sword
one drops

Control Sword actually has a favored matchup against aggro bats because of the fuckload of Wards, so that user actually did pretty good.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

500 crystals for the first one in each craft, 750 crystals for additional instances.

It kind of bothers me that the price hikes up after your initial buy.

Emberfire
Emberfire

Will Veight see play in Bat Aggro?

happy_sad
happy_sad

REMOVE HAVEN.

massdebater
massdebater

Next rank in 0
What?

Firespawn
Firespawn

No because then you get clogged up with commanders.

Some people (like me) run Avant Blader but that's only because she can draw you your storms, and even then she loses me some games when she gets pulled by meido instead of Banner

StonedTime
StonedTime

you're gonna do promos, just leave that part and you'll see.

Soft_member
Soft_member

Veight will definitely see play in Bats. He's not strictly better than Killer Devil but he offers so much over her that I can't imagine wanting to run her except after you've maxed out on Veight and still want bats.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

He's basically better than Killer Devil in every way other than not being able to proc Fortress as quickly without evolve, so yes. It's still competing with Lykos and Mini for 3-drops but he's good enough to replace a few copies if not edging them out entirely.

askme
askme

To be honest I think Ancient Alchemist is way more important
than Pascale.

Though they work well together since they are cheap minions with good stats you can summon the same turn you play Pascale.

She's a good card, but the deck works alright with only 1 of her. Sometimes she's really hard to use since she requires an earth rite + a board or other minions on the same turn

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

How much play is Dwarf Alchemist going to see as a a tech card tutor for one-off Earthrite cards in non Earthrite decks (aka Petrification)?

Seems it'd be a much better idea than running anything else like scrap smelter.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

Nobody has a favored matchup versus aggro if they don't brick.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

recently moved into A rank
can't win unranked matches anymore

They're not this retarded, are they?

happy_sad
happy_sad

Wow the rewards from Take Two fucking suck

Emberfire
Emberfire

not wanting fair challenge even in unranked
git gud

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

It's not 500 for the first per craft, it's the first purchase period.

King_Martha
King_Martha

they're going to when you go 0-5 every time fucking shitter

Emberburn
Emberburn

It's still 60% in favor of CSword overall, even though CSword can easily brick with a heavy hand.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

I went 3-2 and got 50 coins and a pack

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

HOLD
THE FUCK
UP
Fanatic Idol's evolve effect is CONSTANT?

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

So considering that this is my current version of the deck. The Lucifer is in as somewhat of an alternate win condition. Please no bully, it is the first the deck I've built myself and I've only been playing for like a week or so ;_;

cum2soon
cum2soon

ehh, it's really good if you go 5/5.
in the end you get more out of it if you go at least 3/5. It's a fun process of buying a pack with the opportunity to get some rupees back by playing the game..

Skullbone
Skullbone

It's gonna be him and mini fighting for the 3 drop slot. That clash means he's especially nasty against a board of 1atk followers.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

Dshift beats every single control deck in the game with ease

Control decks beat every single aggro deck in the game with ease

Midsword triumps over both

shadowbabs will have you believe this rock, paper, shotgun meta is better than hearthstone's

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Fuck, I got the visual bug on my profile.

My Forest wins went from 11 to 13 in one match, but the total ranked wins doesn't count the 13th from Forest.

The achievement also lists Forest wins at 12/20.
This is what I get for bringing Forest to Ranked for my dailies. REMOVE ELF

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

git gud

you mean

git a meta deck for every class

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

Levi is the designated evo target.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

post em

w8t4u
w8t4u

literally what are you talking about user?

Emberburn
Emberburn

Zero Haven.
You're good in my book, bud.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Is the pack guaranteed? If so I'm just going to 5-concede with the tickets I have, I hate arena game modes and 5 matches is way too much for a chance at 50 coins.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Don't forget that Shrine Maiden makes it so Idol can only be damaged by aoe, in a deck that can heal stuff.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

b-but elana heals
and the minions grow
elana is broken, r-right guys?

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

It would be complete garbage otherwise.

happy_sad
happy_sad

it's guaranteed

TechHater
TechHater

Control decks beat every single aggro deck in the game with ease
It's funny you think so.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Trust me on this.
Cut the prices of magics and a single rami-remi (because she needs evolve to be usable) add fate's hand and/or magic missiles. As your draw right now is terrible and that just makes your ability to recover from bricking even worse. Price of Magic is overcosted, even though the feeling of banishing a hell's unleasher is one of the greatest things this world has to offer.

viagrandad
viagrandad

Midsword trumps over Control
when Control Sword and Elana/Seraph are easily its hardest matchups and Control Blood will join these two next expansion

What did he mean by this?

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

tfw orgasm

letting a cursed general on the board into a floral...

no way out of this one Rowen, sorry.

massdebater
massdebater

You get 1 pack from 0 wins.
You don't have to concede, just hit "Quit" to end your current run and claim your rewards.

Firespawn
Firespawn

His evolve effect sucks because his stats are shit. You already have good card draw in d-shift decks that might run 1-ofs and using an evolve on merlin to get those d-shifts or Levi for board swing is way more important than drawing a petrify.

As for as essence enabler. Dwarf is 2 mana 2/2 which d-shift doesn't really care about and 1 mana for the earth essence itself. Meaning 3 mana total versus a 1 mana card that you can bounce and gives yo a ward that soaks some damage.

SniperWish
SniperWish

Thanks

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

being in A
not having meta decks for every class
bruh...

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

kys

Lunatick
Lunatick

Don't do that user.
Give free wins away instead.

Techpill
Techpill

hmpf, ill make it quick cuck

Evilember
Evilember

I don't know which to do first, but I'll be making midrange sword, nep shadow, control blood, and aggro rune.

JunkTop
JunkTop

do ranks reset? kind of fucked myself

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

God no.
Dshift needs its evolves for merlin/levi.
Aggro needs them for pushing face and fighting board.

Dwarf Alch looks great for dirtrune, but he has no place anywhere else. None of his effects are useful for any other deck, nobody worries about tutoring those cards.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

I'm in AA with meta decks for 2 classes

It's been okay.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

Elana seraph/Control sword are hard matchups for midsword
Still favored for midsword

Methnerd
Methnerd

nope
good job rushing your way to meta bracket with only 1 agro deck i presume

Emberfire
Emberfire

So maybe something like
-2 Price of Magic +2 Magic Missile
-1 Remi-Rami +1 Fate's Hand

Flameblow
Flameblow

If you actually think Mid Sword beats Control Sword you're a retard that needs to stop talking about meta.

TechHater
TechHater

How much gold do I want for the 29th?

FastChef
FastChef

Ranks are resetting next expansion actually

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

I told swordcraft to clear my board

She actually tried, the absolute madman!

Methshot
Methshot

wait what? source? i dont want to climb to masters again

Skullbone
Skullbone

b-but I don't want to replace my daughter

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

Like, Beginner reset?

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

Just sandbag back to C

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

I could have finished out MidSword and Gorilla moded my way up the ladder
Instead I had the sudden, intense urge to start losing the fuck out of games
So I made Face Dragon

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

Even if it's sub-optimal, I'll probably still include my single animated copy of her in my deck no matter what.

TechHater
TechHater

I don't know how much happy was this Rune DShift for having to deal with 3 Mainyus

FastChef
FastChef

ehh is it though? or are you just spouting bullshit

approximately as much as you can save up before then

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

rushing with aggro decks
I sandbagged and still got into Rank A. It's impossible not to be put in Rank A unless all you do is sandbag.

Emberfire
Emberfire

So what's our plan for the prebuilds? Liquefy everything that we have that they have since we're buying them for the alternate art legos anyway?

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

different uses.
I'm gonna be testing out both cards to see which fills the elusive 3 drop slot for my blood decks.

MSD is fantastic as a solo drop because of the pressure she puts, but is also a fantastic combo piece. Combine that with the fact that if she's out on turn 4-5 it's very often that you get not 1, but 2 procs off her, which is huge.

I don't think you'll be cutting her entirely.
And if a good MR blood appears, I wouldn't be surprised if it did something like 2-2 MSD and Veight, as Veight is generally better on curve, while MSD is good on curve but fantastic when combo'd with something like Vania later on.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

i got into A without intentionally losing and still had 5 working decks even with some substitute cards

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Post your best shadow deck, I want to climb with the inferior loli

iluvmen
iluvmen

MSD and Veight can coexist and Lykos is irrelevant outside kamikaze decks.

TreeEater
TreeEater

The original topic of discussion was Aggro Bat, so that kamikaze is relevant. Those two will have no problem finding space with each other in other decks, but the 3 drop slots are at a premium in Aggro.

Spamalot
Spamalot

Why didnt you quit after the first Elana's prayer.

Dont listen to this guy

SniperWish
SniperWish

I do think that the Bats spread is going to be some combination of Veight and MSD, but I'm curious to try running Veight with Killer Devil and putting Castle to 3.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Someone explain this pre-built deck thing to me because I don't get it at all

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

I used to have Skeleton Warrior instead Urd, but it started to feel completely useless since I had a lot of low cost drops already and it ate my shadows. Also, Urd is arguable the best/most versatile follower in the game.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

when you don't even get a chance to attack before they rage quit

Emberfire
Emberfire

How the fuck do all these D-shits get all the perfect cards in their hand every time? This is insane.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

I'm in rank A1 and I don't think i've ever gone 2nd against sword literally ever.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Those sword players must be getting my 2nd turns.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Basically starter decks which only has 2 different leggos, 5 different golds rest is duplicate bronzes/silvers. Purchasable using crystals only.

likme
likme

Literally this, but one standard leggo will have an alternate art you can only get by buying the deck.

Snarelure
Snarelure

just in case i had the opportinity to humiliate an elana user

likme
likme

Kamikaze ain't that relevent, cause the race to 0 isn't really aided by either of those cards. plus it doesn't really have many flex slots

JunkTop
JunkTop

Shadowverse cosplay when?

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

8 cards left in deck
Still haven't drawn any of my 3x PTP

Nice meme, Cygames

Soft_member
Soft_member

URIEL
R
I
E
L

Firespawn
Firespawn

no

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

I don't think Death Breath, Hell unleasher and therefore also Urd, fit in an aggro deck. Should have more small bodies and maybe a demonic strike to finish the job.

JunkTop
JunkTop

This is some sort of cruel joke.

girlDog
girlDog

I look forward to seeing if that will work in tyrant.
Combo that with midnight haunt.

Inmate
Inmate

This kills to otomeme.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

trust me, Shadow is already in a shit position m8. I've tried doing the smaller body thing. There isn't enough steam to the deck to make that work. It may not seem aggro-y, but this is the best right now desu. If you want to use something else though you can try this, it's not nearly as good though. You're gonna want Death's Breath.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Nah, that needs an evolve and it's only 1 mana less than Otomeme herself. This card, on the other hand...

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

Give Acient Elf, RampDragon or some control Blood/Rune cards
I can't feel climbing with what i have constructed now

SniperWish
SniperWish

You need to swap out Skeleton Knight for Tenacious Ghost

Supergrass
Supergrass

that needs an evolve

Playboyize
Playboyize

Unicas
No Playful or Cursed Soldier

You've already got an abundance of 2 drops, Cursed gives you a good way of lethal through wards while Playful gives 2 ghosts which are soul conversion fodder and/or ways to take out multiple weenies or damaged enemies. They're incredibly useful.

Also skeleton knight is awful right now, forest and haven eat him alive.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

user plz don't type about things you have no knowledge of

FastChef
FastChef

When you thought to play Dragoncraft but in truth it's Goblincraft

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Agrro Shadowcraft deck from Tier 2 says otherwise. Isn't that a proof that it works?
Not speaking from experiance though, since I main Control Shadow and stay away from any aggro as much as I can.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

Shit, I read the effect and just automatically assumed it was an evolve skill. My bad, that card is way better than I thought it was

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

Is there going to be new commander replacements when Bahamut releases

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Lucius does, without an evolve he only kills the bodyguards and does 1dmg to otomeme herself.
Need to evolve him and bonk her to get that kill.

To be fair though, Horde won't do any dmg to Otomeme herself.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

Keep in mind that it also hits your dudes tho

whereismyname
whereismyname

ignore this I posted the wrong one. That's a terrible list from a long while ago.

This is the one that you can consider, but the original deck I posted is the best you can get nowadays.

girlDog
girlDog

Skeleton Knight just does not have a good time in this meta.

faeries annihilate it. Banish annihilates it. Elf Child May annihilates it.

It does not pull its weight against forest or haven, the two most common crafts in the meta. This really hurts it.
Tenacious ghost, while not hitting as hard as Skeleknight, is guaranteed to survive the opponent's turn thanks to his ambush. Plus with 3hp he can eat most of of forest's removal no sweat.
Near-guaranteed face is much better than a shot at 1more dmg but most likely just losing mad tempo.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

Nigger Tenacious Ghost is what help you win Haven matchups and shit on Rune even harder. Once he evolves, most commonly played drops also can't trade up against it even after evolving.

TreeEater
TreeEater

Neutralcraft. Then I won't have to worry about dailies ever again.

Soft_member
Soft_member

cheaper banner
What were they thinking

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

Your daughter will grow up to be a succubus slut.

cum2soon
cum2soon

these are good points and make sense to me
DELETE THIS

Emberburn
Emberburn

delet this

Booteefool
Booteefool

Anyone has a Ambush sword deck?

Snarelure
Snarelure

No ambush sword in RoB
Maybe next time.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

have you tried playing good decks instead

likme
likme

try ambush sword
don't draw rogues creed
get completely shit on
Don't do it man, that deck is inconsistent as fuck

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

Commonly played 4 drops that is.

Also why are you running Death's Breath in an aggro deck? You need to work towards putting people in kill range of Phantom Howls, not setting up zombie wards. If you are ever in a situation where Death's Breath is a necessary play then you probably aren't going to win anyway. Shit I don't even like Hell's Unleasher or Cursed Soldier in aggro. I wanted RoB to give Shadow a more aggressive 4 drop and Necroassassin is great but I'm not sure that's what aggro really wants, it feels more like a midrange card.

TreeEater
TreeEater

WHERE ARE THE FUCKING NEW CARDS, CYGAMES?

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

So why do Rune and Dragon get meme archetypes to eat up all their expansion potential while things like Forest and Sword just get cards that make their current top tier decks even stronger?

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

Yes, StormHaven FaceDragon and a BannerSword

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

cygames is fucking retarded

Nojokur
Nojokur

What do people think about this guy?

I feel like he has the potential to be pretty nice, but I just don't know. The clash means trading into this guy real painful, but at the same time the initial AoE is the most important, and he's demanding an evo point to get it off, and it's only 1.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

Valkyrie doesn't buff followers when it's played, unlike banner.
Also half the reason banner is actually viable is that it's essentially a permanent commander on board, guaranteeing a lot of perks for your officers (also can be drawn with maid leader)

w8t4u
w8t4u

What did Merlin, the top Rune player, mean by these statement?

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

All i want is a Forest Delta Force deck where i can fit in Cynthia and Selwyn kicking intruders asses with their trained Roaches of rape

Evilember
Evilember

Uriel next patch for amulet draw.

Firespawn
Firespawn

There really isn't much variance to how Sword plays and the cards in the expansion seek to enable other Elf decks rather than reinforce current ones.

SniperGod
SniperGod

As sad as it is I'm almost 100% sure that the best ambush sword deck out there is ambush flame and glass.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Uriel next patch for amulet draw.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

Well that's because the results are simple there. The deck runs out of steam with your typical Aggro deck, but the way I designed there is always steam and this game can go against it's bad matchups. The thought process is complex, but this nets the most wins out of any version I've made.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Literally who

whereismyname
whereismyname

Ambush isn't going to work with current game mechanics.

MPmaster
MPmaster

Does he have brain damage?

takes2long
takes2long

There really isn't much variance to how Sword plays
Ambush Sword exists.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

Daria Affinity Rune
a meme archetype

You're completely right about Dragon, but the new Rune archetype is gonna be insanely powerful, mark my words

Emberburn
Emberburn

Forest got Mahes and that's about it. All the other cards are supporting either a control playstyle or an aggro playstyle.

Sword is just blatantly buffing Midrange and Control further though. I thought they'd support Ambushmemes but nope.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

Aggro
Meme archetype
Rune is the only class in the game without an aggressive archetype it's not a surprise that they would try that at some point. They are also getting some earth rune support. They are not going to give more support to Dshift when it's already the most played deck at masters.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

I know who I'd want poking my prostate

girlDog
girlDog

He sounds like a guy who mains DShift and doesn't play anything else besides it. Am I right?

Inmate
Inmate

You're playing midrange, not aggro. Which is fine, but Aggro Shadow goes for the throat to set up a Phantom Howl burst on turn 6.

TreeEater
TreeEater

They are also getting some earth rune support.
Not enough though. Expansion should have been a bit more focused.

Emberfire
Emberfire

Rate my memedeck made with only neutral cards uwu

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

Whoops, got a double post for some reason... Anyway if Rogue's Creed is not out by turn 4 Uriel will fetch it. Still too late to be viable but it's something

Illusionz
Illusionz

Applefags on suicide watch.

viagrandad
viagrandad

swords just lose if they go second they said
you can't beat control sword as bannermeme they said

Inmate
Inmate

fighter

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

Apparently, Yes

Daria

Who?

Techpill
Techpill

There really isn't much variance to how Sword plays

This is why I'm really happy with Castle in the Sky.

It actually means you have to be careful with playing minions once you put it down, because if you mindlessly vomit things then you'll likely end up in a situation where you end your turn and it's at 1-2 countdown, and you've basically screwed yourself.
But if you actually play with it you can do things like otohime with it on 4 and you'll end of with a 4/5 storm, three 2/3 storms, and a 1/2. Which is game winning.

It's also something the opponent can interact with, as they have the choice of letting a board live and risking a boosted castle blast, or wiping the board and not eating the guaranteed face.

Illusionz
Illusionz

They got a great consistency card and another way to get some board presence to set up for Pascale. Even if I also would've wanted more, I'm happy enough with this considering how much of DE was dedicated to making Earth playable period.

Supergrass
Supergrass

Wtf is up with Take Two atm?

Usually win 4-5, now i barely 2-3

Is now the ultra nip take two pro time?

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

Anyone know why they're doing it?
Is it because buying crystals on the iOS version costs more because of Apple's taxes?

Booteefool
Booteefool

I think he's Russia or some shit.

Soft_member
Soft_member

A0
princess in banner

We would like to hear more of your high quality opinions

5mileys
5mileys

post your favorite deck and your bsdm test score

i'll start: tempo forest

Inmate
Inmate

he has 2 avant blazers evolved
Why are you so proud of beating someone that obviously bricked their draws?

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

No wonder he thinks expansion for Rune is shit. They didn't pander to his deck.

Snarelure
Snarelure

I don't know, I always see earth players complain about lack of consistency/not being able to draw specific earth cards, dwarf at least sounds like it helps with that.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

banner and arturian light is consider a commander
rogue creed is not

Explain this bullshit.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

Replace Fighter with Unica

Nojokur
Nojokur

No it doesn't.

It's still going to be a dudes.dec but that does make it a bit more dynamic, I agree.

Banner is the only Swordcraft deck that doesn't care about whether or not it goes first or second. All others lose like 60% of the time going first.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

It hasn't gotten enough support yet to be consistent.
Right now it's at DE Discard Dragon levels of viable.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

Earth's been in a weird spot this expansion where the only thing keeping it out of competitive was consistency anyways. It's seen a lot of majors play in the last few weeks, which is better than most decks can say, so it could definitely go high tier 2 with just the two cards and some general support like Daria.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

s-shadowbabs?

FastChef
FastChef

right

whereismyname
whereismyname

On Page 2 is just DShift Flame and Glass

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

Right

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

Daria
general support
Earthmemes doesn't run enough spellboost to use her.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

No Ambush cards are commanders, whether you look at Ninja "Master", Tsubaki who's the only non-Commander Sword lego, or Shadowed Assassin that literally has the word command in her lore.

Part of their creed is not having commanders at all. It's still silly from a gameplay perspective.

idontknow
idontknow

They got a great consistency card
A single card isn't going to improve consistency by much, even though it's nice addition.
Gimped evolution doesn't help either.
They really should have added an effect mirrored version of it as well, then we could talk about consistency

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

Easiest right ever

Emberfire
Emberfire

Right now it's at DE Discard Dragon levels of viable.
Bull fucking shit. Discard dragon has a literal sub-30% winrate. Earth rune at least is actually playable and only needs some pushes here and there (mostly in the deck's consistency), while disco dragon will need at least an entire expansion dedicated to it.

whereismyname
whereismyname

Why does Daria banish your hand?
Seriously, it's not like Rune PtP is even a tier 3 deck right now. Would it be really that bad to throw them a bone?

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

REMINDER that pre-made decks that can only be purchased with Crystals will officially make Shadowverse P2W when they come out.

REMINDER that pre-made decks that can only be purchased with Crystals will officially make Shadowverse P2W when they come out.

viagrandad
viagrandad

Trail of Light

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

It's not that shit to be compared to d dragon

Methnerd
Methnerd

Earth rune
Daria aggro
???

Evilember
Evilember

Wanting more PtP decks in the game
Fuck that.

Firespawn
Firespawn

implying

You can easily get Daria off by turn 5, and it's possible to get her as early as turn 4 with a good hand. Being able to drop a 5/5 and draw 5 cards, some of which will be free, is a huge power play that early in the game, and you're not sacrificing much by throwing a mix of on-curve followers and spells before her. Both Ogler and Emmylou will be free if they're drawn, same for Fate's Hand, and fuck help your opponent if you get another Daria from the first one, because then you're gonna do the whole thing again on the next turn.

It's insanely good, and more than consistent enough when you factor in how much draw power Rune already has. You could make the argument that it won't be T1, which is fair since we can't gauge that sort of thing until it's released, but to call it Discard Dragon-tier is a fucking insult.

Flameblow
Flameblow

She works my dude, just give it a try.
He also had a Frontguard General and shitload of other wards that I got rid of, even had a Floral Fencer evolved too.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

manage to get 2k gold for the expansion over a week of good take two runs
waste it on Forte and Garuda leaders
buy a shitload of normal packs for no reason and get nothing good from them
Who else /cantmanagehisrupies/ here?

DeathDog
DeathDog

what does that have to do with buffing ptp rune in the expansion?

Lunatick
Lunatick

did average
broke even

where's the issue

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

buying Garuda
but why?

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

Thought you were talking about earth, sorry.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

All i want is a Forest Delta Force deck where i can fit in Cynthia and Selwyn kicking intruders asses with their trained Roaches of rape

Flameblow
Flameblow

Because it's supposed to be hard to get to 30 shadows when you're not the dev's pet class like Elf is. :^)

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

not him but
storm haven is fun
eris is actually slightly sickening to even look at, let alone listen to

B U R D
U
R
D

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

I don't understand what Forte is doing in this webm

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Rune now summons Zombies and a Dragon gold
YOU THINK IT'S A ONE TIME THING AND ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU GOT FAIRY DSHIFT DECKS RUNNING AROUND.

iluvmen
iluvmen

need a quick concede
73452

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

I would buy Garuda leader but I find his awkwardly long blinks unsettling

Techpill
Techpill

Haven ain't free.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

Cygames realized that Dragon and Shadow are dead so they divvied up their corpses to be distributed to the other crafts.

happy_sad
happy_sad

Get a bunch of cancer cards as T2 haven
Go 4-0, nearly 5-0 (came down to 1hp)

Jesus christ, fuck haven so much. Getting tiger + falcon out on turn 3 is absolute cancer.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

You can easily get Daria off by turn 5
Because it's totally easy to draw Daria in your opening mulligan and proceed to play things to spellboost her perfectly on curve, amirite?

You can play Atomeme on turn 2 as well if you get the perfect hand.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

eris is actually slightly sickening to even look at, let alone listen to
I like and use Garuda but this is horseshit and false.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

going up against some haven with garuda lead
oh cool he's running storm haven for sure
it's just another elana healslut cancer
Preposterous

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

I think Aggro Rune is going to be fun. I don't think it's going to be that good because it lacks storm followers and aggro decks in this game get by by being as hard to interact with as possible. Sure Rune will be able to swarm the board really well, but unlike Forest they'll have to spend actual cards to do it and unlike Bannermemes they lack the storm followers to close out the game from topdeck mode and capitalize on the early aggression. This is all to say that I'm really torn on crafting it, because I want to play it for the fun factor, but I'd need to craft Levis ontop of Darias and that might be a bit much for a fun experiment.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

Look at this girl. She hasn't even been released yet and she knows that she's never going to see play.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

thanks random friend

StonedTime
StonedTime

Garuda looks majestic and Eris is just a dumb looking christmas cake with bishop hat. Not like there is anything wrong with it

Lunatick
Lunatick

cartoonish, almost rubbery dress that would be better in literally any colour other than pink
retarded hat that looks pixelated, trash design
in japanese she's a whiny crybaby
in english she's a whiny crybaby with lung cancer whenever she yells "STOP" like a retard when you hit her

Seriously, every leader that tells you to stop hitting them or complains about it (OH COME ON) is so fucking retarded.

hairygrape
hairygrape

You asked why she banishes your hand instead of discarding it. Making her draw 6 or more cards through Trail of Lights would make her too good

Methnerd
Methnerd

Is there any place where I can hear all of the leader emotes and damage sounds?

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

this.
also think of the potential abuse with snowmen spam and altered fate for maxspeed ptp

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

pink
It's fucking lavender. I like her hat.

I can't even comment on the story because I skipped through all of that shit and just collected my rewards before hopping into PvP. No point in caring really.

Inmate
Inmate

turn 1 Pinion
turn 2 Doggo
turn 3 Burdsong
turn 4 Elana
You what

Emberburn
Emberburn

implying DShift doesn't already do this exact thing

Yes, it is fairly easy to get a card you run 3 of in your turn 1 hand if you hard mulligan for it, and it is also fairly easy to get things to boost it when your deck is mostly low-cost spellspam. Will there be times you don't get it in your opening hand? Of course, but that's why you run stupid crap like Insight, Magic Missile, etc. to early cycle into her if you didn't get her to begin with.

but that's not reliable

If that were true then DShift wouldn't function as a deck. It's literally the same opening hand conditions for both decks, and we already know one works, so why wouldn't this one work also?

Firespawn
Firespawn

IS FIGHTING AND DESPAIR ALL YOU KNOW

she literally starts the fight by complaining like the deadbeat divorced hag she is

MPmaster
MPmaster

I guess its forbidden to beat Dshift

askme
askme

Eris hat always looks pixelated to me

Skullbone
Skullbone

Her design is annoying, she is annoying, her meta deck is annoying

She's an ugly cunt

StonedTime
StonedTime

Quickly, post that Isabelle picture. You know the one.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

Childhood is idolizing Vampy
Adulthood is realising that Urias is better.

RavySnake
RavySnake

The one where she's rimming a dude while he titfucks her?

Hag
The woman is mid-20s at the absolute oldest goddamn. Also I don't have much issue with her deck. Or any deck really.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Is it possible to make a deck based entirely around ding dong?

Illusionz
Illusionz

If that were true then DShift wouldn't function as a deck. It's literally the same opening hand conditions for both decks, and we already know one works, so why wouldn't this one work also?
Because the entirety of DShift revolves around drawing DShift and spellboosting it as hard as possible.
In contrast, Daria decks won't run anywhere as much pure spellboost cards like Sorcery Cache and Merlin can't search for her.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

Probably because Rune Aggro will have followers and not just spell cards. So they can't put as many low cost spell cards as DShift can.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Remember when Konami released this and Yugioh became pay to win?

players got 1 blue eyes white dragon with each deck holy shit man

w8t4u
w8t4u

I'm still drawing it.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

Yugioh couldn't "become" p2w because it was always p2w.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

there's been a card game that wasn't?

massdebater
massdebater

tfw getting literally perfect curve against Haven as Shadow with Urd.
step aside bald man, you hold no power here

likme
likme

Hearthstone.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

OHOHOHO in Bannermemes
opponent has 2 evolved Avants
You won because you got insane draws and your opponent bricked like a motherfucker

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

Poker :^)

Snarelure
Snarelure

Vampy play Revelation
YAMEROOOOOOO

RavySnake
RavySnake

Don't forget that most people that call her are into loli. What a coincidence!

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

Marisa

whereismyname
whereismyname

Yugioh is not p2w, it's pay to play.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

So am I

The hag thing is still stupid

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

Yugioh isn't pay to play, it's pay to pay some more in 3 months.

Spamalot
Spamalot

hearthpwn.com/forums/hearthstone-general/general-discussion/28947-group-therapy-need-to-blow-off-steam-mega-salty?page=1428

I shouldn't make fun of them but reading this shit feels so good

Lunatick
Lunatick

Sometimes I wonder if anyone actually likes Hearthstone or if they've been at it so long that they can't stop.

It and League have such self-depreciating communities.

massdebater
massdebater

I haven't opened Hearthstone since installing this game.

three dailies > one daily

RumChicken
RumChicken

I have to reluctantly agree. If they don't make the decks available using Rupies, even at an increased cost, then we are definitely Pay to Win

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

It's the latter, people have already invested so much time and money, and the streamers only get paid to stream HS.

League is shit but at least it takes a modicum of skill unlike literally just praying for the rng to go your way.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

mordecai sprite please

Booteefool
Booteefool

S-sauce?

Inmate
Inmate

see He pulled out every single bullshit he had, put down wards for days, double Avant to keep all his shit going, and a Turn 7 Frontguard General, perhaps the only thing he lacked is a Saber to fuck my shit up but I never played more than 2 followers after turn 5. To top it off I didn't even get a Floral Fencer and was only able to keep up my field presence thanks to Princess.

hairygrape
hairygrape

As someone who used to play League it was the latter for me. Shadowverse has actually been a bit of a salvation for me, helped me forget about League, I enjoy it more, and it's less of a time waster.

Emberburn
Emberburn

If they stop device link feature, that means I cant play both versions (jpn and eng) on 1 acc on ios beacuse they treat as 2 games when I decide to reroll, right?

Firespawn
Firespawn

to be fair league was cool pre-during season 1
before forced meta and banning funpicks

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

Looks like japs complain about Dshift completely killing off late game cards too

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Why whenever i try to climb A with something different than Haven i get Havened so hard i have to go back to it

girlDog
girlDog

You're asking the wrong user, user.
I'm the user you want.

RavySnake
RavySnake

I'm not the guy datamining, I don't have it sadly

Artist is lelsyzerosix, he does CG stuff of other things. The character is from TSF Monogatari.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

I'm climbing it just fine with Shadow Control. Stop being a pussy.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

Dev's pet class
New cards are shit aside from maahes and burd is okayish
Meanwhile sword
Makes you wonder which class is the dev's pet class actually.

Lunatick
Lunatick

thats some badass looking skeleton

happy_sad
happy_sad

user Avant is a huge tempo loss, if he's evolving Avants then he's in a bad state. It's not as if Banner has much of a problem with wards thanks to Ruthless Assassin and being able to vomit shit out with Banner up.

Also Princess bricks your meido draws when you want Banner up, which is all the time.

5mileys
5mileys

They should.

It is the single deck that shafts any reason to actually experiment with decks that win later than turn 8-9.

Even PtP can at least be countered with amulet destruction, and cannot deal more than 18 dmg if all 3 of them go off if you counter them at the turn they are played.

Dshift simply just rapes you face, while literally being uninteractive.

RavySnake
RavySnake

To be fair, they are introducing a lot of board clear in the expansion
t. not a sword player

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Is dshift the NTR class? Are they sadist?

watch your leader get rape and you cant do anything about it

MPmaster
MPmaster

STOP POSTING SMUG ERIKAS

farquit
farquit

Hopefully Earthrite and Tempo Witch become viable and then they decide to nerf DS just to make other control decks playable. I would be fine with PtP being the only hard counter to control decks.

iluvmen
iluvmen

More like the Forest decks are already so insanely good that they don't need anything else.

Cards that need to simply be removed from the game:
Path to Purgatory
Elf Girl Liza
Elana's Prayer
Dimension Shift
There, I've saved Shadowverse

hairygrape
hairygrape

Brand new meme deck
Cards that help control and midrange
Don't even know how im supposed to deckbuild with so many good cards
What a time to be alive

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

Hearthstone
Renolock is the best deck in the game
Hard to play, you have to manage your resources carefully
Punishes mistakes and bad players

Shadowverse
Midsword is the best deck in the game
A fucking monkey can play it, 2 into 3 into 4 into 5 into 6 drop
Steals wins from everyone thanks to overstated crap (and going second)
Misplay? lol sage commander, Punish for overextending?? lol otohime

Explain this, shadowbabs

Illusionz
Illusionz

I wanna ding the dong

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

It's not as if Banner has much of a problem with wards thanks to Ruthless Assassin
Wards wreck banner, it's why it has such a hard time against forest and other sword decks. Ideally you don't want to be forced to use the assassin.

Soft_member
Soft_member

Castle in the Sky doesn't even deserve to be called a meme deck.

iluvmen
iluvmen

bring them down to 1 health
victory is so close
suddenly it's dshift time, all the turns belong to me

Flameblow
Flameblow

Should I add a Tsubaki to my banner deck?

SniperGod
SniperGod

more please

JunkTop
JunkTop

ルナの負けだよ

Methnerd
Methnerd

I would be crying if I was with kripp, too

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

liza

What?

Evilember
Evilember

Why is Rowen bald in these

StonedTime
StonedTime

No

TechHater
TechHater

user Avant is a huge tempo loss, if he's evolving Avants then he's in a bad state
Tempo or not he always has shit to fill his field with.
Also Princess bricks your meido draws when you want Banner up, which is all the time.
It's either that or Avant, or gets fucked if they just put up any wards early and grind you down. I only play 2 of her anyway, and she fills the curve perfectly if you search her with Maid turn 2 and has nothing to play Turn 3. And you don't want to draw into too many Banners anyway.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

because he got his shit fucked up beyond repair

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

dude, let's make a class whose only counter is AoE removal
and then give them a way to completely block AoE removal
Forest has way too many amazing cards, it wouldn't hurt to cull a few.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

If you feel that 3x ruthless assassins is not enough go ahead. Can't target aurelia tho, which is a bummer.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

Dev's pet class
not Swordcraft

cum2soon
cum2soon

You're culling the wrong ones. Ancient elf is a way bigger issue

idontknow
idontknow

Swordsman is better than Tsubaki in most situation.

SniperWish
SniperWish

Implying tempo forest won't be affected by board clears
Even well timed barrage already hurt them badly.

Here's smug Arisa for you.

30 shadows is really hard to achieve unless you luck out with altered fate into altered fate. Try playing ptp forest with 3 altered fate or 3 ptp in your starting hand. Before you remove liza, remove balance evolving old man with 3 dmg spells.

control forest
When will you fucks realize that meme wolf is shit. If your enemy don't have anything on board it's pretty much shit since you cannot sudoku him.

DeathDog
DeathDog

Themis :^)

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

shut up Arisa

Nojokur
Nojokur

How we rebalance DShift without making it utter trash?

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

I CHALLENGE YOU TO A DUEL

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

In the current meta she would only be good against Tia or to help from being overpowered yourself. I would say she' d be good against Dragon but the matchup against Ramp is already so in your favor. DoD is better in most cases. I have one Tsubaki and one DoD in mine though.

King_Martha
King_Martha

Helps against dragon.

Spamalot
Spamalot

swordsman
Needs evolve
tsubaki
Doesn't need evolve

???

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

Implying tempo forest won't be affected by board clears

Booteefool
Booteefool

Limit 1

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Meat toilet

cum2soon
cum2soon

just want to have a win with my ghetto Elf deck for the daily
Haven
Haven
Haven
Haven
Haven
DShift
Haven
I just want to play this fucking game, okay? When will those cancers be purged?

SniperGod
SniperGod

I guess it really was... a Shadowverse
Really now Cygames?

DeathDog
DeathDog

Just remove it, Dshift is utter cancer and wouldn't be missed.

Same with Elana.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

most of the new board clear comes online in 5-6pp
That's when tempo players start to set up the board for wind god and cynthia or turn 5-6 tia.
If liza actually cost zero then you can bitch about forest being op.

Lunatick
Lunatick

Implying tempo forest won't be affected by board clears
That's a good thing. Exterminate all the sub-humans.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

t.Forestfucker

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Nerf it but also add some spells for dealing with aggro

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

t. lesbocraft mainer
Enjoy playing your braindead class.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

MOOOOOMMMMMMY THEY CALLED MY CLASS OP

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

If I am a new player should I be using gold for Classic packs or the DE/RoB packs?

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

set card limit like can only have 1 or 2

WebTool
WebTool

Always Standard pack for new players. Or try your hand in Arena.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

Classic all the way with a few DE along the way
No reason to hoard gold for RoB if you are new

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

We MUST wipe clean the vile stench of the sub-human elves' taint. They must all die. All of them. ALL of them. Let not one stand! Let their lesser blood drain into the dirt and filth of the earth where it belongs!

Flameblow
Flameblow

KYS

SniperGod
SniperGod

Another tempo meme btfo.

losing to go first royal

Embrace ptp. Say no to shit tier deck populated by meme.

Nojokur
Nojokur

don't draw your keycards
die
WoW

Illusionz
Illusionz

renolock best deck in the game
ladder still just shamans and pirates
nothing to explain my dude

Techpill
Techpill

usamin.love/card/otohimes_bodyguard/j_death.wav

Skullbone
Skullbone

only draw fairy nigger generators
lose
LMAO

DeathDog
DeathDog

WATASHI NO MAHOU HIRUSHINASAI

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

you are right but hearthstone looks like a nintendo 64 game and this game has all my favorite animay voice actors in it

viagrandad
viagrandad

Otohime and her sex slaves aren't human either.

Skullbone
Skullbone

He drawn. They all died.
deck doest have draw source
Your deck is shit thats why royal is a real deck because they can consistantly draw tjeir keys via maid.

RumChicken
RumChicken

What? This game is literally using like N64 graphics for the board.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

opponent conceded before I could show off my second olivia in t2
pls

I wanted to make you feel less bad about losing.

Firespawn
Firespawn

Are you faggots literally dissing the N64?

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

opponent has all the luck in the world
i don't
How is that gonna make me feel less bad about losing?

viagrandad
viagrandad

The meme Tempo Forest is shit is back
Why is still tier 1 in literally all tier lists then?

Booteefool
Booteefool

it was just replaced by a slightly altered build and people stopped playing the old one so now everyone calls it bad
honestly the people who think they know anything about the meta are all fucking idiots

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

Because /swordversegeneral/ are butthurt when a tempo/aggro forest roached them to death.

DeathDog
DeathDog

I'm personally just finding it hilarious after a week of retards saying PtP Forest is shit.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

Is there a reason why I can't craft dragon warrior? I've looked through all the dragoncraft cards, and tried searching the card list, but he isn't appearing.

likme
likme

tales from D2

Playboyize
Playboyize

he's a basic card you get from doing the dragon story mode

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

implying D2 shitters can afford to craft tempo forest
Spotted the beginner shitters

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

New famitsu comes out on 22nd and it will have all the cards.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

Which girl gonna be the OP in next thread????

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Ding Dong

cum2soon
cum2soon

This meme needs to stop.

SniperGod
SniperGod

So to the dshift players out there when do you guys get your Lethals

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

I guess I should probably get to those then. Thanks

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

AA1
good

askme
askme

New thread
veekyforums.com/thread/163247268/video-games
veekyforums.com/thread/163247268/video-games
veekyforums.com/thread/163247268/video-games
veekyforums.com/thread/163247268/video-games

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

me

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

According to that site ptp is shit. Rank 1 master uses ptp. Most forest are ptp. I believe my eyes rather than meme.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

disconnect?

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

A 14 mana ghetto polyhonic roar that requires at least 2-3 turns setup?

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