I've got an idea. Majority of our workforce is centered in useless services (don't create wealth) while only a fraction are in industry and farming (creates wealth), which makes sense considering automatization.
So is unemployment a big issue? Why don't just work in factories/fields in shifts (eg. Some people work for one month and then another shift is taking their place) so everyone could benefit from automatization by working less and receiving more. Instead of forcing people to take useless job or die from starvation.
Please make good arguments instead of >fuck u commie muh freedom and hamburgers
Please
James Cox
Give some examples of what you think a "useless job" is
Isaiah Perez
Restaurants, tourism etc.
Matthew Martinez
Your premise that all those jobs are useless is retarded, to start
Angel Hughes
see Those fill a demand. Name a job that doesnt.
Carter Roberts
But they don't create anything! They create nothing, the chair that you are sitting on right now, the bed that you sleep in, or even the computer that you use write here was created in factory.
Ethan Miller
>All services are useless
Youre literally retarded OP
Benjamin Jackson
People pay for services you absolute retard. This isn't the industrial revolution
Joshua Nguyen
>the chair that you are sitting on right now, the bed that you sleep in, or even the computer that you use write here was created in factory. All of those things will be gone and forgotten in 20 years. So they're nothing also.
They're a passing experience. Just like eating at a restaurant or touring the Louvre.
Wyatt Rodriguez
But what about ending a rat race? What about freedom?
Kevin Martin
OP confirmed shitposting troll
Still retarded, but for different reasons
Caleb Smith
You think those sectors don't create wealth?
They don't create *goods* but goods =/= wealth and that was true even when that retarded tag the communist manifesto was being drunkenly scrawled.
Go on, name another "useless job". I could do with a laugh.
Connor Torres
> Services don't create wealth > 40% of company profits in US come from Financial Services
Caleb Powell
So do you think teachers, doctors, and soldiers all do meaningless jobs and they shouldn't be paid?
You commies are so hung up on tangible goods that its almost endearing.
William Campbell
Rag*
Jonathan Russell
Don't forget the unsung heroes of the service industry, America's hard working hookers.
If you don't consider them providing value then you, sir, are objectively wrong.
Grayson Smith
This was actually an idea of some early communist writer, to have everyone work in shifts of different jobs so they wouldn't get bored. It's a retarded idea.
Services don't continue to circulate as commodities so they're "unproductive" expenditures (but still necessary to maintain a functioning economy). Most of the global workforce today is not centred in the service sector... you just don't see that most people still work in industry and farming from your vantage point in the first world. The first world mainly realizes the profits by purchasing commodities produced in the second/third world. In the process of doing all this purchasing you end up with a bigger service sector obviously.
Finance doesn't generate "wealth" itself... it ideally arranges and rearranges capital in a fashion to theoretically put capital at work making things we actually desire and takes some income for doing this service for society
>the US has wealth and has a big financial sector >therefore a big financial sector makes more wealth That's just tautological thinking... a big financial sector could just be a largly unnecessary conventionalized overhead expense for conducting most business in America sucking talent away from other sectors
Sebastian Barnes
>Any good or service that provides happiness or is otherwise simply desirable is "useless" and thus does not count as "wealth" Not even Karl Marx as this retarded. Fuck off.
