So what college degree is actually worth it?

Should I major in Business Administration, Computer and Information Systems, or become an Electrician?

Personally I'd forget business unless it's a top school or you're doing accounting.

I'd aim for tech because it has a higher income cap and prestige than electrician but if that fails keep electrician as a backup option.

Persistence is really the deciding factor in getting a degree, intelligence not so much

Depends

Law =/= legal practice

You could also work in government positions or internally at businesses in an advisory position. All depending on the field of law. I'm soon graduating in competition/state aid/procurement law which gives loads of options

Here is the real answer:

No matter what you major in, you MUST do well in it, and you MUST have experience in the industry by means of internships, etc, and also connections help a lot. You can study what you love, but you need to be committed and at the top of your field to be able to find a job.

If you just go to class and then leave, or don't join any kind of club or extracurricular activity, and you don't try to get to know your teachers, then you will have a much harder time finding a job.

How is economics?

This. A finance or business degree is useless if you dont have the social or leadership skills.

It really depends on the person. A police officer or former military may find a wildlife degree or something useful to become a ranger. A finance degree would be useless to a person without the social and leadership skills to succeed in that career. You can't just look at the pay and demand.

Computer Engineer here.
You are absolutely clueless.

Carpentry.

>do a god-tier degree
>industry dies a few months before i graduate

been looking for a job since :^)

any engineer bros here?

Comp sci needs to be moved to suicide tier

I've heard the local college only teaches people php/js for computer science

Granted it could land you a web dev job, but unless you go into EE or SE its basically worthless

Medicine
Statistics/Actuarial
Computer Science
Business
Law, if you actually make it worthy
Mechanical Engineering
Industrial and Systems Engineering
Pharmacology
IT

That's it. Liberal arts only if you are on a Ivy League. Other STEM babbies can fuck off

Most schools teach you Java because its the most employable.

Law school in tacoland is God tier and not even as hard as it is in America

And about 80% of Law grads earn more than STEM aspies

Only if its old corporate work

Java is becomming more useless each year

But that's besides the point

Js(javascript) is in No way shape or form java

Local college only teaches real languages like cpp or java in software engineering and shit.

Comp sci is about to become the next liberal arts degree.

The true memes for a brighter tomorrow are electrical engineer or anything with the word "engineering" and not "science".

WTF is "Mech. Engy"?

I originally assumed it to mean mechanical engineering... except that "Mech. engineer" is listed separately. I suppose "Engy" could mean "energy", though I've not heard of Mechanical Energy degrees. But the fact that you've also included "Civil Engy" makes that more unlikely.

I'm currently in 1st semester of comp sci major

I realized that I came to uni with so many credits from APs that it would be easy to get double major or minor.

How good would a Business degree go with a Comp Sci major. Currently thinking of doing Finance or Operations Management & Business Analytics. My school has really good comp sci and business programs

>Medicine
Not worth it anymore. General physicians, pediatricians, etc. are being replaced by nurse practitioners. Not worth the money hoping you're one of the few that actually get into a surgeon or radiologist program just to end up making $180K as a normal doctor and likely getting replaced by a $90K FNP.

>Statistics/Actuarial
Not everybody is good at math. I have no idea how one can be bad at math, but that's just reality.

>Computer Science
If you're autistic enough to actually get this degree, then you likely don't have the social skills to get a good job.

>Business
Again, completely useless if you don't have social and leadership skills. Sure you can learn them, but you still won't beat the thousands of natural leaders that are applying for the same jobs.

>Law, if you actually make it worthy
It's saturated. Only really worth it if you have connections and know you'll have a position after you graduate.

>Mechanical Engineering
>Industrial and Systems Engineering
Again, it takes a very specific person to make these type of degrees worthwhile. Just because Glassdoor says it pays this and Indeed says it has this many jobs doesn't mean shit when picking a degree.

>Pharmacology
Requires somebody highly skilled in math and science. It also requires social skills and a business minded person. It's not just a get good grades easy job anywhere like accounting or nursing.

>IT
Probably the safest best for most autists on here.

What industry? I was thinking about aerospace.

Just pass the egoCOMPOSS test

You want to know the majors that are useful for business? Simple.

Finance
Accounting
Mathematics
Economics

These are the four majors you have to choose from if you want to work in something like Asset Management, Investment Banking, Commercial Banking, Corporate Finance, or Sales and Trading.

If you want to be a successful in business/finance then make sure you get a FAME degree.

Business Administration, Marketing, International Business, etc are all shit-tier meme degrees. Fuck that garbage.

I mean, i was talking from a latam perspective but you're right that if you're autistic forget about getting a job outside of IT or software engineering. And that's the main reason why most people here, and in the outside world, are unemployed.

Just get a masters in Mathematical Finance if you want to make big bucks.
I did. I'm making big bucks.

So according to Veeky Forums getting a degree in business is worthless even though I plan on starting a business in 10 years?

>aerospace engineer
>unbelievable tier

maybe unbelievably unemployable tier

my roommate studied it and is stuck in some company with 0 possibilty to advance because its all nepotism. you are so insanely specialised in that field thats its almost impossible to find work somewhere else.

Seriously good luck getting a satisfying high paying job with that

I assumed it was a typo/double up...

>accounting
the STEM of business

its only worth it if you go to Sloan or Wharton

What about supply chain management? From what I've read it's supposed to be in demand now.

I feel like it will be easily automated. Every major i think of i seem to find a flaw in it. Whether its CS, Engy, IT, or accouting

>math in god tier

There's an old joke about math degrees and pizzas that I can't be assed to type out.

>I have no idea how one can be bad at math, but that's just reality.
I don't get it either. It's just a matter of looking at it until you understand it.

>he took Calc 1 and got a B-
>suddenly thinks all math is easy

>>Mechanical Engineering
>>Industrial and Systems Engineering
These are the subjects that I find the most interesting of all. I don't care about salary as long as my projects will be interesting.
What's MF like? What's your work like?

It must be so thrilling to work everyday and represent Cartel people and not know if you will be dead the next day, I mean that unsarcastically. Just getting up, getting your client off, you get a gift of two prime hookers and some blow, you wake up and do it again...shit sounds cash, like a real life action movie.

Overall, I cannot disagree with this post, are you a HR Manager, because its pretty on point.

>Medicine
Well, people are going to do it regardless of what everyone says. Everyone says its too expensive for the life you get and takes too long but some people need to get that power trip of being the man everyone needs to kiss his/her ass, no nurse/PA is going to give me an attitude etc. It should be noted that both Physician Assistant and NP are becoming the New Med School and standards are skyrocketing. 3.6GPA w/ a mess of extra curics is going to be a minimum soon.

>Stats
I think anyone can be good at math but it just is unavoidable, they had a bad culture that hated math, their moms or dads were like "oh shit, I hate that subject, good luck" or they just got early D's in it then got discouraged.

>1 year Secondary Education degree a shit
yeah, because going to school for 1 year and being guaranteed an entry $45k job is so shit

I always lose track of what the fuck I'm doing halfway through a calculation.

Also, it there's about a billion formulae that are to be memorized, and I don't know how you can remember the shit.

I finally figured out what I want to go to college for: political science.

Why does everyone say it is bad? I want to help people. In government.

you will learn something someone else picks up by the wayside, except you pay for it while they're paying for a useful education, and then expect to be remunerated for your sagacious insights

Look for interships/scholarships from the county your school is located. if you do political sci then you shouldn't be paying for it completely

>What's MF like? What's your work like?
Went to London Imperial, the Masters wasn't particularly difficult math wise as long as you put in the hours. Kind of like undergrad, just that the ridiculous debt was constantly in the back of my mind.
I come from a eastern european country, so if I couldn't get a job after the masters, the debt I took on to get the degree would probably eat me alive. Little did I know that the uni did everything in their power to get me all the possible opportunities to get a job. And a good job I got. Not a top firm, but still pretty damn good.
I'm a bit paranoid so I'll refrain from naming too many specifics.

Job itself, is quite fun. Never a quiet moment, always on your toes, keep solving problems, and I'm really humbled by all the intelligent people around me. You always have to be ahead of the competition. You have to live and breathe the job. If you don't, you risk falling behind and that's I believe where some people don't understand.

I love my job. If you don't love this, no matter how much you love money, you won't last long.

How about just get a normal job and stop being a greedy fuck, I'm 29 and work at a factory for 12 dollars an hour and I do just fine and I don't even have a college degree or anything

Stay mad school nerds I didn't even need school to live a decent life

45k a year is too much unless you're literally defending the country, 45k is a lot of money for 1 year

How do you get into the fields you listed with a math degree?
Thinking of doing this exact thing (mathematical finance). How is it? What exactly is your job like?

I'm doing a bachelor of arts degree in philosophy and then law school (JD).

Math is for straight up nerds bud, seriously get into roofing or brick laying and you'll actually get laid and be respected by men

>How do you get into the fields you listed with a math degree?
With a masters and some Finance knowledge how do you not?

>Take that 60K you'd spend on university
>Spend it on various startups
>Even if you lose all of it you gain valuable experience
>???
>Profit

I'm like alright with computers and know some programming, but I'm more passionate about anything else?... I think law is more interesting.

>12 dollars an hour.
>Decent life.
Kek.

Nigga, you make around 20k a year. 20 mutha fucking K per year. You can't even afford anything outside the bare minimum for survival. You think your "comfortable" shit life is going to last forever? You are ensuring that by retirement age you will still be an indentured servant because you never ever saved for retirement. You're sealing the deal on the next injury/illness or loss of job will put your sorry ass on the street. And the worst part about this is you can get double the income without even getting a degree by getting certified in something else. How does it feel to be a poorfag and a pleb rolled up into one?

Has any user ever been so utterly and totally BTFO as this one post in the history of Veeky Forums?

I love STEM and finance, they both really intrigue and fascinate me.

I think STEM fascinates me more, but finance can be more rewarding. I think I might have to go for STEM, and hope that one of my many ideas can be brought to life with my newfound knowledge. And I think the way to finance from STEM is easier than the other way around, were I to be wrong.

>STEM
I'll tell you right now that STEM is quickly becoming a meme. Make sure that if you're going into that that you go in understanding you'll need to be the top 20% of your class if you want a chance of getting a dream job outta of uni.

Oh, and make sure you're in the top 50% if you don't want to end up flipping burgers.

Stop the memes plz, I'm doing a engineering bachelor where over the last years everyone who got his degree got multiple job offers.
I'm sure there are other STEM degrees that don't have a lot of job security.
But overall job demand is rising in the tech sector.

I'm in physics but I'm considering switching to applied math (specifically, statistics) and throw a bunch of software engineering & finance classes in there as well because I'll have quite a few open course slots due to overlap between applied math courses and physics courses.

Thoughts?

is computer engineering good? Im studying it now.

If you don't want to work in science or physics etc. then applied math would probably be better for you but they're both solid choices.

well desu I would love to work in science/physics but I've gotten the impression that the opportunities for getting into proper research are pretty slim.

It's just that applied math + SW eng + finance seems like a very comfy, safe and solid combo but I would kinda feel like I "gave up" though if I don't continue on with physics (applied physics down the road) because that's what I'm truly passionate about if you understand what I mean

Hey all.

I'm graduating in May 2017 with a CS degree and I just accepted (yesterday) a full-time Entry-Level Software Developer job that starts in June. Is pic related accurate? I don't have to decide on financial stuff, health insurance, etc. until my first week there, but I really want to understand the basics before I get to that point. Right now I'm just focused on getting out of college, C's get degrees, that kind of thing.

if you're passionate about physics then do it - I don't really know about the job market in that sector but it's a science so you'll probably have a lot of opportunities especially if it's something you're genuinely interested.

lmao 20% is fucking nothing, try doing 50%. If you don't have enough stuff to get by for the first couple months, fill those basic needs and then save/pay off loans with a minimum of 50% of your take-home pay. You're a software dev so I assume you're making 60k+, you will be able to live comfortably doing this.

I'll be making about 55k but I live in the south so cost of living is pretty low.

I'm graduating a semester before my girlfriend who is going into nursing. We both have student loans that we want to pay off w/in 5 years at the most. So our priorities look pretty much like this at this point:

- basic living expenses (apartment, food)
- save for car (maybe buy lightly used from a rental agency - heard this can be a good deal)
- save for house in a while (in a couple of years)
- devote remaining chunk of income into paying down loans
- both get credit cards and pay them off every month to build credit for house, car, big purchases

Eng. here, I've got the same plan. But if possible I also want to focus on the setups that are specialized to run the algos.
So developing/building software and hardware seems really fun to me.

Next year gonna do a finance minor, after that I'm gonna make my decision.
Probably gonna do a EE master after my bachelor.

Short answer: Anything you're really good at (as in; better than 80>% others around you).

Most people would say freelance (2d/3d) animation is a shitty field to choose. Yet I earn a steady 7000-8000 euros a month.

Is a math degree actually worth it? I'm planning on studying that or chemistry, the latter seems much more applicable and flexible. What potential job options do I obtain with a math degree?

union electrician here (second year apprentice). The money in my city is pretty good six figures, health care for me and my family for life, god tier pension and annuity not including the social security. The work is alright it is a lot of industrial construction. However if you are motivated there is no end to side work thus extra money you could make. If you are really a worker you could start a side shop and make bank, again if you are willing to do the work.

Typical sheltered dumbo. Law can get you to be the fucking ceo of a business unit here, not everything is about the cartels (though yes what you said is semi accurate).

What do you mean I shouldn't have to pay completely? Why shouldn't I?

How about a biotech degree?

Degrees that you are obliged to have in order to being a professional in that area

Serious question guys:
In what degree do grades matter most?
Like when you have good grades, you don't need work experience etc. (kinda like the opposite of law or business)

Should I major in accounting or finance if im going to a literally who college?

none. making money off youtube etc is the only way to win. otherwise you are a commuting cuck.

No radiography ? I started on £19 an hour working for an agency.

t. I make $70 a month off youtube

good luck affording 4 personal watercraft like that

none actually.

just wait a few more years and the market will be flooded with engineers

just go to trade school

tfw fucked up shit degrees
started this humanities BA 2 months ago and i want to kill myself already
ive narrowed my options down to:
1) nursing (would become anesthetics nurse)
2) computer science (probably be software/digital innovation MA)
3) optometry (to then just an MA)

what do

how is biomed engy superior to straight up biomed?

I double majored in both of those, and got a job in business intelligence for 40,000 two weeks out of college. Where to go from here though, that is the question.

>IT
>safe for autists
I use to believe this meme too.
Even back end has to put up with talking to people.
I've done reports for Ford, and they change the damn things each week. I've had to explain to them three times that you can't fit 30 columns of vin data onto one sheet.

>tfw too stupid for STEM
>tfw trying to pick a humanities degree that won't leave me in complete poverty

In Chem engineering and it's pretty much a ticket to do whatever I want. There are always postings from investment companies and financial companies in general looking for engineers, as well as management consulting. I'm a stupid cuck and am doing oil&gas for that short sighted super loaded paycheck baybee

Don't even bother doing any hospital or medicine related unless you have at minimum a decent interest in it. It really isn't one of those things that can fuel you by just money alone. Hospital work fucking sucks, all the patients either suck up bitches (muh vaccines), or consider you an idiot because you aren't a doctor.

Hospital spit and shit all over you as employees because there's always a lot of other candidates they can pick from if you complain. Hospitals can fire you basically for calling off a day they don't like. Working in medicine/hospitals is the literal definition of a wage cuck hidden behind "saving lives!" propaganda.

Pursue CS/IT, they were kings 10-20 years ago, they're still kings today in the job market as long as you better than the average American worker in that field.

this is true for low level, low education workers who are easily replaceable, but a highly specialized physician with many fellowships and a lot of experience could be one of very few people qualified to be in his position. They will pay him a lot and he will not be easy to replace.

>There are always postings from investment companies and financial companies in general looking for engineers, as well as management consulting.

This isn't exactly unique to eng. I worked as a management consultant in a major firm for a spell and I have an MA in history.

Dude its too obvious you just want money so you picked that form of nursing for the 150k. Nursing is a bitch, you won't last 4 years to be able to apply for anesthetics PhD so you can do the job. Also don't think you won't see people die and occasionally very rarely even be the cause and people might shit on you because you are the nurse, the doctors will all conspire to bring the malpractice on to the new guy and so they send you to console the family.

You have to pay serious dues to get to that 150k and its even then kind of a rare job.

If you think you can handle it then I wish you the best of luck but it is way harder than it looks.

My vote is for Optometry though. Its easy, no deaths possible, decent 80k salary and can get a nice retail job.

CS is a fucking wage cuck job, get real mate. You have to go to a real place, code your ass off 14 hour days sometimes and live on Red Bull, never see family during crunch times.

Optometry is way easier than CS.