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Wow... that's a cute 1 (one) tum tummy /rlg/-chan! May I pinch it?
Caleb Price
if your fighting, weapon, dodging, armour and stealth skill combined is less than 35 by the time you get your second rune, on any character, you're a bad player and are not allowed in this thread
David Cooper
but the max is 27?
Ayden Rodriguez
Braindead Hill Orc Fighter who started playing 0.19 for the first time, how should I go about spending stats with the new STR and DEX mechanics? Slight lean to STR but some DEX so I don't miss shit all the time? Using long swords, by the way.
Asher Peterson
STR until you're a few points above the ER of the armour you want, then rest in DEX
Evan Barnes
unless you're a transmuter: dex is mostly for EV (this is good on everyone) str is mostly for overcoming armor penalties (this is good if you are wearing heavy armor and don't have enough str yet)
I think Usk-poster did give birth to the revolutionary "tum" technology. He is a pioneer in the field of tumtectonics.
Kevin Morgan
Whatever, man. Whatever. I still hate that in-joke. I generally ignore it in hopes it finally going away, though.
Jaxon Smith
This is not a joke. It is history, user. Culture. Tummies have been woven into the foundations of /rlg/ civilization.
Jace Cruz
>play a vampire enchanter of dithmenos >find a scroll shop with 3 scrolls of acquirement on D9 >die
Noah Edwards
Can you stop shitting up the thread for 93 other people just to spite him then?
I've gotten 7 ?acq in a 5 rune. You'll start caring less about acq the more you play. Play like you don't have awesome gear and you wont make retarded tab mistakes
Gavin Cox
sometimes /rlg/ needs to release its fault frustration
memes are a vital part of the /rlg/ ecosystem
David Rivera
Take it easy
Owen Perry
Either all str if you want to play a tabber or all int if you want to play a hybrid and try casting spells at some point in the future.
Hudson Reyes
If only we had more memes actually relevant to what we discuss.
Isaac Clark
that guy was (and still is) correct
Aaron Jenkins
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Aaron Nelson
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Thomas Jones
>start a hill orc fighter >d1 >level 1 >encounter a kobold with a runed dagger >kobold hits me >you are cast into the abyss!
Well fuck you too game.
Jace Williams
Guys if we start mass-reporting tum-posters, mods might start removing them. It's worth a try. Do your part in ridding /rlg/ of cancer, remember to report all "Tum" shitposting.
Asher Foster
You are the cancer here. Enjoy your ban
Daniel Johnson
no u
Sebastian Davis
>"Vampires are undead opponents who focus on nefarious, backhanded attacks to defeat their enemies. They are uncommonly found in the middle floors of the Dungeon" >"They aren't very difficult, considering where you meet them"
>die to a Vampire that invisibly walked behind me and followed me upstairs >in D:5
*sigh*. A true OOD encounter and bullshit death since he long-ranged confused me, and his "42% Confuse" spell hit me every fucking time. Wasted like 5 curing potions, 5 heal wound potions, a couple of haste potions. I've yet to die to an early Sigmund (even D:2), but this is just bullcrap.
I guess that's what I get for not believing in Based Trog and thinking TSO would be any use...
Gabriel Jones
I'm not going to get banned, I broke no rules. It's only illegal to tell about specific reports, I'm just talking in general. And tum-posting is against the rules. Stay on topic.
Juan Scott
>Kill Mordred, sir gawain, and kharis >Kharis made chaos tiles at some point >Have to stairdance cause of berserker tard strength can't last forever >Finally get the place cleared up >Loot is virtually all gone from monster pickup >Constantly get rooms of shit summoned on me >Tiles wont come into the corridors >Always tele away when I get adjacent >Launchers cap at unskilled and can't use devices >Earthquake would destroy my loot T-Thanks.... ;_;
Luke Campbell
>[Angry zombie berserker moaning intensifies in the distance]
James Long
Qazlal seems interesting god who can make crawl fun
How to fully maximize Qazlal? Clouds won't spawn in a square if >3 adjacent tiles are a wall. This seems to nix kill tunnels.
Dylan Butler
Being a homosexual is against the rules of Veeky Forums. Please go and stay go
Brody Butler
Ahahaha. I'm so happy Jurt gave me a trump club
Joseph Perry
Started playing my first Draconian. Evolved into a Mottled Drac.
The sticky flame breath is pretty awesome so far. Ranged version of a decent spell that also does a small AoE. But I was wondering if I can do anything to increase its power? Does it work off my Fire Magic skill?
Thomas Jones
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Logan Hill
It's been here for like less than a year.
Ryder Carter
Dragon breath attacks increase as you level
Mottled Drac has one of the best breath attacks for sure, it can do a ton of work at times.
Henry Clark
Are there any roguelikes that can be played in a terminal and aren't ruthlessly unfair?
Connor Morales
When it's not trying to be insanely edgy with 'feminine traps', the 'crossdresser' role and 'fart elementals', it's flooding the game with thousands of monsters, or letting you play as dozens of completely broken races and classes most of which probably have never been played by anyone ever? and killing you with completely arbitrary shit like invisible shopkeepers
Caleb Parker
Nethack 4 is genuinely not ruthlessly unfair. Start as a barbarian (poison resistance) and there's nothing particularly unfair at all (stuff like wands of cancellation destroying bags of holding and accidentally walking onto water or lava have all been patched out).
Cameron Scott
Forgot to mention that I know about doomrl and I love it.
I haven't played nethack in maybe 15 years, but back then it most certainly was ruthlessly unfair. I had actually put it in my "FUCK YOU NEVER AGAIN" pile of roguelikes. I guess I can check it out again if someone can confirm I'm not being trolled.
James Jenkins
chaos tiles breed explosively, user
you will never clean that level
Dominic Barnes
nethack is very difficult to beat if you don't use spoilers but is one of the easiest roguelikes for someone who already knows most of the important info
Nolan Sullivan
>Just have to do 1hp to shelob You get to live
Nolan Turner
Again things could be different these days, but that's not a fair description of nethack as I knew it. It used to be full of ~lol so random XD~ shit. "yet another stupid death" was code for "got buttfucked by the rng again".
I used to know a lot of spoilers (even just said fuck it and read a bunch at one point) and it was still unplayably hard.
Oliver Moore
what's the deal with these anyways is it better or worse than reforging? should I dump it on my 8d4 scythe of slicing right now, or save it for a potential diamond edge later? I also have a falcon sword with +1.5 blows but its dice are low enough that it seems not-amazing for non-tonberries
Nathaniel Evans
whoops forgot image
seriously i thought the metal babble would be a lot harder just took a needle, a single ?forestcreation, and 2-3 zaps of _healing
Carson Gonzalez
That explains that. Do I dare to dream? I do about 700 dmg/round
Cameron Perez
did you know trog's hand gives you tons of mr? really wears out your two neurons...
Lincoln Stewart
using randomtele to follow uniques that are running away with teleport feels so good
Brayden Nelson
generally dragon pits are great sources of loot and xp if you dig an anti summoning/los corridor zigzag to pull them into (and have relevant resists)
dig your tunnel and go for it, enjoy agonizing over what loot to take home and what gets left on the floor
Brayden Gonzalez
>troglodites in charge of reading comprehension
Grayson Anderson
Happening confirmed
Thomas Sanders
Usually it sits in my house and I never use it. Dragon gear with a bunch of resists in a slot that does have much competition (like cloak or gloves) is my main use, I guess.
But weapons seem unlikely to be amazing outside the diamond edge / mace of disruption type rare items. I mean, is a scythe of slicing even better than the blades of chaos you can get everywhere off those demons? Not sure which dice-y bits factor into brand multipliers.
>seriously i thought the metal babble would be a lot harder Try the one in the telmora arena if you'd like to see how the babble fight goes if you can't cheese it.
Leo Martin
Is it just me or does Robe of Night seems like a noobtrap for early game non-stabber characters?
Brandon Johnson
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Alexander Reyes
actually i'm not sure that the scythe IS better than a BoC. 8d4 vs 6d5, and it doesn't come with baked-in rChaos
i just don't know whether it's better to use the scroll or to reforge with one of my 75k-ish artifacts
crawl LOS is reciprocal. if you can't see monsters they can't see you. so reducing your sight range is a mostly positive effect unless your primary offense has 8-tile range
Parker Green
tryin' to curse his own damn sword what a fool
Carter Brown
I know that but you also can't see monsters approaching 2 tiles lesser than normal. It's not like they're indifferent to noise. That means for example if you're a caster of any kind in Snake/Swamp/Spider where group mobs frequent, it'll be too late to back off when you thought there was only a couple of freexps to kill regardless of stealh than when you're not wearing it.
Brandon Collins
this sounds like the thing that is only an issue if you play in the SUBOPTIMAL way of actually fighting monsters where you encounter them instead of luring them backwards first
especially in snake where you can mostly just walk away from shit for free
Ryan Young
nice
Josiah Reed
>mfw using Apocalypse for the first time
Hot damn, and I thought Disaster Area was crazy.
Tyler Adams
>not playing with Easy id OR Easy lore on
user. Don't do this to yourself.
Michael Nguyen
Disaster Area is only good because it's spammable. The superior version is Ru's.
Ethan Nelson
>Not building your pokedex Did something weird and accidentally overwrote my talf-titan mauler's work. how's easyid work? I don't want artifacts dropping under me, getting id'd then being lost forever cause shit gets fucked
Sebastian Brown
I was raised to eat every single popcorn the moment I see them
Blake Foster
How good is the ancestor stand god and the dancing god? I'm pretty clueless as to what actually makes things "good" in DCSS, I mostly enjoy things for flavor.
Chase Brown
Hepatitis is a fun and effective god. Usk is a free 5 rune on invo races
If you want a really novel experience, look up the dates and find a version before hep battlemag's cast rates were nerfed. Play a VpEn/AM. Pelt disabled foes into dust with the power of bromance
Adrian White
in pseudoellipapadopoulosochengband, easy ID makes it so that items before level 25 need to be identified (not *identified*) to learn what they do, but they still have tags like "excellent" or "good" no matter what. After level 25, everything that drops is automatically ID'd as if you were carrying a Stone of Lore.
Levi Jenkins
Yuck.
Leo Morgan
Get out, Pence-man.
Noah Flores
this is literally false
allow me to present my argument: 1) OP is always a faggot 2) OP does not always get banned Q.E.D.
Lucas Mitchell
holy this has been my favorite run ever >poison breath attack to confuse mobs into my danger clouds >fighting entire levels at once >my first DISASTER AREA
Mason Sullivan
What wands are any good for a tabataur?
Jaxon Phillips
easy_id * makes pseudo-id instant so you know if an item is 'excellent' immediately instead of having to carry it around for a bit. this also happens at xl35 with easy_id off * makes normal sources of identify work as *identify*. so instead of "this is a sword of slaying {?}" and needing to pay 1k extra to see what it actually slays you get full info immediately * at xl25+, auto-identifies shit for you as if you had the stone of lore. this only ids stuff in your inventory or on the square beneath you
Blake Watson
the wands that were removed
Jason Barnes
also dig/disint because killholes still exist
Jace Smith
Why were the good wands removed anyway? Does that mean if every single complainant against the good wands were given (9) /tele, (9) /HW and (9) /hasting by turn 0, they would automatically ascend every single game?
Caleb Morris
what?
are you saying it shouldn't be allowed to remove something unless it can be abused to get 100% winrate?
Julian Myers
The definition of overpowered features are like that. So I'm asking if the complainants are capable of it or else they would have zero right to complain.
Daniel Thompson
so you are saying that a feature is overpowered IF and ONLY IF it leads to a 100% winrate confirm/deny
Jason Martin
What can I expect?
James Lewis
Lot of flying weapons which you saw before the doors, maybe a blademaster or some other unique end game elf Check wiki for halls of blades for more info
Evan Morris
It doesn't have to be winrate and it certainly doesn't matter even if it isn't a roguelike. Overpowered features are meant to trivialize almost every single hostile in a game like the ones in games commonly found in New Game+ as a sort of a reward for the player for completing it. It could even be a scummable feature that could be found at the earliest stages of a game that'll trivialize 80-90% of the future hostiles found in the said RPG.
Since we're merely talking about Crawl, one of the easiest roguelikes as people call it, it should be safe to assume that getting these allegedly overpowered features at turn 0 would allow the complainants to ascend every single (100%) attempt for a 3 rune game. If they cannot prove it, then their complaints are void.
Dylan Mitchell
so you are saying that, *in crawl specifically*, anything that does not lead to a 100% winrate is not overpowered
Nathan Russell
Yes. You seem to have more overpowered features in mind; are these gargoyles, minotaurs or deep dwarves perhaps? You are welcome to try doing a liveplay of an unbreakable 3 digit streak in the offline client using any of these races while wizmoding the 3 removed wands anytime.
Nathaniel Roberts
getting 15+ evo on a tabtaur is a good idea and the hex wands are good at that point
Dominic Torres
I'm on D:14 with lair and orc clear. Where do I go next? I have snake and shoals
Dylan Gomez
people have come close enough with tougher picks, isn't the leading streak around 50?
Charles Bennett
i dont even play crawl user i'm just asking about your interpretation of what "overpowered" means
if at the start of the game, it asked you to choose between an orange gem and a green gem, and each gave some minor but permanent stat buff when selected... would you consider it imbalanced if choosing the orange gem led to a 10% higher winrate?
Juan Ross
different user: i wouldn't have a problem with that, but i would have a problem with the following: a. game is designed around orange gem, which gives a 70%+ winrate, and green gem isn't explicitly a challenge gem (it is just accidentally bad) b. extremely OP items sometimes drop earlygame, which largely determine if you can win or not
Nathaniel Nguyen
i guess near-max CHR and 2x rFear isn't really enough to deal with some of these level 90+ guys
having 18 blows per round to trigger that aura of fear probably doesn't help either. Maybe i need some !berserk...
Nathan Collins
>almost 1200 HP at lvl 29
Have zombies gone too far?
Adam Davis
>b. extremely OP items sometimes drop earlygame, which largely determine if you can win or not
this doesn't, didn't and has yet to exist in Crawl
Jace Howard
i think somebody didn't think through the game's default alignment settings
with virtues off ents are always (?) friendly to the player
Logan Fisher
yeah immunity to fear is really nice when you can swing it
also rogue classed characters get a level-based reduction to fear recovery time, which is cute
yeah, unless you play with the option that turns off friendly monsters
Christopher Campbell
demeter dying to her own ent summons is a classic
Angel Young
About time I finally get some offense as a Mindcrafter.