Is this safe to use?

Is this safe to use?

I won't end up on some list, will I?

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>I won't end up on some list, will I?
What is PRISM?

VPN--->Tor

I want to go on and browse the dark net. Is it illegal?

you are supposed to connect to Tor while using a VPN.

The darknet is not illegal.
It's just not connected to the www. So basically specific URL's that you need to know because you can't search them on a searchengine.

However. If you engage in illegal activities on said URL's or if such a URL holds illegal activity, then why did you go to that specific adress in the first place?
Also, why did you use an encryption program like TOR?

^this is what PRISM will record you as.

Take this guy's advice and be fucking careful out there. There's some really shady shit going on on some of those URL's.

Starting on the 1st the FBI can legally hack your computer if you have Tor installed, even if you aren't in America and haven't done anything illegal.
So yes, it's safe, but only for two more days.

>Starting on the 1st the FBI can legally hack your computer if you have Tor installed

Sauce?

thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/308088-last-ditch-effort-to-prevent-change-to-rule-41-fails

>He doesn't have full disk encryption on every drive
>He doesn't have a burner laptop with tails for illegal shit
>Hr doesn't have a USB dead man's switch
You deserve it if anything happens to you.

Even with this, exit nodes are all compromised and can record everything. Unless theres a way to find a guaranteed safe exit node you're fucked.

Are you retarded? If the VPN isn't keeping logs (read: not in yurop) it doesn't matter if the node is compromised.

Can confirm.
I used to run an exit node and would slurp up and analyse all the traffic that came through it.
Solution is to only use websites that have HTTPS enabled.
Also hidden services are safe, but put the security slider on the highest level when browsing them

While I think the Tor people say don't do this, it seems like a smart idea.
Benefit 1: NSA can't see you're using Tor unless they collude with the VPN provider, which is unlikely if you've chosen a privacy focused paid VPN service.
Benefit 2: If a website hacks your browser to get your IP address, they'll instead get the IP address of your VPN.
Drawback 1: FUCKING SLOW FUCK. TOR AND HIDDEN SERVICES ESPECIALLY ARE SLOW ENOUGH WITHOUT THIS SHIT

Oh and exits can't deanonymise you.
They don't know who you are they just know what you're looking at.
And if a website uses HTTPS all they can see is the domain of the websites you're visiting.

What do you want to do @OP?

The dumbfuck probably logs into Facebook and Gmail while hes connected to TOR and buying illegal guns lmfao.

> Oh and exits can't deanonymise you.

Educate yourself. google.de/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwixs_q5wdHQAhUJLMAKHcuZAl0QFggkMAA&url=https://media.blackhat.com/bh-us-12/Briefings/Alonso/BH_US_12_Alonso_Owning_Bad_Guys_WP.pdf&usg=AFQjCNEBQkZozDwW3AzmbIz3q8XaW7ksmQ

And by the way: Don't try illegal shit. Even if you succeed it's not worth it.

Oh, and: No, there's no safe way for you to do whatever you want to do. Get a job, friends, whatever...

I think you posted the wrong whitepaper.
This is about building botnets by injecting JavaScript, not deanonymising people.
I can't find anything in this about deanonymisation or revealing IP addresses

has anyone who has gone down the darknet rabbit hole recommend a noob some basic solid resources to learn about it? how do I get gud?

yeah wrong paper sorry.
but i didn't mean deanonymisation via exit node. the deanon. via javascript, but i can't find the article anymore.
but i think it's clear. don't use tor or whatever if you have to ask Veeky Forums about the sceurity. good night mates.

>Enabling JavaScript for anything but trusted websites

You are an idiot. It's literally impossible to get caugh as long as you are using updated Tails, turn javascript off, and talk to no one/don't buy shit.

You can check any website you want, I don't care if it's browsing illegal drugs or looking at cheese pizza or any other fucked up fetish (not that I condone doing so, the possibility is just there) or actually interesting stuff that you may want to check anonymously, it doesn't fucking matter. All the FBI has ever achieved is getting idiots using Windows with javascript and flash on.

The deep web is now mainstream. I see Youtube videos everyday about people literally browsing the hidden wiki and shit, and people talking about illegal porn in Youtube comment section and stuff... people is so stupid, but what I mean is, the encryption is so damn strong and it's only getting better. I just find funny all this mythological shit about the NSA as if they have alien technology.

Install tails on usb, buy drugs.

Ezpz

tor is not illegal (in my country; i don't know your legal situation), BUT there's illegal stuff on some parts of that network.

A good read would be:

torproject.org/docs/documentation.html.en

they explain
- what tor is
- how it works
- what privacy level it achieves
- what (some of) the dangers are

after reading the doc you will be much wiser. you'll know for example that tor doesn't route UDP.

There's tons of random shit. I enjoy going on onion crawlers and clicking on random onions and stumbling upon random stuff. Browse "Harry71" and click away on links and see what you can find. Remember to turn javascript off and turn the privacy slider all the way up and you will be fine.

okay, mr pro. i'm out. EVERYONE LISTEN TO HIM!!! I ALKED SHIT! HE IS RIGHT!

Buying anything is high risk. I wouldn't buy anything, never did and never will. You never know if the guy selling you shit is legit or some LEA agent. It sucks because it would be cool to buy some recreational drugs. I want to do DMT but I can't. So I limit myself to browsing stuff sometimes when im bored.

Dude calm down. I just don't get why you pointed at that as if it was some achievement in hacking Tor to put people away from freely browsing whatever the fuck they want when it was a javascript Windows exploit and that's all.

I also wonder why they don't recommend doing so. It seems logical in principle.

don't forget XKeyscore and ECHELON

This is not illegal, but the minute you start accessing content at that level assume you are being monitored on an individual level.
Remember, at present moment all internet activities are being logged and stored. If we should ever become a person of interest, they have algorithms that can quickly scan our profiles to seek out keywords and suspicious activities.

By crossing that threshold and doing something that is considered a "suspicious activity" (using tor), you are now singled out and being watched. I am not a tin-foil, but this is truth here, did you ever hear the news of how people who visited the linuxjournal were being monitored?

>You never know if the guy selling you shit is legit or some LEA agent

while this may be true, why would any agent target a random buyer for a "personal" amount? I assume that LE uses the same "go for the dealer/big buyer" approach. that way they can make one arrest rather than 500

You're being monitored if you ever communicate with someone who communicates with someone who communicates with a person of interest.
Which basically means everybody is being watched.

t. tin-foil

Well that's what they said in the movie Snowden.
And I doubt they'd make such a big lie in a film that's supposed to be a true story.

Yes & Yes

They don't actually recommend doing this. It has the advantage of hiding the TOR traffic from the ISP & others however.

VPN's are alot easier to compromise then TOR. But connecting to a VPN via TOR and paying for the VPN user is safe.

I'm pretty sure they had to have a warrant or they had to proof suspicion for that. Been a while since I read about it. To hack everyone's computer using TOR would be overkill and time consuming no?

All Data is decpryted at the exit node so don't be stupid and use end to end encryption if you need security.

however malicious exit nodes can do man in the middle attacks and find out who you are if they also happen to own the entry node you used.

t. someone who's never researched surveillance

>communicate with someone who communicates with someone who communicates with a person of interest

my brother, who lives in DC has a girlfriend who works for a senator. I have no ties to the senator, despite the connection being present as described. The point is, you stretch out the connections that far, then the term "a person of interest" loses all meaning.

kind've like the world handshake theory. just because you exist in a database does not mean you are being monitored. monitored maybe to the degree that a million other people are

Yeah it's true that you aren't actually a "person of interest" and you aren't technically being monitored. However all of your information is on file if they ever need it.

And by all of your information I literally mean everything and it's easily accessible by them at any time

so assume you're using Tor, tails, VPN, etc. you still claim that incriminating evidence could be produced? if all necessary precautions are taken?

they have one up on you and it is forever this way... no exceptions possible?

I'd like to believe that it's possible to remain anonymous using certain methods but you just can't know for sure. A lot has been uncovered about the power of surveillance and it's probably just the tip of the iceberg, if anything though they probably would never use any of that information against you but they have it anyways.

Lmao no. Vetted reviews and shit make it really safe. Trust me.

I guess this would be the right place to ask. I'm completely new to this starting and building your own site.

I need your help. I would like to start my own site or blog where I offer my service to paying customers. The problem is my service is going to be illegal. I'm not talking about cp or assasin bullshit, it is like betting on fixed games in sports but my information is regarding the financial sector. Well it is insider trading with nonpublic information.

So I have two challenges:

1. How do I find a service willing to host my site without giving them any information about me. Is it even possible? I don't want the police knocking on my door. Are there any services who are going to host your site no matter what, as long as you pay them?
For example these filehosteing sites where you can stream movies, how can they offer their service without ending up in jail?

2. Payment. I guess my best option would be bitcoin. Or is there another possibility to receive payments anonymously?

Difficult thing to do.
People will want you to prove that your information is worth something, and there's no guarantee they won't go on and resell it

I know. So I need to give my information for free at the beginning and develop a reputation.

I do not care if they sell the information. Selling the information makes no sense because you profit the most if you know something before anybody else, before the market reacts to the upcoming information.

Liberty vps. Orange vps

Thanks you.

Sure bud. Anything esle you got a question about?

Oh and about payments, set up an offshore entity to accept shit other than bitcoin. And make the payments for some bs consulting service. Just be careful if you are in land of freedom cause government will cuck you.

Right now I'm researching and taking notes.

What mistakes other did and how they got busted.
(for example using some cheap laptop just for this shit, nothin else that could identify my habits, VPN, Tor, free Wi-Fi; I'm just going to upload text and screenshots so no problem if it's going to be a really slow connection)

How to invest/spent money without suspicion (online gambling for example, cash in from offshore account and cash out to legal account, so the taxman won't ask questions)

Encryption (just in case they somehow really get a hold of me or I get robbed or some other bullshit)

No paper trail. (this means I need to somehow store safely my documents regarding the offshore company and accounts, not sure how to manage this without involving people close to me or travelling to a safe country with robust bank secrecy)

And I'm pretty sure there are issues I didn't even consider yet. I'm not in a hurry.

as you google for Tor/ Tails/ Alternative

and if you download any of those,

you will be flagged by FBI, just in case.

but yeah some really heavy money to be made in Tor for sure, get ready for the millionaire neet lifestyle if you start doing business in Tor op.

>or looking at cheese pizza
I just ordered from Papa John's
Is this safe to use?
I won't end up on some list, will I?

You're already on a list dumbass, this is America we all are.

What can you do on the dark net anyway?

Besides looking at illegal porn or other fucked up shit that I wouldn't touch anyway, can you make money off there?

Time to go back to the days of old BBS style of communication. Fully encrypted end to end of course. We can even use hypertext if we want.

LOL you're a retard..

zeronet.io

you're welcome

What if somebody were really rich and decided to run up a AWS TOR solution spinning up like 1000's of exit nodes all over on AWS - what then?