I am about to spend 16.900€ (eurofag here) on a gorgeous Alfa 159 JTDm 2.0 with 170cv

I am about to spend 16.900€ (eurofag here) on a gorgeous Alfa 159 JTDm 2.0 with 170cv...
Please taught me out of it!

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as long as it has the Ti trim, do it.

Elaborate please....Ti trim?

>Alfa Romeo
Awes-
>JTD diesel
run.
petrol or no Alfa for you. Diesel completely ruins the car.

TI is a trim level.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfa_Romeo_159#Year_by_year_changes

Its a styling pack, red stitching and such. Just looks nicer. 2.4jtd is best because the q4 is rare as fuck but the 2.0 diseasel is good too.

>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfa_Romeo_159#Year_by_year_changes
Yes!! continue that, I should not spend money on this non-sense...but it is still an amazing car

This is true

Bullshit, the 2.4 diesel is awesome, easy remap for an extra 40 hires and 350+ ft-lb of torque with 50mpg.

What about the 2.0 diesel?

>that much
>for a used non-classic Alfa

Not worth it

For that kind of money you cat get 2 of them. One for spares.

>implying the diesel doesn't ruin the handling with its weight and completely ruin the driving experience
Take your polluting pile of shit elsewhere faggot

same shit, different displacement.

It's ok, just ok, I'd have one that for sure.

>giving a fuck about polution
>talks about handling in a FWD wagon

Amerilards at it again.

>implying the only good things about an Alfa are its looks, handling, and rev-happy engines
With the diesel, you kill 2 of the 3 things that make Alfas great. Either way, it's going to be unreliable. So why bother with diesel hell? At least with the petrol, you'll have some fun before you're on the side of the motorway in a cloud of steam.

>expensive (not an audi

I would rather drive an e46 wagon than this ugly piece of shit.

>implying you are such a fine driver that you could teller the difference between the handling of a diesel from that of a gas powered car

Don't you have to discuss laptimes on cars you will never buy?

Still believing the unreliable Alfa meme.

>gorgeous

>implying implications

Clarkson said it so it must be true!

that not a meme thought they change the recommended belt timing interval replacement from 120 000 km to 60 000 on all TS and JTS petrol engine

In the 90's yeah on the 16v fiat based blocks after the move from timing chains to belts. But it's an everyday engine that revs to 7600rpm. I've had a few (many) and they can take a decent amount of abuse.

looks like a minivan

8k is guaranteed to get you a mint one.
That shit better have a diamond incrusted interior or something

>thinking that ugly pos looks "gorgeous"
>2L

nah what i was talking happend on the alpha romeo 147 and 156
the 159 might have other engines though

Not unreliable.
Shitty build quality and bushings.
Most rattle like hell, some before reaching 100k kms.

You might be blind user.
Or just suffering from poor taste.

>estate/wagon model
>gorgeous

sigh

best looking wagon.
do it.

Is that a fucking Chrysler Pacifica?

Ever owned an Alfa?

If it's not the V6, then diesels are their best engines. Yes patrols sound nicer, but their diesels are more powerful and economical.

OP - Lovely cars but expensive to repair of things go wrong. 17K seems a lot for one though...

thisthisthis
The 2.4 even sounds nice as it's a 5 cyl

I guess if you're buying an unreliable car you might as well go full out on the options so you at least have a unique car to sell when you get tired of repairing it.

Dont get the fucking diesel.
I looked into the 200hp petrol one

kek, this

>spending almost 17k
>car doesn't even have an LS
yurofags are so cucked