America

>be 18
>find nice ad for a 240sx
>regulations in greece say that if your car engine has over 2000cc you pay a certain """"luxury vehicle tax""""
>basically its a +1000 euro
tax
>tfw I will never be able to do sick doriftos because of a dumbass tax imposed by other eurocucks
>tfw mx5s and celicas are "rare finds in greece"

Fucking end me now

If you don't live in a ghetto or in Ontario and the car isn't worth anything the insurance aren't so bad.

No it isn't. Most new drivers get their parents old V6 sedan.

No, I live in France and my insurance doesn't want to cover my car because it is a "SUPER SPORTSCAR" as they say

Toyota MR2 1.6l, barely 115HP

As I am under 25 years old they told me that I couldn't get above 90hp, of course if I would have been a woman it wouldn't be an issue (women pay far less in insurances here in France than men)

So I just stick with my Autobianchi Abbarth A112 which is 85hp approx

It kills me, having to wait four years to drive a decent car

>yurofags
the only way they get a v8 is spend a million dollars one some gayass frilly ferrari that needs engine out oil changes and burns to the ground every 2 miles, or spend 250k on some fat 7000lbs mercedes/audi that's less reliable than a ferrari and costs 5 figures in repairs every month. america is the only country that matters when it comes to cars.

This. That's why Americans are so great at building million-dollar-hypercar killers that anyone who works hard enough can actually realistically afford.

Eurocucks meanwhile are too busy building status symbols for their Arab overlords and should be removed from this board, as they can't be car enthusiasts.

>he didnt grow up in an upper middle class suburban hell hole where everyone gets a new jeep or mustang as thier first car

Germany here, my insurance has been as cheap as it gets since I turned 23. I'd pay 1,000€ a year for my 86 if I didn't get a special employee deal.

>America is the only country that matters when it comes to cars

Yes, you read that correctly

>I honestly feel bad for you euros,
Don't. They brought this upon themselves and deserve no pity.

>UK
>18 years old
>1.7 Lada
>Less that 80hp when new
>1960s tier engine with rather low compression
>Only been over 60mph once.
>£1500 insurance
>Very danger

Just fuck my shit up boii

All your points apply to a single cause
>poor
I've seen plenty of kids driving expensive and fancy cars such as Audis and BMWs because their rich parents buy them whatever they want. It's just that majority of Europeans don't wanna bother with high taxes so over time it got into our blood to think about empeegees before anything when buying a car.

Not everyone is blessed to have rich, middle-class, suburbanite parents who willing give their children everything on a silver platter but then again, not everyone is cursed with the burden of high automotive taxes, high fuel costs and high insurance costs.

Lmao that only applies to west eu. Here in lithuania you can get anything as long as you have right amount of money. No one here drives petrol turboboxes. Its either diesel VAG or any other german car, sometimes jap. No restrictions on power or displacement. Insurance is fucked up. Newer cars are cheaper to insurance than old, not always tho.

man, switzerland isn't all that bad, but one day I'll join you guys and move to texas. God bless America.

>playing GT6 online with guy from greece
>talking about shit
>he tells me he has a 1.0L Corsa or some shit
>says cars are super expensive to run there, especially 2L+
>tell him my parents both drive V8s, 4.6L and 5.8L
>he tells me basically nobody drives anything like that where he lives
>the economy is shit
>said he would move to America but he can't afford it
>feltbadman.jpg

Yeah, here shit is fucked up.
I am 32, and I have to pay 360€ / year for a 163HP 2.0d BMW.

And that is a good price mind.

When I was 15 I bought a muscle car with a 7.4 L engine. Low insurance costs. Europoors btfo

>meet some folks from russia on irc
>expect ladas
>not a single one owns a car
>they cant even afford ladas

>american
>50k debt for university 200k debt for hospital

nice

What about motorcycles, though?

I'm sure a k1600gt would have all the inline6 a BMW driver wants, be fast and comfy and still affordable in 'socialist' Europe.

... Jason?

>Tfw euros will never know the joy of driving a 21 foot long car with an 8 liter V8, 150 horsepower, 5500 pounds, and 5 mpg

italy here

gas is around 1.5 euros per liter or 5.7 euros per gallon

insurance is extremely expensive if you are under 26 y.o. (or 30 y.o. in some cases, depends on the company)

mandatory DOT inspection every 2 years, you can't modify anything that's written on the vehicle registration certificate so no power mods and no structural mods or you'll fail the inspection or you will get your vehicle impounded if the police gets you (I’ve seen vehicles impounded for using wheels 1 inch bigger than those allowed on the vehicle registration certificate)

annual ownership tax calculated depending on region, power (expressed in kw) and emissions standard ("euro 0" being the most polluting and "euro 5" being the least polluting) and age of the vehicle

for every kw between 0 and 100 you have to pay between 2,58 ("euro 5" cars) and 3 euros ("euro 0" cars), for every kw over 100 you have to pay between 3,87 and 4.5 euros...and there’s the kicker: if your power output is over 185 kw (251 cv) your car is considered a luxury vehicle so you have to pay a "supertax", an additional 20 (yes, twenty) euros for every kw over 185 if your car is between 0 and 5 y.o., 12 euros per kw if it's between 5 and 10 y.o., 6 euros if between 10 and 15 y.o. and 3 euros if between 15 and 20 y.o. (older vehicles are exempt)

one example? i found a '98 C5 corvette in my region, 358 cv, annual tax is 932.20 euro per year plus a 236.04 euros supertax, that's 1168,24 euros per year for a car that's almost 20 years old...

another one? let's see the annual tax for a brand new 707hp hellcat? 1.885,75 per year plus a fucking 6697 euros supertax!

we literally can't have anything nice here, please bomb us

thats literally nothing, besides I assume you can just slip some euros to the emmision and inspection checker, that happens in spain a lot

yeah, some mechanics can force your car to pass the inspection but you have to find one and befriend him...people still do modify cars but it can be very risky if the popo ask you to open the bonnet and the officer knows one thing or two about cars...

but that's not even the point, why do we have to pay that much for cars? and why can't we modify our cars if we do it sensibly (i.e. no stance faggotry)? why my dream of a 400 hp LS3 swapped rx7 is impossible in this shithole of a country? why i can't be happy?

le-jeune-conducteur.com/assurance/motorisation
>Exemples de voitures puissantes :
>BMW Serie 1
>Audi A3
Glad that my dad immigrated to Canada. He even bought a camaro once he could afford one.

Just make sure you have four doors

Better to have a small engine than be American

That's pretty cheap for 18. Passed at 26, Vauxhall Corsa 1.2, 74hp. Around £1,800 for a year. Can't wait till I've been driving a full year and pay like £800...

Because you're a fucking bitch. Regulation like that is tyrannical - shit less restricting than that started the American Revolution. Rise against your fucking government, you cum stain. Grow some balls.

It gets better, user. At 32 I paid £180 to insure a 2.9l V6. Also £86 for my van.

Brian fuck off, you have a review to drop on Monday.

Used C5 start at 13k, used C6 start at 20k in Germany.

>brotruckers think they are hardcore
>shitboxes from the 70's had higher displacements.
lmao'ing at truckers irl.

No, what you bought was a lazily engineered turd. No car industry in the history of the world has been as dog shit lazy and arrogant as Detroit in the '70s.

>1.3L rotary engines are taxed as 2.6L's

Rotary engines get taxed by car weight here in germany...

GT-86 oder AE-86?

>No car industry in the history of the world has been as dog shit lazy and arrogant as Detroit in the '70s.
Wrong. European*

wtf? I bet some of your politician got a pretty fat envelope from a VW hq to do this.

>I honestly feel bad for you euros, even the 1.3L rotary engines are taxed as 2.6L's

You can't afford £145 per year?

Or 90€ in Germany's case, which is roughly $95?

Actualy that was done in the 60s to compensate for the high specific output of rotary cars.

It was made for the NSU Wankel Spider with its 0,5L it pretty much wouldn´t have payed any taxes at all if they didn´t passed that law.

Why would you want a powerful big engined car for your daily commute? Does it raise the speed limit or do you save time/earn money by using the cars full capacity on the road? Such people have no life but bragging about who uses the least of their cars potential, wasting resource and money. Truly a 21 century problem/attitude.
Despite earning well over the average median wage, I drive my 1.6 ecobox Alfa 147 and save enough money to trackday it every once in a while and drive my national rotax chamiponships, spending more time racing and enjoying myself than all of you combined. Please review your lifes purposes

>Does it raise the speed limit?
only in Germany

fuck off regularcars

Yeah, especially as the average American work commute is just driving at a steady 50mph on a straight highway for half an hour.

ah, ok then

>women pay far less in insurances here in France than men
what?! Why?

Because statistically, french men are more likely to total the car, while women most times have scratches or a fender bender. The average men average men will "cost" the insurance more.

>live in Denmark
>Be 20
>buy first car. A rebuilt, totaled Toyota aygo 1.0 three cylinder 68bhp.
>it's from 2011, 136.000km
>30500DKK / 4400USD
>insurance with only liability, 1100USD…
>Gas is 2USD a liter
>earn 14000DKK a month, 8500 after taxes
Fucking reeeeee cock euro

I have the same car, but don´t pay as much as you in anything.
t. german

/thread

Faggot with the /thread meme XDDD
Close the thread everybody. Everything that needed to be said has beens saids.

>Seeing that memepost since like 2009

Falcunt detected. Do not listen to this fool

22/Latvia
I drive a 350z and only pay 75€ a year for liability insurance. Annual inspections are a pain though.

>Latvia
>no theft insurance or vandalism insurance

>18yr old norwgian
>first car is 2002 saab 9-5 2.0t chipped to 210hp
>pay 1200$ for it
>500$/year on parents insurance
>250$/year tax
>make 4x times more money than amerifags

I don't see what you're on about?

Veeky Forums is poor as fuck, despite everyone claiming they drive a muscle car or some other high performance car.

DELET THIS!
A 147 is not an econobox. It may be small on the outside, but it's a veritable mid size car.

>Tfw drove a 5.0L 305 at 16

>europoor
>my first car was a 2.6l straight six 190e benz
>insurance so low I could pay it +gas and student housing with my 450€ job

What

>Central American
>Drive whatever the fuck you want whenever the fuck you want

Lucky. My first car was a 3.0L V6 ('92 Dodge Spirit).

the truth is, no one cares about young guys who want to go fast here (except for themselves ofc)
the public, the govt, everyone sees them as a menace so the laws will not change

Its not about having a v8 that barely do 3 digit whp its just that a car should be able highway speeds at relatively rpm and in America. Your car would normal in America where finding a car with less than 100hp is difficult.

I'm sure that every american Veeky Forumstist had a V8 mustang as his first ride, and totally not some hand-me-down '92 LeSabre

I've heard it's illegal to import RHD vehicles to Lithuania, is that true?

>highway speeds at relatively rpm
If you meant relatively low rpm, that is not much about the engine, it is more about the gearbox...

Its not illegal to import, but as of now you cant register them in LTU. Our government plans to allow registering RHD cars in the near future with requirement to put mandatory camera and other special side view mirrors and other equipment to make it more safe. But as we know, here in LTU youth cant properly drive LHD BMWs and atleast one accident occurs every weekend. So, i think cheap RHD BMWs even make everything worse lmao

LOL. The insurance on motorcycles for young people in Europe is even more absurd then the insurance on cars.

And thats on top of being restricted to tiny bikes in many countries until you are 24.

>LS swapped rx7

your goverment exist to keep you subhuman plebs well behaved

thank god

The prius is above 90 horsepower. That's ridiculous. I'm surprised someone hasn't changed that considering the year it is.

>Be American
>Pay >$100/month for insurance
>Literally getting assfucked by insurance companies and don't even realize.

I have a 1999 corolla1,4l and pay 65€ per month.
im 21

>insurance on your parants
thats why it wasnt so much.

I am europoor and my first car was a BMW 7 series with a 4.4 liter V8 and 333 horsepower. And I'm not even rich
Fuck off OP

>insurance on your parants
is there any disadvantage to doing this though?

tfw 80mph at 1500rpm

>80mph
why that slow?

First car was a 1970 toyota hilux
wrecked it in freezing rain

After that I bought my neighbor's 1999 civic lx

>>Europe
>>"Sport" cars have high insurance
>Europe is a single country
Firstly, fuck off.
I'm 25 fresh out of uni and could easily afford a V8 Mustang if I wanted to. Also:
>nodebt, great pay

>be me, be European
>get passed casually by McLaren P1 and similar cars regularly
>go to post office today, have to squeeze past a Merc SLS AMG on the way that's parked all across the walkway
>it's rare to not see the M-series, AMG, S-line or GTI models

>>/dbt/

Now this is the real question.

Your driving experience won't count towards your own no claims bonus, so when you finally do get your own insurance at age 23 or something your rate will be higher than the rate of 23 year olds who've already had insurance since they started driving.

can't rise against shit without fire power, they won, it's too late for us, it's the failure of the European Union, instead of a big free market they created an ultra regulated nanny state hell and bailing out like the uk did would sign our own death sentence (at least financially)

that's why i love ls swap anything, they creates so much butthurt...they are basically wheeled trolls

>no firepower
vid related is considered a toy here...
youtu.be/zJGpC_Qgo5E

Except I do know this joy.

>that's why i love ls swap anything, they creates so much butthurt
so
you do things not because you'll gain from them, but to piss off strangers
a benchracer if I ever saw one

>>Europe
>>"Sport" cars have high insurance
.0L NA I4's in FWD econoboxes being "large" engines
>>Can't drive turbo cars if under a certain age in some countries
>>Can only drive 1.2L, and 1.4L's for insurance
>>Some europeans actually brag about have an engine larger than 1.6 Liters

All lies

literally didn't understand any of this, english please

>Any user live in a european country without these regulations? Where an 18 Y/O could drive a larger displacement engine?
yes most of us. Yes we have less pointless muscle cars because we think drag racing is for spineless cucks. If you can't handle hairpins on black ice fast you're a scrub.
My first car was a v10 TDI at around 16.

lmao.
I told my dad here in balt about UK insurance rates.
He tought I was full of shit because he has never payed over 100 a year for any car.