I just lost to a 6th gen Golf GTI with my 08 Sonata 3.3L V6.
GTI: >FWD >I4 Turbo >200 hp @ 51000 RPM >207 lb ft. torque @ 1800 RPM >3160 lbs >DCT/Manual (?)
Sonata >FWD >V6 >235 hp @ 6000 RPM >226 lb ft. torque @ 3500 RPM >3458 lbs >5 spd auto
Doesn't seem like I should have lost. I was gaining on him around 60mph but this is on a public road so didn't matter.
Jack Reyes
german engineering wins again
Charles Martinez
I'm thinking of buying a V6 Camry to replace it. Seems like an upgrade in every way while retaining comfy 4 door status.
Andrew King
korean pigfat landbarge loses to lighter german turbocharged godmobile someone call somebody!
Brandon Ramirez
The gti probably puts the power down better
Hudson Roberts
Your car has a lower HP to weight ratio and he may have had fresher tires.
Thomas Phillips
i'd get a maxima or an accord desu 8th gen accords started having 270ish hp
Jason Allen
>Sonata
that's...not what they're for
Nicholas Ortiz
The GTI has shorter and lower gearing plus an extra gear.
Michael Hall
You truly are your brother's son if you believe that either one of these shit boxes can lose traction. The tires don't mean shit. I drive a Lexus GS300 which has the same power to weight as a Sonata but it is RWD, and my tires can only slip for a fraction of a second.
Carson Cook
i won a highway pull against a mustang in my brz because he was limited to 120 mph and i was able to keep going
Jayden Nelson
FWD cars lose traction very easily under acceleration. One of the main reasons why I will never understand people buying FWD sports cars.
Brody Jones
I have a '13 V6 Camry. I can't imagine it'll be that revolutionary of a difference in driving experience, other than maybe some interior goodies.
Caleb Young
theyre fwd fuckface even a weaksauce i4 can do a peel moving at 20
Liam Ortiz
Is it a v6? Does it feel like a low 14 second car?
Jack Moore
With shitty tires my old 170hp forte could spin em
Carson Mitchell
I'm not much of a racer beyond having fun taking off, but according to google it is indeed a low 14 second car.
It's basically 5 years of advancement. The power difference is definitely present, but I question how noticeable it is.
Hunter Anderson
>51000 rpm Jesus fucking Christ no wonder you lost, I'm surprised he didn't take off.
Henry Rivera
>'I have a '13 V6 Camry' > 'is it a V6'
Nigger what is wrong with you
Parker Flores
Responded to the wrong poster, nerd.
Evan Thomas
wait, what? Are you retarded, or do you just fail at trolling?
Jaxson Morris
peak power to weight isnt everything. how quickly you reach peak power and how wide that band of good power delivery is makes a big difference.
Dylan Harris
>hot hatch with superior specs vs shitbox dd commuter mom car
Not trying to be a cunt but your Sonata was not designed to be a quick car. GTi has better gearing and weighs less. Also likely has a superior transmission, and produces power sooner than the Sonata.
Sorry dude
Alexander Nguyen
What kind of shitty V6 mustang is limited to 120?
Lucas Ramirez
What are gear boxes?
Matthew Foster
He won because hr maxes out his torque at a lower rpm and your car is heavier
Aaron Hughes
my jetta tdi and kia, each with about 140hp, EASILY lose traction. have you honestly never driven a fwd car? wtf
Nolan Scott
Peak horsepower is only at one point for each gear. Power curve is more important.
Tyler Wilson
>Mazdaspeed 3 >260 hp w/ 275 ft/lbs of torque >3100 lbs >manuel~ >locking diff in the front from an rx8
btfo by mazda once again
Lincoln Edwards
All 2005- 2014s
Ian Sanchez
stop racing people in your hyundai lmao
CRINGELORD
Brody Torres
>51000 rpm What the fuck this thing be?! German engineering I swear can' understand this shit.
Brody Torres
FWD does fine under light acceleration, better than RWD. And FWD does better at putting down bursts of torque.
But under constant acceleration the center of gravity of the car shifts to the rear. This means the front becomes lighter and the rear becomes heavier. This is why Mid-engine cars can accelerate so hard from a standstill. They have the perfect recipe for straight line acceleration.
If you took an MR2 and a Civic. Gave them the same engine and made sure the weight was the same, the MR2 would win because it's going to have much better grip from a standstill.
This is highschool physics m8.
Brody Bennett
sonata looks nice desu
Matthew Wood
I've driven a 6th gen gti turbo on tougay and it's quick and nimble. Fuck the pedals setup. Germans don't want you to have fun.
Daniel Lopez
The GTI engines tune very well
Brayden Bell
Big heavy car with a not so powerful V6.
You can't just stick a V6 in any boat you want and think it will be fast.
Kevin Myers
No way! I'm fucking researching this shit desu. The Mustang is my dream car that I hope to get when I turn 25. If this is the case I'm fucking bailing out on Ford.
Landon Robinson
Well the 2017 UK v8 and Ecoboost can reach 145mph (limited). So... Still muh realistic dream car senpai
Bentley Kelly
Your car is heavier, autobox probably has a slow shift, gti probably produces more horsepower to the wheels, your engine likely no longer produces 235hp anymore etc
Michael Nguyen
>Also likely has a superior transmission Definitely has a better transmission
Carter Hill
Most cars are limited to around 120mph because manufacturers want to include cheaper all weather tires
Jason Thompson
>comparing a boring family sedan to a hothatch
Chase Clark
all pre 2010 KIA/Hyundai cars are pretty terrible and im being nice. I really wouldn't buy anything built before 2012.