Was the U.S. really irrelevant in the first world war?

Was the U.S. really irrelevant in the first world war?

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Their entry in the war meant the Germans would have to accept the treaty of Versailles.

This in turn meant that the Germans felt they had been "stabbed in the back", as opposed to realizing that war only leads to pointless stalemates and inherent institutional and cultural changes are needed to stop such horrors happening again, changes that German themselves would decide upon lending it more legitimacy than the league of nations and the weimar republic.

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It had a bigger role than most Europoors want to admit.

If it wasn't for America joining, the war probably would've lasted till 1919.

Not irrelevant, but certainly not one of the major players

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It caused Germany to give up. If americas fresh troops hadnt appeared the european powers would probably just stop fighting eventually without Germany having an unconditional surrender. Americans didnt do anything significant during the fighting but their influence in the end was pretty important.

As much as I like to be all "MURICA FUCK YEAH!" America's usage in WW 1 only brought about the end of the war to a much sooner halt. With the fresh troops to the battlefield against the Germans, it was not hard for Germany to see the writing on the wall that this shit isn't going to work.

American soldiers showed up at the end of the war and they were boy scout tier

They actually are noted to have performed quite well overall for being fresh troops.

The Germans even called for the Geneva convention to ban shotguns as the Americans would use them to clear trenches extreamly quickly.

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>They actually are noted to have performed quite well overall for being fresh troops
The literal opposite, they performed terribly, used outdated tactics and took disproportionately massive casualties

>The Germans even called for the Geneva convention to ban shotguns
No they didnt. They thought they were uncivilized -as did pretty much every other power- and threatened to execute on sight anyone caught using one. The entente said the same thing about the flammenwerfer but as far as anyone knows neither side ever actually acted on it

America was a significant source (really THE source) of funds, resources, and materiel before they entered the war. American entry into the war played a somewhat negligible role for 1917, but after October 1917, major US troop meant a decisive morale and manpower boost which both helped to halt the Spring Offensive before it took Paris and almost solely allowed the Hundred Days Offensive to occur in the way that it did. Really, our military contribution was minimal, but our overall contribution was far larger than Europeans want to admit but not anywhere near the "WE WON THE WAR SINGLEHANDLEDLY BY JOINING" mentality. Somewhere in the middle really.

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The military was ok at best, but the US financed the ENTIRE war effort for the allied countries when the British Empire ran out of money in 1917. That contribution was vital.

If the USA had joined the League of Nations, would WW2 have been prevented?

No. Even if they had joined, their isolationism would have meant they just kind of sat there.

the spring of 1919 to be exact, although probably not with much higher losses, and possibly not lasting that long.

the writing was on the wall once the spring offensive failed, a limited offensive over the summer to regain that ground might have been enough to demonstrate to the germans that they could only hope for a decent peace deal, especially after a harsh winter and the naval blockade ensured that winter would be harsh.

No, even though America wasn't in the league they still had control and cock blocked Japan at every corner. War was coming because of poor leadership.

They may have not done much fighting however the entry of America meant that there the whole American industry and future troops.
Just their presence on the Entente made dragging out the war any logger fruitless

Germany only surrendered due to fear of facing the U.S. In battle

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You're both not quite right.

US Army troops were pretty bad, hastily throw together units without the right seasoning and knowledge of the tactics yet, and did not do well.

US Muhreens had been fighting for decades on island hopping campaigns throughout the Pacific and were very experienced, maybe not with the right type of warfare, but they were considered pretty aggressive when compared to the Yuros who had seen some shit. Insert muh devil dogs memes here.

>US Muhreens had been fighting for decades on island hopping campaigns throughout the Pacific and were very experienced, maybe not with the right type of warfare, but they were considered pretty aggressive when compared to the Yuros who had seen some shit. Insert muh devil dogs memes here.
No they weren't

Those shit actions in the Philippines were done by Volunteers mostly and they had stupid moments there like allowing themselves to be ambushed or a fucking general getting sniped.

>because they made some mistakes, it means the soldiers weren't experienced
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>Germans made some mistakes early war, therefore the soldiers were shit by the end of the war

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You don't get it.

Besides a *small* number of professional units, the USA did not have a professional standing army up until, well, up until after WWI. You can argue up until WWII even. Americans relied for the longest time on Volunteer Regiments to do infantryshit. And those were most of the soldiers that went to fight Spics and later Flips.

When that war was over -and it was a backwards war versus a backwards opponent- the "veterans" dispersed and went with their lives. By WWI, the only people from the Spanish American War and the Flip American war were just the high-echelon officers. The soldiers and NCOs were a new generation of youngshit volunteers.

This is why the US Expeditionary forces spent a fucking year behind lines training to be up to spec and fit for the Western Front.

I think you misunderstood me, because everything you just stated I agree with, most of the AEF was doo-doo, which is why Pershing spent so much time trying to train them up to fight in trenches and hold their own clay. Then he ended up having to just throw them in to fill gaps anyway.

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Anyway, the contribution in terms of materials was substantial. In terms of fighting it was a pretty big morale boost for the Entente troops in the west, but the actual troops didn't perform that well.
Also, apparently, 15k Serbian Americans volunteered to fight for Serbia, with the other notable source of volunteers for Serbia being Slavic deserters from the Austro-Hungarian army.

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