American cars are now fast on tracks but slow in straight lines

Ferrari 458 GT2
Porsche 911 RSR
Aston Martin V8 Vantage GTE

ALL LOST TO A CORVETTE IN 2015

Porsche 911 RSR
Ferrari 488 GTE
Aston Martin V8 Vantage GTE
Ferrari 458 GT2

ALL LOST TO A FORD IN 2016

>THE STATE OF YUROPE

>muh Alpha platform
literally just oversized French tyres and British dampers under a 1960s Detroit bunker on wheels

Kek.
Here comes the autist.

>people think american cars are heavy
>somehow BWM, Mercedes, and Audi get away with weighing 5000lbs because they put a tiny strip of carbon fiber on the metal door panel

>Ford won Lemans 24
>Ford/Cadillac won Daytona 24
What does it have to do with production car reliability??

But American cars are very heavy in comparison to a BMW for example

>mustang and camaro
>not muscle cars

Gimme some of what youre smoking, user, it sounds like its strong stuff.

Not true. Most BMWs, like American cars, are in the 3,500 to 4,500 pound class.

The Camaro was considered a muscle car at one point (no longer is) and the mustang was never ever considered muscle, it's always been a pony car

>ecoboost v6 and LS motors (used in actual production cars unlike european engines) win the most notorious races for engine stress

The 5 series can weigh as much as 1500lbs heavier than a base model CTS

3 series and c class are also pig fat heavy compared to american sedans

>American cars
>fast

Lol

>United Kingdom Radical Motorsport
>Founded 2013
>Folded 2014

Yuros are too poor to even go racing let alone win at it

Radical Sportscars was founded in 1997 and is still making cars today.

Try harder.

M3/M4 weighs ~3300 lbs
the base 3 series weighs around 2900-3000 lbs
any american sedans of the class/size that weight less than that?

>one formula ford team wherein the manufacturer built it's own car
>representative of the state of Radical as a whole

>most American cars are shit for 30 years
>Make 5 good cars and expect people to change their minds

Same reason why you meet 1 smart black guy and don't think the 100000000000 dumb ones you met in your lifetime are instantly smart as well.
Redefining a Brand takes 1-2 GENERATIONS, not 1-2 years.
Cadillac makes 500hp monsters, yet anyone I talk to thinks "old man car".

Same reason why a shitty Italian car with a plastic interior goes for 120k, whereas a better Japanese car has to go for 80 to compete.

Deal with it.

>2900-3000 lbs
dont lie you filthy yuro
it starts at 3300 and can weight as much as 4000

Nearly every 4 door american car is in the same weight range

>ford engines
>relevant race wins: 0
>a dodge charger beats it in a straight line
>best finish at lemans: 20th

embarassing

Almost everything new is pigfat and absolutely everything new is ugly

F30 320i weighs 1395 kg (3075 lbs) with added 75 kg driver, luggage and fluids
An empty F30 weighs sub 3000lbs

>Two of the top 3 spots of production cars at the Nurburgring
>Pikes Peak Unlimited Class 2015 win

It's the post-truth era in the "land of the free" now

are you stupid or just european?

>radical sr8
>top speed 155
>need a crash helmet to drive it
>get pulled over every time you drive it
>made of plastic and lacks a windshield
>never won a race despite being an oversized go cart

really impressive yurope, you sure showed us.

>this damage control

The 3 series can be as light as 2866 lbs (empty)
1375 kg is the EU curb weight which includes 75 kg added driver weight. 1300 kg - 2866 lbs
Get educated amerifriend

bonus fun fact: the F30 316i (europe-only) weighs 2830 lbs empty

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fastest_production_cars_by_acceleration
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nürburgring_Nordschleife_lap_times

Funny... Looking through these lists all I see are European cars and occasional Jap cars. Could it be that you are deluded or are the facts wrong?

The exception to this rule of course is the Tesla, which isn't exactly what people think of when you say "American Cars"

>have to spend 2.5 million on a car to go 0.08 seconds faster to 60mph than a $70,000 economy car made for people who dont like or care about cars

>having to spend 2.5 million on a car or chop off all the bits of a car that make it livable, to go more or less the same speed as a $100,000 chrysler with the engine from a pickup truck

lmao

It's less American cars are getting better and more everything else is getting worse.

>Tarmac pikes peak
>Class that shares nothing with the street cars
>Factory driver record on the nords

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Your argument went faster in the trash than the tesla P100 hitting 0-60

The AMG GT R costs 143k GBP which translates into $178.000
Stay BTFO

mercedes wont race the AMG GT at lemans to take on the Ford GT

i wonder why

Benz still cries and is butthurt over this. youtu.be/KqK5wEssHjY That's why.

The AMG GT3 Le Mans Cup exists

didnt win

theyre technically pony cars user but people just accept them as muscle because their competitors are muscle

>small black engines

That pedantic bullshit is dumb as fuck these days. You have two cars that are currently. Made that could qualify as one. The Mustang and Camaro are heavy as fuck and have big engines in the front of essentially a sedan.

If japs can call an R32 a muscle car or a supra a muscle car the fucking Mustang is a muscle car Christ I hate you people

>Facts
>wrong
Lmao /pol/ plz go

gm fangirls getting btfo yet again

>Tesla
>gobs of torque
>fast off the line
>can't turn
>pigfat
>overheats
>""""luxury"""" is just reusing interior components of other cars

It is exactly what people think of with American cars, you retard