Ecumenical platitudes notwithstanding, can Christianity and Islam truly coexist?

the byzantine-sassanian war you fucking retard

We tolerate crazies when they're few and insignificant.

I don't study this era you asshole. I just wanted to learn some shit today. No need to be a dick.

Stop being historically illiterate

here.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantine–Sasanian_wars#Aftermath

basically this crippled both empires so bad in the long run and allowing the muslims to gain power and swallows them both

>crazies

What if they're committed to an orthodox interpretation of the faith, just extremely zealous?

In the United States we have 'Mormon Fundamentalists'. They differ from regular Mormons in a few ways, most prominently they still practice Polygamy.

'That's Illegal' you might be saying. It is, but all wives after the first wife are not legally binding marriages, so they get around that by just having 'spiritual marriages'.

And so these communities exist, in the united States, practicing polygamy and all sorts of ultra-orthodox customs. Inbred as fuck too, because you can do the math when a handful of men marry all the women.

>LEARN MORE!
OK, tell me more
>WHY DON'T YOU KNOW THIS ALREADY, YOU IDIOT?

Why didn't the two empires sign a treaty, pledging to destroy the rising threat of Islamic Arabs?

I'm sure if faced with the reality that his empire was going to crumble the Sassanid emperor would have converted to Christianity if pushed to by the byzantines to further strengthen the bonds of the treaty.

Could we have had a Christian Middle East if these two empires had come together to destroy Islam? Would they have stood a chance against the up and coming Muslims?

They already gave you the key to being a non-lazy fucker when they said the Byzantines and Sassanids, do you have some sort of mental disability that prevents you from taking that information/keywords and googling them?

Lol they were devout zoroastrians no way they would convert to christianity. You could ask why the byzantines didnt convert to zoroastrianism and you would get the same answer.

Also look at the letter exchange between the caliph omar and the last sasanin king Yazdegerd III

From: Omar Ibn Al Khatab Khalifat Al Muslemin
To: Yazdgird III Shahanshah of Persian Empire

Yazdgird, I see not a fruitful future for you & your nation unless you accept my offer & commit Bei'at (Joining with Khalifat & bringing Islam). Once upon a time your land ruled half the known world but what has it come down to now? Your troops are defeated in all fronts & your nation is bound to collapse. I offer you a way to rescue yourself. Start praying to a mono God, a single union God, the only God who created everything in the universe. We bring you & the world his message, he who is the true God. Stop your Fire Worship, command your nation to stop their Fire Worship which is false; join us by joining the truth. Worship Allah O Akbar the only true God, The creator of universe. Worship to Allah & accept Islam as your salvation. End your Pagan ways & your false worships now & bring Islam so you can accept Allah O Akbar as your savior. By doing so, you will find the only way to your survival & peace for Persians. If you know what is best for Ajam (Arabic term for Persians meaning Retarded & Weird), you will choose this path. Bei'at is the only way.

Allah O Akbar
sign,
Khalifat Al Muslemin
Omar Ibn Al Khatab

From: Shah of Shahs, Shah of Persia and Beyond, Shah of many Kingdoms, Shah of Aryans and Non Aryans, Shah of Persians and many other races as well as Arabs, Shahanshah of Persian Empire, Yazdgird III Sassanid

To: Omar Ibn Al Khatab, Khalifat of Tazi (Persian term for Arabs,

In the name of Ahura Mazda, creator of Life & Intelligence,

You in your letter wrote that you want to direct us towards your God, Allah O Akbar, without having the true knowledge of who we are & what do we worship! It is amazing that you occupy the position of Khalifat (Ruler) of Arabs, yet your knowledge is the same as a lowly Arab rambler, roaming in deserts of Arabia, & same as a desert tribal man!

"Little Man" ( mardak) you offer me to worship a united & single God without knowing that it has been thousands of years that Persians worship the mono God & they pray to him Five Times a day! In this land of culture & art this has been the normal path of life for years.

When we established the tradition of hospitality & good deeds in the world & we waved the flag of "Good Thoughts, Good Words, Good Deeds" in our hands, you & your ancestors were roaming the deserts, eating Lizards for you had nothing else to feed yourselves & burying your innocent daughters alive (an old Arab tradition, cause they preferred male children to female)!

azi people have no value for God's creatures! You behead God's children, even the POWs (Prisoners of War), Rape Women, bury your daughters alive, attack the Caravans, mass murder, kidnap people's wives & steal their property! Your hearts are made of stone, we condemn all these Evil which you do. How can you teach us Godly Ways when you commit these action?

Cont.

You tell me to stop my Fire Worship! Us, Persians see the Love of Creator & power of inventor in the light of Sun & warmth of Fire. Lights & Warmth of the Sun & Fire makes us see the light of truth & warmens our hearts to the creator & to one another. It helps us to be kind to one another, it enlightens us & makes us to keep Mazda's Flame, alive in our hearts. Our lord is Ahura Mazda & it is strange that you people also, just discovered him & named him Allah O Akbar! But we are not the same as you, we are not in the same level as you. We help other human being, we spread love among humanity, we spread Good throughout the Earth, we have been spreading our culture but in respect for other cultures throughout the whole world for thousands of years, yet you in the name of Allah invade other men's land! You mass murder the people, create famine, fear & poverty for others, you create Evil in the name of Allah. who is responsible for all this catastrophe?

Is it Allah who commands you to murder, pillage & to destroy?
Is it you the followers of Allah who do this in his name?
Or Is it both?

You have risen from heat of the deserts & burnt out infertile lands with no resources, you want to teach people the love of God by your military campaigns & the power of your Swords! You are Desert Savages, yet you want to teach Urban people like us who lived in the cities for thousands of years, the love of God! We have thousands of years of culture behind us, a powerful tool indeed! Tell us? With all your military campaigns, barbarianism, murder & pillage in the name of Allah O Akbar, what have you taught to this Muslim Army? What knowledge have you taught the Muslim that you also insist on teaching it to non Muslim? What culture have you learned from your Allah, now that you want to force-teach it to others?

Cont.

Alas, Oh Alas...... that today our Persian Armies of Ahura have been defeated from your recently Allah Worshiping Armies; Now, our people have to worship the same God, the same Five times a day, but forced by the sword to call him Allah & pray to him in Arabic, cause your Allah only understands Arabic!

I suggest, you & your gang of bandits pack up & move back to your deserts where they are used to live. Take them back where they used to the burning heat of the sun, tribal life, eating Lizards & drinking Camel Milk. I forbid you to let your band of thieves loose in our fertile lands, civilized cities & our glorious nation. Don't turn these "beasts with hearts of stone" loose, to mass murder our people, kidnap our women & children, rape our wives & send our daughters to Mecca as slaves! Don't let them do these crimes in the name of Allah O Akbar, put a stop to your criminal behavior.

Aryans are forgiving, warm, hospitable, & decent people and everywhere they went, they have spread seeds of friendship, love, knowledge & truth; therefore, they shall not punish you & your people for your pirate ways & criminal acts.

I beg you to remain with your Allah O Akbar in your deserts & do not move close to our civilized cities, for your believes are "Much Fearful" & your behavior is "Most Barbaric"!

sign,

Yazdgird III Sassanid

These are all fake.

How do you know?

Because its doctored and made up, and this is coming from a half-Persian. Yadzgerd recieved letters of threats and demands of submission from Omar, but he never corresponded back. On top of that, the claim it was real and the original copy was contained in the British Museum of Oriental History is proven to be untrue as several attempts to find the evidence there has the British stating no such letter exists. Same with any Iranian one for that matter not possessing said letter, and the fact many of the terms in said letter are based off modern slang such as the term Tazi which doe snot mean the same thing to Arabs in medieval times.

Ah alright. good to know then wont post it in the future now. Btw whats your other half?

>What are alawites

Because several respected historians and Iranianologists have outed it, including Touraj Darayee whose an expert on Parthian/Arsacid and especially Sassanid history have stated its made up and fake.

>Ecumenical platitudes notwithstanding, can Christianity and Islam truly coexist?

Sure, but Islam will always attempt to subjugate and destroy others via dhimmi status. Technically yes, in reality no.
Pray that all Muslims stop worshiping Satan and instead realize that Christ is God made flesh and that they sincerely repent for worshiping the Devil as a god.

why would we worship someone who was born from anal rape? come on sell me on this dead kike

>Christ
>God

What? You're not making any sense.

T. Mohammedian

>If you know what is best for Ajam (Arabic term for Persians meaning Retarded & Weird)

Why did the Arabs have such a lowly view of the Persians?

>tfw this great, self respecting empire who refused to change to the religion of the "desert barbarians" has been transformed into a modern-day theocracy based around said religion

Sometimes history sucks.

The term originally was a generic sleight against non-Arabs meaning anyone who couldn't speak Arabic. A whole slew of languages share this meme where their own speakers are referred to as those who can speak 'the' language and where outsiders are called mute, dumb, or unintelligible.

Think of the word barbarian for example.

Goddammit, I read all of that.

No. t. anyone with any sensibilities to not insert paganism into an omnipotent being.

>Mortal
>Son
>of
>God

Christians hold Jesus to literally be god.

The Arabic term for Persians is farsi

Mohamet was a prophet of Lucifer.

>t. Arius the accurst

>fully man, fully God
>two wills
What's so difficult for you to understand about this divine mystery?

>understand
>mystery

Never change, christcucks

>fully man
>fully God
Nice meme, pagan.

Not a Christian or a Muslim or a faggot cuck Abrahamic follower, mate.

the world was better off before jews universalized their YHWH death/slave cult via their tribesmen yeshua, gentile relations about spirituality were limited to shrugging or finding reflections between one another's gods/beliefs - ala the romans and germanics where tacitus among other roman historians describes 'cults of mercury' among the tribes across the rhine. paganism's default position is an ethnic-faith heavily themed on ancestry for the most part, so why would you want to worship the gods of an entirely alien group of people?

when non-abrahamic spiritualities became universal like hellenism seemed to branch out into, or buddhism originally was, they just syncretized with other religions/spiritualities

christian jews and then arab muslims ruined gentile relations in this way

Pagan? Excuse you. Christ is both fully God and fully man. This is known. Who are you, Arius? Lol

>posts a huge /pol/-tier rant against Jews
>that's wrong you fucking retard
>gosh y u gotta be rude ;_;

The status of "Jesus" is easily resolved. You may not think so, but it is already resolved, humanity will get there eventually.

Both faiths are not divided, the mass scale of things, it seems "everyone needs to be a Christian" and "everyone needs to be a Muslim" but really, these are giant propaganda forces. Sure, if you have a faith, you want everyone to know why you believe, but, if you go online, TV, or listen to radicals, they will say "Everyone in the next ___ years will convert to ____ because ____ and those who don't convert are going downstairs where it is very hot" which is one way to look at their prophecies, but very bias and limited to the other

>Christ is fully God
Nope, faggot pagan.