Hello Veeky Forums, I am seeking advice on how to stop being a pussy when it comes to opening up the throttle on my 600. I can do a second gear roll on all the way to the rev limiter pretty comfortably but first gear still scares the fucking shit out of me. I cracked it open and the thing revved up so fast. Not to mention that the acceleration kinda gets my leg out of position from the shifter so I have to re-adjust my body in the midst of breaking the sound barrier. I also get a cramp sometimes in my left hip, I guess from my body tensing up.
Basically, how do I get better at accelerating hard?
Lift yourself up using the pegs a bit so your ass is light in the seat, lean forward a bit, and give it WOT. It's a 600 so you're not really going all that fast.
Git gud and practice it.
Jeremiah Lee
600 not all that fast.
my 600 does over 100kmh in 1st gear. it has 6 gears. but yeah 250kmh isn't fast at all i agree
moron
Blake Ward
I ride a literbike you daft cunt. My first gear ends at 160kmh, 6th gear runs up to 330kmh, and it accelerates faster than your shitbike even with the longer gearing.
I can pin it in 1st no problem, roll off a bit when the front comes up, and keep my bike going.
Quit being a fucking pussy and learn to handle your bike.
Eli Hernandez
Is a 600 not a powerful motorcycle? Maybe to much power, start of with something smaller mayhaps? Until you got the confidence and feeling for your bike.
Brandon Brown
I don't think there's really a strategy man, just keep giving it a little more until you feel comfortable. Also, make sure your tires are warmed up before you push it too hard.
Logan King
People say "oh, just start on a 250" but it isn't the same thing. The throttle response is completely different. The riding position is completely different. The bike geometry is completely different. You really can't prepare for a supersport in any way other than simply riding a supersport
Jackson Campbell
>in the midst of breaking the sound barrier
Is this hyperbole, a motorcycle term, or are you doing 340 mph
Gavin Nguyen
Go2tracklol, breathe, practice, foam roll/lacrosse ball/adjust pegs (and make sure you're not dehydrated or low on salt) for cramps
>340 mph >In dry air at 20 °C (68 °F), the sound barrier is reached when an object moves at a speed of 343 metres per second (about 767 mph, 1234 km/h or 1,125 ft/s).
There's such a thing as carryover, and there's a reason the best road racers spend their childhoods on minibikes and dirt bikes and their offseasons flat-tracking and, for that matter, riding bicycles. Specificity is a thing, but it is not the only thing.
Jeremiah Collins
Put your dick on the tank, grip with your thighs and fucking gun it
Ryder Sanders
I have the poor Korean's version of a GS650. Is there much of a difference between the sport-touring and gixxer600?
50 extra ccs doesn't mean much, but I can roll full throttle 1st through 6th, and unless I lean wrong or hit a bump the front end won't lift. And it tops out at 180kph, drag limited (and I'm not a very big guy). Downhill it tops near 195 gearing limited. Also a 6spd.
What makes the 600 so much faster dispite taller gearing?
Justin Gomez
>GS650 Meant SV650.
Angel Myers
This is pretty much the best I can do. How pathetic?
>What makes the 600 so much faster dispite taller gearing? more horsepower/higher redline
Jeremiah Davis
op is the reason i will never buy a used super
Brayden Brown
Put your ass back in the seat so it rests against the backstop, put the balls of your feet on the pegs, lean forward, and gradually crack open the throttle. Oh, and do it on a stretch of road where there are no likely obstacles.
Jose King
it's a race bike you fuckwad...what do you think people are going to do with them? putz around at 2k rpm all day?
Eli Davis
>race bikes hit the limiter in first and second gear all day
Anthony Kelly
Is it just the cylinder configuration, though? Or is it more aggressive cams? Better flowing heads? All of the above?
Nathaniel Stewart
displacement senpai, displacement
Mason Sanders
>cylinder configuration Yeah, and also cylinder dimensions--racier engines are usually a bit oversquare.
>more aggressive cams yup, I'm pretty sure
> Better flowing heads? donno
Noah Bennett
>600 faster than a 650 >because displacement What.
Logan Cook
to add to , one occasionally hears of a race-prepped 650 twin over 100hp as compared to 60-70 stock, so the engines have quite a bit of potential. (of course, 600s in a similar state of tune have even more.).
Isaiah Collins
Makes sense, thanks. I'm having troubles finding the torque curves for similar years of those machines, but I have to assume the 650 is just low end and lacks top end (which I can feel on my 650) but the 600 revs higher and flows better at those RPMs.
Question arises because I'm going to be replacing this Hyotrash Gt650 soon and wanted to know what the objective difference was between bike types, engine wise. Think I might still go with a sport-touring. I don't race and speeding is illegal so I prefer the low end grunt and the thumping great noise.
Jack Collins
smaller cylinders rev higher producing more power.
thats basically it and the reason more than 4 cylinders have been cut from racing.
Joshua Stewart
Also I cant fucking fathom tuning 4 carbs, adjusting 8 (or 16?) valves, getting lower fuel economy, and also the purchase cost when it's not a race bike, or a 2nd bike. I don't even do the "suggested inspections" on the half of that I have now.. Valve inspections every 4k km? You have to remove the rad on the V2 just to get at the plugs, fuck that.
It's mostly for touring 100+km and commuting 30-40km here and there.
Andrew Gonzalez
>implying hitting the limiter every now and then is an issue at all
Jose Harris
it is if you never leave second gear which is what happens to 93% of super bikes that are on craigslist "for sale or trade for a cruiser, low k!! brand new fairings!!!"
Austin White
Who talked about never leaving second gear? If you warm up the engine properly every time and keep on top of maintenance, then there is absolutely nothing wrong with occasionally wringing out gears to the limiter.
Carter Hughes
>Valve inspections every 4k km hwot
my sv650 says valves every 24k km/15k miles. You sure you're reading the right line in the chart?
Adam Wood
>If you warm up the engine properly every time and keep on top of maintenance if we're talking about street-rossi squid kids, that's a big if
otoh if we're talking wera guys then yeah
Thomas Wood
it's the decel in second gear from 15000rpm that i'm worried about read the op post again and if you still don't get it then you are now also the reason i will never buy a used super bike
Please explain the mechanism responsible for "being bad for the engine" when the engine is revved high. I'll give you a tip: there isn't one. This preconceived notion of wear and tear because you're making the engine run at full capacity is just fabricated by the human mind. It's not like you are going to change the properties of metal by using the engine within the capacity it was designed.
Luke Cooper
He is too pussy to go WOT in first gear. That's literally it. How you are constructing engine abuse from that is beyond me. I'm glad bitches like you don't buy used superbikes because that means they are cheaper for me.
Ethan Sanders
Yup. Not really sure why. They don't suggest that an adjustment needs to be made, but they do say inspect ever 4k. Ridiculous.
Jordan Perez
it's not bad for the engine it's bad for the transmission
Luke Howard
>poor Korean's SV650 It's actually a Hyosung Gt650. I'm sure it's possible on my bike too, but the coolant pipes are moulded rubber and are very stiff, which means moving the rad at all is difficult without draining the system. For the price of coolant I'd just remove the rad and inspect under the heads while I'm in there.
Adrian Wood
>being afraid of your bike
This is why you start on a tamer bike like an SV or Ninja 650.
