This is honestly a bit of a sticking point with Conqueror. If it's a mode such as Dominion, and your team is behind which means YOU are the one who needs to clean off the point off as fast as possible, you're at a disadvantage.
The best way I find to open up a turtle is to whiff a shield charge a million miles short - where you'll actually be able to recover if they attempt to open on you. You can also try a side dodge into shield bash, but this risks getting GB'd.
>unironically using your wound up heavy
The charged heavy has exactly one usage: punishing people in Xv1 gank situations where you're the ganker, not the gankee. The moment the enemy does ANYTHING that isn't a dodge away from you, aka they attempt to attack one of your teammates in a panic like most people getting ganked will do at some point, or if they get GB'd/grabbed, you let your charged attack go and hit them for a huge amount of damage.
If you ever use it when you are the focus of the enemy you deserve to get parried.
>techs your GBs
You didn't do your homework. Your Superior Block passive aka mini-parries on standard blocks gives you confirmed untechable GBs on all heavy attacks and most "special" attacks, but basically on no light attacks (Conqueror and Berserker weirdly can be confirm-GB'd on blocked lights right now but that's explicitly being patched out for being retarded).
>side dashes your shield attacks
Be careful about using your unlocked dash to initiate, only use it if you're decently sure the opponent won't see it coming (around a corner or you're ganking them from off their camera). The dash-bash is specifically used to counter unblockable heavies, like Kensei's overhead, you don't use it by itself. The heavy-bash is usually chainable off of a wallstun and SOMETIMES can be used as a mixup when you pretend to whiff a heavy in the space between you too, but you often end up just eating their counterattack for free, so I wouldn't recommend it.
Zachary Anderson
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Gabriel Anderson
>LB at a disadvantage
Kek
Carson Davis
yo where'd those wardens come from?
Connor Murphy
>check damage sheet Why do I play conqueror again?
Connor Evans
And the others are on the exact same level, as I stated.
Benjamin Sanders
/fhg/ apparently
Daniel Young
Please guys, lets just get along this time. The whining the past 15 hours from both sides has gone one way too long.
Matthew Allen
Because conqueror is arguably the strongest character in the game if you're not a complete retard?
Jayden Peterson
valkyrie, raider and berserker are just as shit as lawbringer
David Edwards
Warden is the only hero that requires an actual level of skill to be good
Jaxson Lopez
please explain how (without memes)
Carson Hall
As a supreme conqueror elite, can I bother you with how you would deal with conquerors as another class?
Their sheer turtle and chip ability manages to fuck me to no end unless I play nonstop feint GBs.
Kevin Evans
So basically you literally cannot damage an enemy unless they heavy into your shield and you confirm GB into light?
What a shitty character
Christopher King
Play Kensei
Jackson Russell
no bad matchups
impossible to approach a good one safely
Wyatt Watson
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Carson Gutierrez
any good high level youtube channels\streams?
Leo Rivera
His wound up heavy is the best tool he has, it does so much damage and is useful at tricking idiots.
Henry Morgan
Zerker is fine, Valk is so-so but her toolbox makes up for it, and she's going to be solid again after the buff.
I agree with raider though, haven't found a good use for them yet.
Christopher Baker
>Valkyrie and Berserker >bad You sweet summer child
Samuel Clark
out of the actually viable characters he's the most fun
Nolan Anderson
Is there a fix for fullscreen yet?
Aaron Stewart
>no bad matchups pk, nobushi, shoguki >impossible to approach a good one safely what could a conq possibly do to make approaching dangerous? (except light attack which is slow as fuck)
Oliver Cruz
I'm torn between fucking hating valkyrie and loving her. She has like 90% of my playtime but I genuinely don't like playing her - the only reason I do is because I know how to. I'm not sure if I can keep up with this emotional rollercoaster anymore. Wat do guys
Sebastian Perez
Lol holy shit imagine believing this
Asher Harris
hahahahahahHAHAHAHAHAHAA
Lincoln Rogers
>>unironically using your wound up heavy you can use it if you read an incoming guardbreak, which isn't an uncommon thing to have thrown at you if you're turtling
Juan Turner
Peacekeeper without being able to rely on guardbreaks is actually somewhat challenging to play. Her standard bleeds are tiny pecks compared to the soon to be unbugged guardbreak which sucks that they're reverting that.
Jonathan Williams
Hilarious. Is this what Warden mains really think?
Aaron Thomas
Why don't you like playing her?
Maybe the buff will make you enjoy her more.
Is the bug-free GB that strong?
Mason Davis
she's getting buffed dude, if that's not fate unyielding right there...
Elijah Price
Use the most versatile weapon ever created instead
Owen Gray
whatever makes you feel better about being bad at the game
Jayden Rogers
Conqueror is busted man, in 4v4 and duel modes. He can stall out anybody in the game, TOD combo with a charged up flail parry, and can harass with lights incredibly well. I was Rep 3 with Conqueror during the Beta, I know how bullshit he is.
Alexander Bell
I've been playing duel all morning only using that attack and I've been trying to read oncoming attacks. It works almost every time. t.peacekeeper main
Ian Morales
Valkyrie: >no damage >light counterattacks are worthless (they're blocked) >no fucking damage >have I already mentioned that she doesn't deal any fucking damage?
Berserker: >can't combo light attacks >no range >no health >possibly the most limited moveset in the game
Xavier Green
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William Bennett
Mege has those high level warden videos. You can keep an eye on Tru3ta1ent. I've watched him stream DS pvp a lot and he often ends up being good at competetive games. Right now he's mediocre I'd say.
Dylan Hill
t. thinks a mid tier at best hero is better than Warden, PK, Orochi, Kensei, etc
Justin Flores
since i have a rep 3 character, does that mean i can switch to another and get epics on that?
Jaxson Sullivan
Unbugged PK grab and triple shank deals about 33% of a Warden's HP. It's equivelant to a Shugoki charged heavy and shitter PKs rely on it hard. Good PKs master that deflect light bleed into heavy into light bleed.
Jackson Sanders
reposting youtube.com/watch?v=fVecAjlIkYQ&t=25s if you're having trouble with parrying roadhog or keep getting hit by invisible lagstrikes, it's not you or lag, it's just a """tech"""
Zachary Russell
>Just faced the only legitimately nice PK player I've seen yet
She fucking rekt me the first two rounds then I managed to turn it around. And she said Good Fight, which I don't think any of them has done up until now.
Also holy shit, at rep 1 the gear starts to get ridiculous, she looked straight out of Warhammer.
Landon Wilson
So I'm Rep 3 Warden, and I want the Fendrel Helm because I like how it looks. What will give me better odds of getting it, 400 steel armor packs or 500 steel premium packs?
Christopher Morgan
Name one thing that makes Lawbringer good, I'll wait.
Henry Clark
What other games do you play /fhg/?
Need something else to remove my frustration on a lose streak.
Owen Harris
t. roachie/Nobushi
John Peterson
I love the style of the whole kit but she's just really weak against what feels like 80% of the duel mode queue(assassins and Nobushis). She's amazing in 4v4 and dom but those modes are cancerous as fuck.
Why does PK attract some of the most awful people?
Evan Parker
>Conquerors and Warlords who play passively and constantly full guard >Only attack when they guard your attack
Holy fuck I hate these people and I can't believe they're nerfing guard breaks.
Jackson Johnson
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Easton Martin
Actually I'm a Conq main, friend. If you think Conq is actually good at high levels of play you're sorely mistaken. You're probably crushing shitters which is what Conq does. At high levels he has absolutely no tools to deal with competent players. He can't feint unless you count his all-guard cancel, and he has only one (1) unblockable that's just a worse version of Warden shoulder charge.
Landon Walker
That's good to know, I only ever use the GB triple for people trying to pussy out.
>Good PKs master that deflect light bleed into heavy into light bleed. For heavy into light bleed do you mean a full heavy then heavy-light bleed feint or just a straight heavy-light bleed feint?
I normally do the deflect then feint bleed.
Christian Brooks
I used to play For Honor Open Beta
Ryder Jenkins
> Log in. > My fellow weebs are at the Vikings gates.
SOON. THE DREAM IS NEARER.
James Powell
Yes >enemy light spamming >throw off cliff >enemy turtling >throw off cliff >enemy being aggressive >throw off cliff >enemy not near cliff >throw them until they are near a cliff >enemy trys to have fun >throw off cliff
Julian Garcia
I main Warden and I can tell you that he is extremely easy to play, you only need skill when you're facing a feintmaster
Levi Moore
assassins do not fit the flow of the game and should be removed next patch
Jayden Morris
nothing for honor is the first game I've actually had fun with in years, haven't touched anything else since I bought it
Tyler Morales
>Double-hit unparriable unblockable W H A T
Christopher Thomas
YOU ARE A RAIDER, LEGENDARY YOU ARE A RAIDER, LEGENDARY YOU ARE A RAIDER, LEGENDARY
Ayden Allen
I tried playing other classes. I went back to Conqueror after getting BTFO by them when trying to clean them off of control points. I wish I were kidding - the Superior Block passive is just that frustrating.
Hardly. Your light is fast enough that it's difficult to parry. As long as you don't keep attacking literally the same direction with it over and over again, you can get free damage in with it.
Your block passive still helps against lights. If you use a light attack immediately after making a block, and your opponent tries to use a light attack immediately themselves, you will almost always outrace them, get the hit, and interrupt them. (It's failed me a very few times, but I'll ascribe that to me fucking up somehow or netcode being awful or something. Or maybe some characters are weird - but it consistently outraces Peacekeeper lights, so there's that.)
Between this and your confirmed GBs on heavies, you can keep most players unsure of just how to open up your bullshit defense throughout an entire match. No guarantees on rematches, though.
Yeah, you can certainly trick idiots with it. But I've found that it doesn't consistently "release" fast enough to interrupt GB attempts as stated by . It certainly can, and it's hilarious when it happens, but it's not consistent, and a GB while you're charged up is untechable. It's not worth the risk unless you're in a big hurry, and even then it's one of the last tricks I'd resort to.
TOD combo?
Ryder Nguyen
Her player base has improved both in skill and general attitude since faggot kids learned her guardbreak is "broken" and dropped her.
Austin Ross
smut retards should fuck off
Connor Cruz
you talk to much
William Martinez
>tfw le war bitch keeps only winning shit because of crappy writing
i better get to ice this cunt
John Perry
I MUST DEFEAT YOU >I MUST DEFEAT YOU I MUST DEFEAT YOU >I MUST DEFEAT YOU I MUST DEFEAT YOU >I MUST DEFEAT YOU I MUST DEFEAT YOU >I MUST DEFEAT YOU I MUST DEFEAT YOUI MUST DEFEAT YOUI MUST DEFEAT YOUI MUST DEFEAT YOUI MUST DEFEAT YOUI MUST DEFEAT YOUI MUST DEFEAT YOUI MUST DEFEAT YOUI MUST DEFEAT YOUI MUST DEFEAT YOUI MUST DEFEAT YOUI MUST DEFEAT YOUI MUST DEFEAT YOUI MUST DEFEAT YOUI MUST DEFEAT YOUI MUST DEFEAT YOUI MUST DEFEAT YOUI MUST DEFEAT YOUI MUST DEFEAT YOUI MUST DEFEAT YOUI MUST DEFEAT YOUI MUST DEFEAT YOUI MUST DEFEAT YOUI MUST DEFEAT YOUI MUST DEFEAT YOUI MUST DEFEAT YOUI MUST DEFEAT YOUI MUST DEFEAT YOU
Eli Flores
You should literally only buy premium packs. I can't find a use for fullguarding at all
Jordan Brooks
Reminder that we have a discord for those shitty orders and not feeling so alone all the time
>the game isn't broken guys you're just not gud enough
Yeah I guess I won't be buying this for a few months
Wyatt Brown
/fhg/ how do I beat a reactive conqueror turtle as orochi, peacekeeper or nobushi?
They're seriously tilting me
Bentley Myers
The higher your rep, the higher chance of getting heroics as non-guarenteed drops. Go with the 500 packs for now, but after you hit rep 4 go with the armor packs. I have almost every single Heroic with my Lawbringer and it's dope as fuck.
Dylan Ortiz
Feints and mix-ups
Elijah Anderson
the later you buy it, the more cancer techs will be discovered
Brandon Jenkins
pls respond
Xavier Gray
light attacks dummy
Luke Robinson
I'm a newbie. What do i do during combat, mimick the ennemy guard ?
Spoiler The samurai and rebel knights gather at her fortress, siege her, kill her. She had no contingency plan or great last fuck you at all. Just "ha ha now there's going to be eternal war". Not like there wasn't already anyway.
Benjamin Ross
Valkyrie: >she comboes and has the ability to bleed without being a cunt >light counterattacks should be a rare occurrence don't rely on them Berserker: >fastest fucking heavy attack in the game >be aggressive >dodge They're good
Angel Watson
I have like 1600 hours in Siege but got bored with it a couple months ago, just isn't really fun anymore. Played Planetside 2 for a couple months. I log onto Fightcade every couple weeks to do some long sets of 3rd Strike. Other than that I just replay some SP games I really like once or twice a year, like Deus Ex or Fable.
Jordan Jackson
>oroboro
Lmao
Dylan Roberts
>Dominion >Come across a PK >Doesn't complain about deaths, just posts sex jokes about being manhandled
100% it was one of you fuckers in this thread, you horny buggers.
Noah Hernandez
>how do I beat an honest character with my cancer cheese character? Heck off
Nathaniel Wood
>tfw you're not the only conq with an american flag emblem Another great thing to note about the charged is that you can parry with it, and counter really quickly with a side heavy
Easton Anderson
>Samurai and Knights team up to kill the actual threat >Vikangz run in and ruin everything starting more war for 7 years >Attempts at peace happen again >Vikang punches the Knight in the face and goes to try and kill him Why can't the Vikings not be savages?