So I doubt this si the right spot to ask this, but I'll give it a shot

So I doubt this si the right spot to ask this, but I'll give it a shot.

I'm on a career path that'll let me get my mitts on my dream car, the BNR32 GT-R. If possible, I'd want to fully restore/modify mine in the same way as Singer Porsches ( petrolicious.com/singer-vehicle-design-s-rob-dickinson-on-building-a-restomod-empire )
However, Singer Porsche obviously only works on Porsches. What shops would be a good place to look for that sort of work on Nissans?

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>gtr
>dream car
Boyracer weeb detected.

i mean...any decent body/paint shop?

It's more than that; Singer rebuilds the 911's with period correct-looking modern parts, with hand stitched custom interiors.
The tricky part would be the motor: Singer ships in a crate flat-6 from a baseline modern 911; I'd need a brand-new or refurb'd/built RB26.

>ruin an R32 with hipster garbage

why

Not worth the effort or money to restore also have fun waiting years for them to source the parts put it together like you want it and such. Heres a tip get forza for 60$ and you can get 10 bnr32s without all the regret and all of the fun.

>hand-stiched leather custom interior
>"hipster"
>?????

Oh look another American who learned about the gtr a year ago

>bnr32
Is a gtr, you don't have to say bnr32 gtr Lmao just makes you look like a clueless fool who learns about cars from Wikipedia or jalponik

Singer is just overpriced hipster shit for people who think gaudy mods are tasteful

what country are you in? i own and have owned my share of JDM vehicles and am located in Canada, years back i had a 1990 HCR32. if youre in Canada too i know a few garages

ive always gone by chassis, you say R32 and all the 2 foot long scraggly beard fucks think you mean the Volkswagen R32 and you just say GTR and everyone thinks of shitty R35.

>ive always gone by chassis, you say R32 and all the 2 foot long scraggly beard fucks think you mean the Volkswagen R32 and you just say GTR and everyone thinks of shitty R35.

This.

>Oh look another American who learned about the gtr a year ago

Troll or not, I shall state I've been yearning for a BNR32 since 2007.

pic related

>a person who follows the latest trends and fashions, especially those regarded as being outside the cultural mainstream.

yeah Singer is definitely hipster garbage for faux-fancy faggots

...awright, by that definition, I guess Singer is "hipster".
Either way, doesn't change how I like their work.

>I'd want to fully restore/modify mine in the same way as Singer Porsches
But it already comes that way? Or do you mean something like making the interior resemble that of an R35.

If you just want it kept as stock appearing as possible, your local shop should be up to task. If you want custom shit you'd have to look around for specialists.

Lots of shit will have to come from Japan. It's going to cost more than you'd think just to keep it running. Don't take it to ethnics; only whites and Japs.

Bnr32 is gtr
Hcr32 is the gtst

People who say bnr32 gtr are just saying gtr twice

I'm fully aware of how pricey this sorta job would be. It's the endgame for me, as far as modifying my BNR32 goes.

thanks dad

Go and check out hardpark meets and whatnot, then. If you see someone with work similar to what you have in mind ask them about who did the job.

Just find your towns local skyline specialists, get them to refresh all suspension as new. Any decent engine shop can build a quality RB and then you just find a customs shop for the interior.

SYing that just makes you look like a non weeb who has never watched initial d or best motoring videos.

Go away normie.

What you're looking for Nismo Omori Factory. They already do exactly what you're looking for.

It is expensive as fuck. 6 speed Getrag is 10k before labor. To change the final drive ratio to something more reasonable you're looking at another 1500 dollars in parts (3.692 is Tomei, 3.917 is Nismo).

Their complete S2 or R2 engine will be 20-30k because it's a complete engine rebuild service. I personally do not believe they are worth it here but they will do it if you want it.

They also offer chassis restoration services. If you are willing to pay they will strip the entire car down to the bare frame, blast off all of the rust and paint, weld new reinforcements and even add dry carbon reinforcements in critical locations and repaint the entire chassis to keep it from rusting. They will reupholster the interior as well but it's nothing too crazy here, just new seats and general refurbishing instead of doing hand-stitched leather on every surface or something like Singer.

They also fit things like the R35 Brembo brakes to the R32 with an adapter kit. I personally do not think this is worth it because other companies make adapters, but if you want one company to do everything they will also do this.

bnr34gt-r.com/2017/02/gt-r-magazine-omori-factory-special.html

It's important to note that Nismo will only work on cars still registered in Japan. You will have to find a clean R32 in Japan and get the importer to do the legwork to get them to work on it. You will have to wait quite a long time for all of the work to be done. But at the end of the day you will have what you're looking for.

Pic related, Nismo Omori's R32 demo car, BNR32 "Grand Touring Spec".

>The BNR32 Grand Touring Car is based on a 1994 V-spec II model with 160,000 Km on the odometer: the philosophy of the build was "bringing back to life" and refreshing the R32, which is obviously fitting considered that is by far the oldest of the three. Omori Factory didn't merely fit the whole Nismo catalog in the car, but rather focused on strengthening critical areas and improving parts of concern.

>Each build starts from a completely stripped down shell, repainted in a gorgeous shade of Dark Metallic Grey and extra layers of clear coat for an added sense of deepness to the paint - absolutely beautiful. Unique features of the R32 build are an incredibly expensive carbon-aluminum honeycomb panel positioned in the rear back of the frame to increase rigidity, alcantara upholstered interior trim and a long series of enhancements to the suspension and chassis. A complete S2 Engine is the powerplant of choice, while stopping power is provided by R35 brakes.

Just do it all yourself faggot

You'll learn a shit ton of invaluable lessons and skills and have a bigger dick for it too

Seriously, I own a fucking 911 and would NEVER trust any fucking cuck to work on it unless I trusted them enough to 69 without giving me AIDs.

Do you really want some fucking wage slave from a 5 star, three reviews, local Yelp recommended body shop to be alone and actually fucking having permission to fuck with your prized possession?

No, you fucking don't.

Poorfag

>I'm on a career path that'll let me get my mitts on my dream car, the BNR32 GT-R
I'm not sure I understand what you mean by this. You can buy one for around $25k in the US right now, today. They're neither expensive nor hard to get, although I suppose the argument can be made they're overpriced.

i work opposite one, its called the gtr shop in wingate uk

well, i think the nissan skyline range was a bit too cheap to have OEM hand-stitched custom leather interiors but most upholstery shops will be able to do that for you

r32s still arent that old so if you get a low mileage clean stock one there wont be a lot of rebuilding to do

as for the motor, again if you get a low mileage one then i dont see why you would want to replace/rebuild the motor, but if you really do youd probably have to go will all custom parts which would be rather pricey

my dick

buying a 30 y.o sports car isnt something most people can afford to do

...

The problem isn't really acquisition, it's getting it insured and keeping it in good working order.

And dealing with all the fucking problems that the RB26 has. You could write a book on all the stupid shit that is in the Skyline GT-R design.

And after everything you will end up with a car that is barely competitive with an Evo 9.

I love these cars but fuck me it is a headache

Would really like to do that for the one I'm buying next week but the prices are outrageous + bringing the car to Omori must be a pain too

Yeah, they want like 20k for a mild chassis refresh. I saw a quote as high as 60k.

Really though, I don't think there's really anything that can get close. They did actual R&D and they're the only ones that are going to know where to place reinforcements. A normal body shop can blast and paint sure but it's not like they're going to know how to do what they did for the demo cars.

I can understand the reasons for the price, plus you get to have your car fixed by the legendary Omori factory but I think that sadly, I'll never have that much money to spend for a project car :/

I'm hoping to be able to go to them for some of their more exclusive services for chassis restoration if it's actually worth it. I think as far as engine goes and the other parts I'm not willing to pay for it. Their engines are nothing special.

Yeah the chassis rehaul thing is really appealing because you're getting a nearly factory-finish car but everything else can be done for less money if you're ready to work a bit yourself

>buying a 30 y.o sports car isnt something most people can afford to do
There are a ton of $25k+ cars on the road. The average cost of a new car is around $33,500.

>The problem isn't really acquisition, it's getting it insured and keeping it in good working order.
I don't think either of those are special items either though. Insurance isn't a problem if you go the classic or antique route (definitely need the car appraised if you want it to be covered for anything meaningful). Parts aren't terribly expensive or hard to come by, just slow to ship if it's something GT-R specific. Some of the importers are very helpful getting parts too, if you can't find something on your own. As long as you don't try to daily drive it, it's not much more difficult to own than any other classic.

I almost bought one back in November. Ended up changing my mind after that, but I did a ton of research and talked to my insurance company about it before moving on a car.

What's your dream car buddy?

I have nothing going on in my life and if things work out I'll be making 60k/yr after taxes. Anything after retirement/emergency/healthcare savings and basic necessities is going to this project. I don't have a girlfriend and I'm probably going to be living with my parents for a while because they're getting older and need help around the house. I don't have any student loan debt and I already have my own car that I'm going to drive until it explodes

It's going to be retarded to do this but after years of getting my shit kicked in for electrical engineering and being utterly alone the entire time I realized that I was probably going to kill myself if I couldn't find a reason to keep working at something in life.

Yeah if you have the opportunity to spend money on something like that, go for it

I'm just worried that I'm not going to like the end result. I really enjoyed a basically stock R32 GTR, it was comfy. Honestly reminds me of an M3 but without the complicated driving experience that comes with modern cars.

Just go to a fucking decent upholstery store if you want leather seats like God damn it's not something out of this world or anything
Like seriously

Yeah I test drove mine and I really liked the torque and powerband, really smooth yet savage and the interior has this nice 90's comfyness. But by what I've seen in vids the end result of the rehaul is almost stock but a lot nicer so you're losing the vintage feel but getting a "modern car" feel

Yeah, I think it's the relative lack of insulation. You can hear the turbos spool instead of just exhaust + vague rumbling from the engine bay. I would definitely want a little more power though, probably 2860R-7 or 2859R-9 and HKS VCAM with appropriate camshafts to claw back as much response as possible. I'm debating between Tomei 3.692 final drive and Nismo 3.916 final drive. They're very similar. 3.916 would be a little more responsive but for highway cruising 3.692 is going to be a better balance.

The one i'm buying already has 2 gt28rs turbos, so I'm just going to upgrade cams, oil sump, oil pump, headgasket and cooling to sort all the reliabilty issues and i'm planning to go single turbo and hks superturbo exhaust. Maybe go for better brakes and rim after that, don't know yet. If I had to choose for gear ratio I would have to go for Tomei to get as much usability on the street as possible and maybe go for Tein adaptive coilovers for track use? For the interior might go for a bride fabric hupolstering and some dashboard mat, a nice headunit and soundsystem and replace those damn cracked window seals that cost so much

Single turbo is a pain in the ass, a ton of work to get it working well but if you really care Full Race makes the intake piping for a Borgwarner EFR twin scroll top mount. Tomei only makes sense for Getrag V160. R32/R33 five speed should stay at 4.111 gearing as it's already a fairly widely spaced gears.

Even if you go single with twin scroll I wouldn't get a huge turbo, even the stock RB26 has quite a bit of turbo lag and a big turbo is going to make things worse.

Yeah, i'm getting single turbo but not a monstrous one, I'm not planning to push it further than 450hp for now. So I'm going for nice smooth torque surge and that nice slow spool sound but not massive turbo lag. Dunno if you've seen that motiveDVD single vs twin but I'm going for their "low" power single turbo build. I'm quite a newbie in mechanic so a full transmission swap could be a bit tricky for me but I might consider doing it when I feel like I'm experienced enough to not fuck things up.
The car has a full hicas delete kit so something nice too but i'll have to reinstall the A/C which is a pain in the ass too :D but hey I'm already happy enough that the car is homologated and registered in my country which is very rare here in Belgium

Yeah that's not 450 HP, it's in KW so their turbo was making 580 HP or so to the wheels. You could go smaller and it would be enough power for the chassis.

R32 HICAS is meh but on the later models electric HICAS should be kept.

Honestly I wouldn't bother too much with a new sound system though, just a new head unit for Bluetooth/aux port. It's your car though. I just personally want to make a sleeper.

do what this guy did: speedhunters.com/2017/03/project-33-the-ultimate-interior-upgrade-part-1/

I don't want to make it too modified looking, for sound system I meant new door tweeters and such not big subwoofer in the trunk.
What single turbo do you think is up to make 450whp but could make more with better injection and maybe rebuild internals if I choose to go this way later?
I'm fairly young driver so I don't want to make a rocket in the beginning, just a nice track/street car that's reliable if well maintained

Borgwarner EFR 7163 or EFR 7064 is probably what you want with up to 550 horsepower at the crank. Injector dynamics makes 725cc injectors that are already a ton of fuel and will work up to about 700 horsepower at the crank. 600 wheel horsepower is probably possible with those injectors.

The real limit is the chassis itself. Can't forget that this is a fairly old car and if you put too much power into it you will very rapidly end up with a drag queen.

Ok, thanks man. As for the chassis I wonder if it's even allowed to modify it in any way in my country, we must pass inspection every year so it would mean the car could get banned from driving on public road :/

Also how much custom piping work is needed when converting to single turbo? Because in vids they always have 5 people working on it and it seems so straightforward

Anyone who has experience, how do these things drive?

I test drove one last week, it had been sitting for quite a while so the tyre weren't so good but even so the car feels very planted on the road and even if the ride is quite firm it's not bad for potholes and things like that. At low rpm, the car is very mild and controlled, it cruises really nice on the highway, progressive throttle will give a nice turbo spool with progressive powerband but if you go at it full throttle the acceleration is very strong. The steering rack bushings had just been replaced and it has a really nice feedback, the clutch was a bit heavy but it has been replaced with an exedy clutch so I dont know how stock clutch feels.

wheel specs pls

Those are repainted r33 oem rims

Mine's or Nismo's Omori Factory

Mines is overhyped. They are actually horrible at mapping ECUs.

I'm also speaking of the engine itself. Unless you do a ton of work like variable valve timing and the crazy strategies that companies like BMW are doing where when you let off the throttle they keep the valves open and just disable fuel injection to keep as much air flowing through the turbo you can't put too big a turbo without ruining street performance. I personally think the 28RS turbos are already too big for street use even if they're great on the track.

You usually buy the piping. It's just pipe but if you don't know how to set it up you will impact performance. If you can keep the MAF sensors that would be best for a street car. MAP sensors are best for sustained full throttle and transient like when you suddenly let off the gas pedal.

Single conversions are fairly common so should be able to find a forum where people have created guides for it.

BACK ON THE ROCKS

Ok, thanks man, i'm gonna look around for some guides on single turbo installation. But I'm probably gonna stick around reliability mods for starter so I know that when I want to make more power it's ready to take it

What's the point of getting 10 R32s if it's without the fun?

I heard they were expensive as shit, not 'horrible'.

proof pls

r33gt-r.com/2014/11/update-2-from-mines.html?m=1

This dude has been running a Mines VX-ROM for a while and his engine has been killing catalytic converters like it's nothing. Complete Mines engine build.

Japanese tuners are not as good as most think they are. Australia and the US often have better engineering behind their tuning companies.

Mines had a good R34 demo car but that was mostly because they focused on Aero, weight reduction, gearing, suspension, and overall balance instead of chasing pure power like most tuner cars.

I'd be willing to bet that tuners in Australia, Europe, and the US would be able to make a much faster R34 GT-R if they were sold here. I've seen US tuners beat out HKS' demo cars in time attack competitions.

Every importer I talk to almost universally says to avoid doing work to cars while they're still in Japan because the cost relative to the quality is not good. The standards for things like body repairs is far below what we would consider acceptable in the US. Nismo is probably one of the few that does good work and they're expensive as fuck.

r33gt-r.com/2016/09/hakone-run-with-friends-and-what-i.html?m=1

>Thanks to his experience and skill, as I mentioned in the Speedhunters article, I now know how the Mine's VX-Rom tune is old school - there is the flat spot upon acceleration, lack of ignition retardation when coming off throttle, and too much turbo drop between shifts. Never mind the excess fueling that causes everything to run rich, for the sake of cooling off the cylinders.