>The trustees and supporters of Changing Attitude England welcome the news that Nick Chamberlain, the Bishop of Grantham, has spoken openly and honestly about being a gay man in a long term relationship. We also welcome the news that Archbishop Justin Welby endorsed his appointment, fully aware that Bishop Nick is gay and in a long-term, committed relationship. We value the support given to Nick by his diocesan bishop, Christopher Lowson. Bishop Christopher has written to the diocese of Lincoln saying the fact that Bishop Nicholas is gay is not, and has never been a determining factor [in his appointment].
>“Please pray for him and his partner as they weather the media storm and church debate. We hope that Bishop Nick’s honesty and openness will encourage other gay and lesbian bishops to be equally honest and confident in their faith and their God-given sexuality.”
>The papal survey quickly spread throughout Germany. Lay organizations jumped at the opportunity to finally make their opinions known. The German Catholic Youth Federation (BDKJ), for example, produced a simplified form of the survey, which was completed online by about 10,000 respondents.
>If the pope and his bishops were still harboring any illusions about their influence on young Catholics, they have now been dashed. "The church's sexual morals are irrelevant to nine out of 10 young Catholics," reads the BDKJ summary. "Sex before marriage and birth control are a given in their intimate relationships."
>And hardly anyone feels guilty about it. For their grandparents' generation, premarital sex was tantamount to living a life in sin. In sermons, Grandma and Grandpa were taught to feel "tainted" after taking sexual liberties. Today, according to the BDKJ, 96 percent of people who are in "sexual relationships" without having been married in the church have no qualms about it. Young Catholics simply do as they please, and yet they still participate in the sacraments.
>Another group the church accused of committing sins also enjoys considerable support from the base: homosexuals. "Many Christians cannot understand this attitude," the staff of Cologne's Cardinal Joachim Meisner concluded after reading the survey responses they received. In fact, Catholics in Cologne are all too familiar with their conservative archbishop's condemnation of gays and lesbians. Now Meisner can read about the consequences in the analysis prepared by his own priests, who conclude: "Many have already turned away from the church. And many are convinced that this is no longer acceptable."
Robert Sullivan
>In April 2012, the election of a young gay man who was living in a registered same-sex partnership to a pastoral council in Vienna was vetoed by the parish priest. After meeting with the couple, Schönborn reinstated him. He later advised in a homily that priests must apply a pastoral approach that is "neither rigorist nor lax" in counselling Catholics who "don't live according to [God's] master plan".[38]
>Schönborn is a member of the Elijah Interfaith Institute Board of World Religious Leaders.[31]
>Elijah Interfaith Institute is a nonprofit, international, interfaith organization which was founded by Rabbi Alon Goshen-Gottstein in 1997.
Luis Cooper
>In 2014, addressing a question raised on the family, he argued that church doctrine can change over time, and "doesn't depend on the spirit of time but can develop over time." "Saying that the doctrine will never change is a restrictive view of things," Marx later clarified at a Vatican press conference. "The core of the Catholic Church remains the Gospel, but have we discovered everything? This is what I doubt."[12]
>We have to respect the decisions of people. We have to respect also, as I said in the first synod on the family — some were shocked, but I think it’s normal — you cannot say that a relationship between a man and a man, and they are faithful, [that] that is nothing, that has no worth,
>He said it was up to the state “to make regulations for homosexuals so they have equal rights or nearly equal . . . but marriage is another point,” adding that the state “has to regulate these partnerships and to bring them into a just position, and we as church cannot be against it
>The history of homosexuals in our societies is very bad because we’ve done a lot to marginalize [them],” he said, adding that as a Church and as a society “we’ve also to say ‘sorry, sorry.’
Alexander Williams
will all denominations be sjws soon?
Oliver Morales
I don't think the Orthodox will, since Russia controls more than half the bishops. Also Orthodox monks are extreme conservative, they generally don't even allow non-Orthodox to sit in their services (they have to listen from outside), and they'd fly off the handle and start excommunicating any bishops who favored it. And the Orthodox have an enormous regard for the monks, the Orthodox look at their monks like Catholics look at the Pope.
Henry Diaz
This. The Orthodox are fucking redpilled.
Benjamin Martin
westboro baptists probably won't
Aaron Cruz
>hnnng that pic
is that tales from this crypt?
Brody Scott
would smash (no homo)
Charles Scott
‘The extreme corruption and wickedness of the English nation has provoked the just anger of God. When malice shall have reached the fullness of its measure, God will, in His wrath, send to the English people wicked spirits, who will punish and afflict them with great severity, by separating the green tree from its parent stem the length of three furlongs. But at last this same tree, through the compassionate mercy of God, and without any national (governmental) assistance, shall return to its original root, reflourish and bear abundant fruit.’ -deathbed prophecy of Saint King Edward the Confessor >they generally don't even allow non-Orthodox to sit in their services No, they can. The only limitation is they can't canonically participate in the second part of the Liturgy.
Jackson Sullivan
They will open up eventually too or will lose followers.
Leo White
>No, they can. Depends on the monastery. The one I have in mind does not permit non-Orthodox beyond the narthex
>The only limitation is they can't canonically participate in the second part of the Liturgy. That's for catechumens. I'm talking about non-Orthodox. Catechumens are Orthodox-in-training
The Orthodox Church is going to corner the market on non-SJW Christians. Even if it's just a niche market, it will still be significant, and there is a lot more to gain by keeping it than going for the other alternatives. Besides, I have to remind you again, Russians control more than half the bishops, and being SJW in Russia is not how you keep adherents, since more than 90% of people there are against gay marriage.
Christian Barnes
Denmark had a priest that was atheist ages ago.
Tyler Howard
Yeah, but we're talking about the CoE, not Denmark. Denmark is completely lost and irrelevant as a church
Jonathan Davis
It was 19'ish years ago though.
Easton Hughes
CoE has an agnostic archbishop they have been hyperliberal for a long time
only african anglicans are likely to stay traditional
