Why have Jewish people been persecuted throughout history?

Why have Jewish people been persecuted throughout history?

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I want an unbiased reason why.

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Victim complex.

Their very first stories in their most ancient texts are all about how much they suffer under Egyptian rule.

>In Europe
Weren't Christians
Often used as a scapegoat for when things went wrong
>In the Middle East
Weren't Muslim
Muhammad wasn't a fan of them
The Quran doesn't speak highly of them; I think not to sure though.

Romans made them a minority within everyone else's shit rather than their own nation. And the dominant faith throughout where they were scattered to ended up being the one that was kind of their enemy.

They were outsiders everywhere they went but mostly too committed to their own ways to integrate. Rather than converting and inter-marrying they largely preferred to stay 'the local Jewish family' or whatever.

Judaism's laws regarding usury made it natural for them to become Europe's moneylenders and financial experts. They were everywhere and not bound by their faith to avoid the practice like nearly everyone else. This established a not-that-unreasonable-but-not-totally-true perception that all Jews were working together within their own circles across Europe over their resident countries/communities and specialized in fucking over the common man.

There hasn't really been a point in history since their banishment where they weren't the outsiders in multiple ways. And outsiders are always the intuitive choice when someone needs blaming. Everything from the First World War to The Black Death got blamed on Jews somewhere or other.

They're radical identitarians

success breeds jealousy

Because they are awful people jews are the most racist people on earth and thinks its their right to subjugate the dominant ethnicity in any country they infest.

Any citation to them doing that?

The "da jooz control the world" has some truth to it. Not the part where they control the world but that they are some clique.

Jews often kept within their group of Jews instead of associating with gentiles which made them suspicious. It's kinda true today but instead of completely disassociating themselves with gentiles they just prefer fellow Jews.

They didnt integrate well into non-secular societies that demanded any degree of religious adoption. The whole reject all other gods thing has ticked a lot of people off

Usury laws

Because they deserve it.

Being persecuted strengthens their group mentality. If they got along perfectly with every society they settle down in as a minority group, they would lose a lot of members to assimilation.

>abandoned their God
>reject Christ

The same thing is happening to the West now.

They take advantage of other people and practice all sorts of shady business models, such as usury. Post WW1 Germany for example had a communist uprising headed by Jews and later the capitalist Jews ended up owning about 50% of the country's properties thanks to hyper inflation and them having access to foreign currencies that they could take the advantage of the inflation with.

They generally have large enough population of ruthless and greedy people who make life hard for the natives that the natives will eventually want to get rid of them. That's why they have been expelled so many times.

they were insular and weird and didn't integrate into the society they lived in, made it really easy to blame "those people" for things, especially because they were involved in things like moneylending, the christian concept of usury wasn't one they believed in, so they could do shady deals which put them on top of gentiles, which made gentiles hate them

very secretive and standoffish, if anyone has ever encountered an Orthodox Jew you'll know what I mean, they are strange and give off a vibe that they think you are lower than them

It seems to me like Muslim society was quite nice to Jews(yes sure there were some problems, some mass murders, but that happens everywhere on earth between any 2 groups of people over a long time).

Christians society on the other hand hated Jews right from the start for killing jebus and not accepting his faith.

Medieval European societies didn't like people outside of the social hierarchy like Roma and Jews, they were always (except for the Roma) fringe groups
That position and mentality was maintained until the Jewish emanzipation

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Thomas Sowell has an interesting, though-provoking argument that Jews are a middleman minority in many countries, meaning that they immigrate and they work very hard at occupations which require little to no startup capital, such as grocery stores.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Rednecks_and_White_Liberals#Are_Jews_Generic.3F

>Sowell argues that the jealousy is historically quite common among ethnic groups who have had historic success as economic "middlemen" who derive a profit from the service of bringing needed items to the marketplace. Among other historically persecuted "middlemen minorities" were Lebanese and Chinese immigrant merchants. The resentment is due to a perceived "lack of added value" that these middlemen provide, as it is not easily observable.

The essay is called "Are Jews Generic?" and it's from his book Black Rednecks and White Liberals. It's a very good read.

great summary

this is why we need a separate board for religious shit

>Muslims were nice to Jews

Top kek.

Ignominy shall be their portion [the Jews'] wheresoever they are found... They have incurred anger from their Lord, and wretchedness is laid upon them... because they disbelieve the revelations of Allah and slew the Prophets wrongfully... because they were rebellious and used to transgress. [Surah 111, v. 112]

And thou wilt find them [the Jews] the greediest of mankind....[Surah 11, v. 96]

Taste ye [Jews] the punishment of burning.[Surah III, v. 18]

"They [the Jews] are the heirs of Hell.... They will spare no pains to corrupt you. They desire nothing but your ruin. Their hatred is clear from what they say ..." Ibid. [Surah 111, v. 117-120]

Because of the wrongdoing of the Jews.... And of their taking usury ... and of their devouring people's wealth by false pretenses. We have prepared for those of them who disbelieve a painful doom.[Surah IV, v. 160, 161]

Allah hath cursed them [the Jews] for their disbelief.[Surah IV, v. 46]

In truth the disbelievers are an open enemy to you.[Surah IV, v. 101]

And thou seest [Jews and Christians] vying one with another in sin and transgression and their devouring of illicit gain. Verily evil is what they do. Why do not the rabbis and the priests forbid their evilspeaking and their devouring of illicit gain? .... evil is their handiwork.[Surah V, v. 62, 63]

O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and Christians for friends. [Surah V, v. 51]

The most vehement of mankind in hostility [are] the Jews and the idolators.[Surah V, v. 82]

Fight against such of those [Jews and Christians] ... until they pay for the tribute readily, being brought low.[Surah IX, v. 29]

Allah fighteth against them [the Jews]. How perverse they are![Surah IX, v. 30]

They [the Jews] spread evil in the land .... [Surah V, v. 62-66]

[The Jews] knowingly perverted [the word of Allah], know of nothing except lies ... commit evil and become engrossed in sin. [Surah II, v. 71-85]

because they are gods people
god has always fucked over the people closest to him in some way all throughout history
god is literally the sam pepper of deities

because they are the reason why people suffer

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The only sensible answer.

>i want an unbiased reason
Well theres your problem.

If Jews just kept themselves to being a market-dominant minority, they would be resented, but not really hated. No one hates the Lebanese in Latin America, for example, and though the Chinese in Southeast Asia have suffered some persecution, it never reached the level of genocide.

No, the reason why Jews have been hated and persecuted is because they use their financial and cultural power to influence, and ultimately subvert, their host societies. Again, you don't see Lebanese Brazilians actively working against the interests of other Brazilians the way Jews actively work against the interests of Europeans and White Americans, based on pure ethnic hatred.

The thing is, though, that that's bullshit.

>Jews openly say they are working to subvert their host societies
>Several historical example of Jews subverting their host societies
>"But that's bullshit!"

Because they killed jesus

#YesAllJews

Jews had it somewhat coming for their chosen-people complex and money lendering. However, I do pity the Jews in the 19th and 20th century who were really desperate of integrating but were still considered outsiders in the end. People like Fritz Haber make me kind of sad, even though he invited toxic gas.

Mostly because of their refusal to integrate, due to their "we're the chosen people and everyone else is a dumb goy" nonsense.

The prohibitions on usury present in Christianity made it so Jews (who are only prohibited from usury with other members of faith) could accrue substantial financial power. This coupled with a society that generally excluded them for religious reasons made them both powerful and distinctly separate. This put them in a position of being more or less a piggy bank that local rulers could smash for quick money, and being disliked by the locals.

Show me a single Jew who doesn't want to destroy gentile nations and enslave all goyim.

Jonas Salk.

They're historically a culturally/socially insular people but an economically integrated people.

This. These.

It's a vicious cycle of isolation and self isolating ideology. Hadrian rapes their skulls and takes Jerusalem and finds their monotheism a danger to the greater empire as it creates tension between them and the standard Roman so it begins policies of uniformity but also a resentment that mandates a maintenance of faith and identity. Through this it becomes common practice to mistrust them which leads to European bans on Jewish work in certain industries which makes them gravitate towards non textile merchant work and money exchange and performance art which then aides in common conspiracy thought of Jewish protectionism and domination of the fate of nations and media at large which isn't helped by their continued insistence on their ancient identity.

nobody wants to destroy their livestock

pure coincidence

This chart is pure cherry picking shit. It isn't even true to the wiki article quoted:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Revolution_of_1918–19
And I am not going to start by pointing out that the revolution start as a sailor's revolt basically without Jewish leaders. Hitler himself was elected Soldatenrat.

>There hasn't really been a point in history since their banishment where they weren't the outsiders in multiple ways. And outsiders are always the intuitive choice when someone needs blaming. Everything from the First World War to The Black Death got blamed on Jews somewhere or other.
Yes, there was. Islamic Spain for example. Or Sicily in the 12th and 13the century

>my source for the history of Jews in the Middle Ages is the Quoran

>not realizing that Medieval Kings and Kaisers disintegrated Jews so they were totally dependent on their protection
>not realizing that was a common thing in Medieval Europe
>not realizing the was same was done to Muslims in Italy

Jewish communes and districts were attacked many times, sometimes slaughtered entirely, even in the "peaceful multicultural" Islamic Spain.

They even integrated into Catholicism in Austria, and still they were discriminated. It really was structural. Mahler's last song 'Farewell' in the
'Songs of the Earth' symphony was a metaphor to his experience of duality as an assimilated Jew. Antisemitism in the late 19th century and early 20th century pretty much was the nail in the coffin for Jewish assimilation ideas and policies.

Kevin Macdonald's 'Culture of Critique' is a must read when approaching this subject.

You think Mohammed got swindled right before he wrote these suras?

I tried to respond to your post but it's utterly retarded. You used the Quran as a source to disprove which is - well - utterly retarded again. And now you come up with a claim that isn't even a real claim cause your base it on nothing (I know attacks happened even before the 1090s). Read a book. The dhimmi concept was far more tolerant in the Middle Ages than what Christians practiced.

You're either a Muslim or a fucking moron. The Quran is full of Surah expressing hatred toward Jews due to the actions of their paedophile prophet who repeatedly engaged in military campaigns against Jews in Medina and Mecca.

AD 627, Muhammad committed an atrocity against the last remaining major tribe of Jews in Medina: the Qurayza.
He beheads the men and the pubescent boys and enslaves and rapes the women and children.

Many Muslims believe Muhammad died after eating poison given to him by Jews you retarded cunt so your assertation "Christians are mad Jews killed Jesus" is as shortsighted and ignorant as you are.

Read a book yourself you thick shit. You know fuck all about Islam and are more concerned about fedora-tipping against Christianity

And how does any of this describe the actual conditions of Medieval Jews living Muslim countries?

>Why have Jewish people been persecuted throughout history?
Because they represent "the other" in the cultural/social sense, hence they are open to exploitation, except at the same time they are a (semi) permanent fixture in these cultures/societies, as opposed to, say, those who would be affected by of orientalism.

>It seems to me like Muslim society was quite nice to Jews(yes sure there were some problems, some mass murders, but that happens everywhere on earth between any 2 groups of people over a long time).

Christians society on the other hand hated Jews right from the start for killing jebus and not accepting his faith.

And what exactly does that have to do with the post that was responded to? Stop trying to change the subject.

If you're so fucking retarded you think the dhimmi concept is "tolerant" you need mental help.

>pay the jizya
>accept Muslim superiority
>cannot hold public office
>cannot bear arms
>cannot testify against a Muslim
>cannot repair religious buildings
>cannot erect new religious buildings
>cannot sell alcohol
>must accept second class status or face forced explusion as in Maghred and Persia

Wow so tolerant. Jews put up with the dhimmi because if they didn't they were fucking massacred

Also they were forcibly thrown into walled ghettos in Morocca from the 15th century onwards