Redpill me on why the S2K isn't the best sports car under $20k

C5 Z06 is far more capable and costs $15-20k

are you talking about american money? Because C5's and s2k's are easily found in the $15k~ range

Its not. Any 350z with HR platform will out perform $$ for $$.

S2000 is a beefed up Miata. Good platform, not as massed produced, but Z33 will out performs. I would say that the S2K is aesthetically nicer though.

Try 10k

>he actually believes this

Enjoy being in a slower car with a longer wheelbase that's slower in the turns

>he's a Miata fanboy

Enjoy your 200k mileage 120hp $10k American white boy reddit tax

I own an S2000

I just know that turbo miatas are faster for under 10K

>miata
>10k anywhere in the continental US
something tells me you've got no clue what you're talking about

Ok lets be logical and stop memeing

>$2k 30 year old girl car with no power vs a 15 year old sports car with a 9k redline, superior suspension, superior brakes, superior chassis, superior drivetrain and engine.

Fuck man idk

>30 years old
>first model year was 90
try and do basic subtraction again
the miata is faster with an ebay turbo

I choose

>$15,000 Corvette originally made to beat Ferrari F360s and 911 Turbos that's as fast out the box as a $15,000 S2000 with $10,000 in mods.

I really want fender flares but that's a whole endeavor.

>so poor he has to resort to installing cheap 2nd hand ebay turbochargers to make the Miata only as fast as the S2000 before the engine blows from only 1 bar boost

Hmmmmm

I loved my S2000 but it's not perfect.

It feels fast but really isn't.
It handles well but it is not a tame car and doesn't inspire confidence, even with good rubber.
It is pretty small and I'm Veeky Forums.

It's like a Miata+ or a Boxster lite

>poor people can outrun s2ks with ease
wow okay? is that supposed to be a bad thing?

>>so poor he has to resort to installing cheap 2nd hand ebay turbochargers to make the Miata only as fast
>only as fast
>WITH a turbo

Don't see where I wrote 'outran'

My dad owns an s2000 and I would drive it occasionally before I moved out. I love it and think it will definatly hold its value if not appreciate in the next 20 years. being the only rwd Honda (besides nsx).
I don't think it feels all that fast unless you really get the revs up. Maybe that's part of the appeal tho

>half cage
>ricer wing
lol.. texasfags i swear.
never seen a corner in their life.

it's definitely going to appreciate

honda will never make a car with a n/a engine that revs to 9k

it's extremely tame. did you put ricer coilovers on it or something?
it has no tendencies, pretty neutral thats the best starting point you can ask for.

they definitely are not fast though. not that being fast should matter to someone who isn't a highway pulling inbred.

>ctrl+f 'lotus'
>no results

Because of the car sitting next to it.

SW20 turbo

This. Or if you want some comfort in your mid-engined sports car, pic related.

It's nowhere nearly as tame as a E36 M3, 944/968, RX8, or even a GT86. It's fast and responsive but twitchy at the limit and unforgiving past it (why a lot of them end up getting crashed). The AP2's suspension improvements were made for a reason.

It's Honda's Boxster/Z4 competitor so yes. A lot of people don't realize they were $40,000 brand new which was a lot for a 240hp car in the mid 00s when Evos and STis were making waves giving you 300hp for $30,000.

>S2000s are gaining value, so don't buy one
Am I reading this right?

It's a far that's pointlessly gaining value. It's good for $12-15k, but at $20k I'm shopping for E46 M3s, Evos/STis, GT86s, and C5 Corvettes.

At $25k I'm looking at C6 Corvettes, Elises, and 987 Cayman/Boxster S

Any car that is actually gaining value is a good investment. I probably wouldn't spend $20K either, as I would argue that values will start plummeting soon, but if you're right that it will go up, definitely get one. That's making money by driving a cool car.

I'm seriously impressed your hardtop hasn't been stolen by Juan and Hector yet.

my nigger that driveway is A+

Because the Saturn sky exists.

Is that hardtop bonded to the car? I like.

Why the fuck would you buy an S2k when this is cheaper and not rice taxed all to shit?

The savings'll get you through 300k miles worth of engine rebuild.

>fd
>cheaper
>not rice taxed all to shit

You can pay $20-25k for a decent S2000.

Or $15k for a decent FD. really makes you think, huh. Keep knowing what you have, fag.

no they're not, not for a clean one.
dirty example smoked out by drug dealers don't count.
>rotary

Like I said, the savings are enough to get your more rebuilds than the distance you'll be driving the car for.

or save the trouble and buy a clean from from a widowed estate sale.

>convertible only
>clean examples are becoming harder to find

>$15k for a 20-year old Japanese shitbox
>not rice taxed

>it's definitely going to appreciate
>That's making money by driving a cool car
Mine is already worth a few thousand more than it was when I bought it 4 years ago.

And OP is correct, I'd buy another one if I needed a car in that price range.

not the user your talking to but

do S2000s have seasonal price points like a Miata? if it means me being able to buy a MY04-06 40-60k for 13-15 grand in the winter as suppose to 17k to 21k for the good colors like GPW and Rio yellow in the other 3 seasons, I'd rather just wait it out. the s2ki classifieds keep getting more and more expensive every visit

Because this exists.

...

Because the Boxster S exists

Ayy

look at this dyno graph, it has no power at all until 6000 rpm

wow its almost like its a vtec

yeah but that VTAKK kicking in is great shit man

The AP2 is tame. The AP1 is unforgiving of driver errors like abrupt inputs or lifting the throttle, and it has a bump steer problem that you alleviate by either aligning the wheels with lots of static toe in or by getting one of the dozen or so kits designed to reduce toe change on bumps.

because you could buy 370z for that price

good car for old men

Damn, those old school VTEC systems really are like having 2 separate cans

>Redpill me on why the S2K isn't the best sports car under $20k
Shitty mazda and their owners cry about it.

Also it only fits manlets.

Oh, that nigger dog is how I know you're white trash and live in a poor area!

because you could buy a way faster car for 20k
and it's pretty pathetic when a miata with some slapped aftermarket mods can't beat your car while costing less

Have you ever driven an Elise? Terrible DDs. Even slags hate them

Can you buy a clean manual one for under 20k?

You'd be stretching a Miata out to its limits to surpass a stock S2000, but once you start modifying the S2000 it's in a completely different league

>best sports car under $20k

Good job this isn't a fucking DD thread

An user on the Porsche general bought one with a 6 speed for $13k
He's been driving it for a year now with no problems

>Picking on doggos

What a fucking beta

s2000 has nothing on the miata other than the engine, not even chasis rigidity
NC already surpassed it and ND is way past it

With a clean title? Did it have 150k in the odometer or something?

Sure, but the ND is 30k after taxes.

You honestly think the NC is superior to the S2k?

just buy a C4 or C5

There's plenty under 20k, maybe it depends on area.

was speaking purely about chassis rigidity, but please tell me what s2000 has over NC aside from the more powerful engine?

>20k

itt honda fanboys get their feelings hurt over people who do more to their cars than stance them and call it a day

>s2000 has nothing on the miata other than the engine
>was speaking purely about chassis rigidity

What?

Ask him next time a thread pops up, I guess.

What would I need to do to my s2k to beat a Jetta with caliper delete mod?

when i mentioned that nc surpassed s2000 i was speaking only about chassis rigidity
you didn't answer my question btw

Not even close to 20k in US. They've been stuck between $25k and $30k for a good while now.

It doesn't have a fucking roof.

/thread

>WE COULD SAVE 50LBS REMOVING THE REAR SEATS AND ROOF
>fuck just having more power rite

The Mustang also has a more rigid chassis than the S2000, that makes it a better handling car right?

>manlets
6'2" 200lbs and I DD it just fine. My brother and father are 6'3" and also drive it on occasion.

Well it was a clean title, some woman ran a stop sign a week after he got it and smashed his front bumper and headlight, he got lucky and insurance fixed it for him

>roadster has no roof
Wow

of course not, but that's because mustang has shit suspension setup

meanwhile because by NC mazda already switched to double wishbone front and multilink rear instead of dw like in the s2000 and earlier miatas

btw, ND uses multlilink front and rear which is even better

houston.craigslist.org/ctd/6039278952.html

this one's 13k and it's a dumpster fire

i would spend at least 16k on one.

Yeah, roadsters are shit. Targa tops are a slight upgrade.

>Drive a cage
>remove half the cage
Fuck it, remove the other two wheels while you're at it.

guys, which of these 2 bad cars should i choose from?

furthermore, i want a car that i'm only going barely push during off and onramps. also, which would my bear BF like more?

Damn, the ND must handle better than Boxsters and Caymans by your logic

handles better than s2000 at least

yeah, it actually handles better than boxters, at least first gen
caymans have better body rigidity and weight distribution, something that s2000 doesn't have over the miata

you still avoid my question

>still has no idea what he's talking about
I bet you haven't driven any of these cars on a track

>weight distribution meme

>no arguments at all

classic

Coming from the guy that rides the bus