Why did did leftism become anti-nationalist?

They're not anti nationalist per se. I've seen a lot of black leftist nationalists and Palestine nationalist.

American nationalism is pretty ethnic. All the American nationalists I know are pretty clear about America and its white Anglo Saxon foundationYou're talking about patriotism which is dying

Basque and catalan nationalists are leftist

Not exclusively, but leftist parties have plenty of room in them.

You're talking about neoliberal leftism, OP.

The communist Vietnamese were some of the most hardcore nationalists to ever live.

Speaking about western Europe, since east was under totalitarian regime; there weren't any and if they were either or they were loyal to the occupants, as in Scotland.

>if they are apart of the same tribe as you, why wouldn't you want to help them

Why would I?

A lot of the white people where I live are lazy as fuck and are their own worst enemies. I'm no more inclined to help a lazy white person than I am to help anyone else.

Try living around the black equivalent. You will get beaten and raped

They aren't anti-nationalist, really. Anti-nationalism is just a sort of a western feelgood thing where you can pat yourself on the head for fighting the evil racists while at the same time enjoying the benefits of nationalism. The only legitimately anti-nationalist organizations or groups are probably massive global corporations.

Pic related is sort of my point. Leftists like Sydney Harris (american liberal) have spent 7 decades trying to re-define the word nationalism, so they can practice nationalism without using the term nationalism.

It's more akin to anti-the word nationalism.

>neoliberal leftism
oxymoron, "neoliberalism" is common economical stance of right wing parties
You've meant modern-liberal leftists.

>Inb4 "But thats stupid! Modern and neo- should mean the same"
Welcome to Americanized terminology where liberals encrease taxes and conservatives defend freedom of press.

That's irrelevant. I wouldn't help them either.

Besides, there are parts of this city (Glasgow) where the whites are basically niggers anyway. This city is overwhelmingly white yet over 60% of people here are on welfare. It's pathetic.

See here
>a successful Nationalist nation would eventually move leftward financially
>Nationalism needs to cultivate a sense of pride, duty and belonging, for it to be successful
This is a gradual thing.

>I think America is one of the only nations in the World, where Nationalism doesn't automatically equal ethnic Nationalism.

A flat out lie, though. Most modern European nationalism in practice is cultural nationalism, NOT ethnic nationalism. Even the most common example of an sort-of-ethnic nationalist, Hitler, had programs to make Poles culturally German.

That's because you're Scott's. You are a trash European ethnicity.
howeber they are still no comparison to other groups like negros and Muslims.

A welfare state, especially the scandinavian model, requires nationalism. This isn't commonly known because people conveniently like to ignore Nordic nationalism because it can't be used to do quilt by association

Scots haven't always been like this and outside the cities they still aren't.

Economic and social leftism has been a cancer on this country. It's evidence that a gibsmedat attitude can be just as easily cultivated in whites for political ends as it can in blacks. Fucking Labour.

Welfare is nationalism. Apart from the fact that you receive its benefits only in that particular nation, a good welfare program is likely to make plebs not want to leave the country or overthrow the government.

It's the government protecting the citizens from the horrors of poverty, yes, but also protecting itself from them.

You can have welfare programs, free healthcare, fiscal policies, and a bunch of other stuff leftists like, independently of the immigration policies.

I guess not destryoing countries like Syria and Libya could also help, but what passes for "left" these days isn't just nationalist, it is quite trigger-happy.

But Socialism in One Country didn't disappear after the fighting in Berlin was done with, though. Renouncing and denouncing the USSR was a lengthy process.

When it decided it did not have to hide its globalist intentions any longer; that nobody and nothing stood in its way.

Cultural Marxism says nations are bad goyim. Open all borders.

Point taken. Some nationalist groups are also leftist.
You can argue there was nationalism+socialism within Soviet Bloc countries.
The tendency in most of the Western world however, is for leftism to be against nationalism, to the point were it basically defines leftism.

Leftism started out mainstream wise as an internationalist anti-nationalist concept. Really it was only with WW1 that you saw a rise in nationalist leftism which was furthered by Stalin by fusing soviet communism with a Russian twinge, not to mention the nationalist elemen inherent in the decolonization movements. In the modern day you're just seeing the result of a leftism that feels it can once again aspire to a one world government.

>Leftism started out mainstream wise as an internationalist anti-nationalist concept.
Do you know where did the concept of left started? French revolution
Where do you think did the nationalists were there? On the left or on the right?

Please go back to /pol/

How does being proud of your country no matter what lead to war? Nationalism doesn't lead to war.

>trash ethnicity
>invented fucking loads and one of the first people to undergo an industrial revolution in the world

I'm not Scottish but fuck off. The reason they're shit nowadays is because of how socialist they are and because of the total destruction of their industry. Also the gene pool was trashed by all the wars Britain fought it. Scotland was proportionally over represented in British armies.

Nationalism should have died with the 19th century.

Because real struggle is between classes, not between nations.

Leftism is inherently globalist.

>I think America is one of the only nations in the World, where Nationalism doesn't automatically equal ethnic Nationalism.

It did until the beginning of the 20th century, when the WASPs grudgingly lost their majority and from then until about WWII it was more like a pan-European identity. And then WWII happened and ethnic nationalism in western civilization became doubleplus ungood wrongthink thoughtcrime to deter people from questioning the foundation myth of the latter half of the 20th century.

This.

Ethnic nationalism has been made taboo despite it being a good thing.

what about the classes of different nations competing for land or resources. does that count as intra-class struggle?

How about just
"follow the fucking process and come here legally or kill yourself"

Back in my day you could be pro-legal immigration and anti-illegal immigration.