Are there any arguments that may be used by the majority of the population against zoophilia without them sounding like complete hypocrites? This isn't a bait thread and I would never think about doing it myself, just a moral question.
>It's cruel against the animal No, not crueler than raising them for meat, meat that a majority of the population got no problems with eating meat. There are hunters and those eating meat produced more humanly, sure, but how many stay to that exclusively? There's also something called "artificial insemination" which practically is the same as sex or rape.
>We weren't made/evolved for that The first argument is religious, which is fine as long as you are ready with other groups making other religious claims, which most people aren't. The second can only be used by primitivists who make up a very very small percentage of society.
Joshua Torres
I would argue that at least to modern notions of "proper" sexual activity, you require informed consent of both parties, which is for a purpose beyond merely protecting both parties, understanding and having some idea of what sex is for and about is an essential part of healthy sex.
Animals can't communicate meaningfully enough with humans to provide proper consent, when they even have the intelligence to grasp concepts like that.
Ergo, no zoophilia.
Jaxson Walker
>can put dick in animal >must make it legal
Its disgusting to me and we werent evolved for that
Andrew Stewart
Eating animals is delicious but fucking them is disgusting. It's pretty simple m8
>but that's just your opinion yeah, so is everything else.
Evan Perry
We also have rules and laws against Murder as well as slavery, neither of those apply to animals so why should sex ones do?
Julian Powell
Like I said, notions of consent are not just there to protect people from unwanted sexual advances. Consent is considered to be an essential part of the sexual experience, a basis of bonding between the pair. You can't have that with an animal.
Try reading the post next time.
Luke Bennett
It is self-harm through degeneracy.
Alexander Cruz
So animal rape is okay then?
Brayden Walker
>There's also something called "artificial insemination" which practically is the same as sex or rape.
Son of a bitch,what you smoked?!
Dylan Young
>Animals can't communicate meaningfully enough with humans to provide proper consent,
Neither can paper cups but millions of people drink out of them every day without it.
Brayden Edwards
No, because no rape is morally okay, human or animal.
I wasn't aware that paper cups were used for sexual intercourse.
Charles Cox
>Stick object up into vulva >Sprout in seed Think of it like really, really quick sex.
Kayden Ortiz
You want compare a paper cup with a animal?! No,its a consensus thing,is not a rape.
Fuckin idiots.
Jeremiah Bennett
>No, because no rape is morally okay, human or animal. But why make not a difference for Humans and animals for rape when we do it for killing things and wearing their skin?
Easton Miller
Do you think I shouldn't use a cup for sexual intercourse just because it can't consent?
Daniel Evans
>No,its a consensus thing,is not a rape. I don't remember animals ever being asked for consent about being artificially inseminated.
James Nelson
I've already explained this twice. Try reading.
To be honest, I don't think you can use a cup for sexual intercourse, because it doesn't even have awareness. It's a masturbatory aid, at most.
Jordan Roberts
>my argument hinges on treating sentient and non-sentient arguments the same way
Jayden Young
>I've already explained this twice. Try reading. I did read, I never saw where you explained why Animals should be treated differently when it comes to things like killing them, enslaving them and purposely inbreeding them ((Like they do with show.-dogs)) but not when it comes to fucking them. Maybe I am missing it?
James Murphy
>Animals can't communicate meaningfully enough with humans to provide proper consent, I mean, if you were to bend over for a male dog, and it started fucking you. That would pretty much be consent right?
James Young
>sentience is special and matters
lmao
Jason Flores
if you did the same to a severely mentally retarded human that was incapable or a child below the age of consent of understanding the concept of consent it wouldn't be. you'd be done for molestation or some shit, same as with a dog
Logan Howard
are you saying humans don't require socialization?
On a message board?
Dominic Evans
>I did read,
No, you didn't.
>I never saw where you explained why Animals should be treated differently when it comes to things like killing them, enslaving them and purposely inbreeding them ((Like they do with show.-dogs)) but not when it comes to fucking them.
Because you didn't read it.
> notions of consent are not just there to protect people from unwanted sexual advances. Consent is considered to be an essential part of the sexual experience, a basis of bonding between the pair. You can't have that with an animal.
Nathan Ross
>Consent is considered to be an essential part of the sexual experience
No it isn't.
Joseph Wright
Alright then, you are just arguing morally against it, not for it being banned or something right?