Operation Market Garden

>/int/posters

>normandy and caen campaign were a success!

>it must be because germans are incompetent!

>lets try an airborne invasion because krauts are so fucking bad at fighting lmao

Allied High Command

> Montgomery you fuck, you nearly blew Operation Goodwood with your cowardly ways

Montgomery

> I'll show you, I'll plan the most ambitious airborne operation ever and blame the Polish when it fails

Well, we know how that went

>The Allies expected their armor to advance 12 million miles without issue

The operation hinged on XXX Corps advancing as aggressively as possible with its' tanks to support the paratroopers.

They sent a Armored Corps through the marsh country on one road easily blocked by the Germans.

>Among the controversial aspects of the plan was the necessity that all the main bridges be taken. The terrain was also ill-suited for the mission of XXX Corps.[71] Brereton had ordered that the bridges along XXX Corps' route should be captured with "thunderclap surprise".[147] It is therefore surprising in retrospect that the plans placed so little emphasis on capturing the important bridges immediately with forces dropped directly on them. In the case of Veghel and Grave where this was done, the bridges were captured with only a few shots being fired.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Market_Garden#Optimistic_planning

Then when they had an opportunity they went to bed instead.

>XXX Corps was also criticized for its "inability" to keep to the operation's timetable. The most notable example of this was on Wednesday 20 September, when Nijmegen Bridge had finally been captured and the Guards Armoured Division, after crossing, promptly came to a halt for the night to rest, refuel and rearm. XXX Corps was delayed at Son by a bridge demolition and the delay at Nijmegen (having arrived by D+3, within the maximum time estimate, having compensated for the delay to build a Bailey Bridge at Son) was caused by having to help the 82nd's paratroopers capture the town and bridges. The lead unit of XXX Corps, the Guards Armoured Division, was led by a commander (Allan Adair) whom Montgomery had sought to remove prior to D-Day. This action was blocked due to Adair's popularity.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Market_Garden#Missed_opportunities

>So why did Market Garden fail?

Alas, it was but a bridge too far.

They've had less transport planes than needed and couldn't unload all the paras at once.

Now the question is why didn't they drop them on the nearest bridges first and then dropped more into Arnhem etc. zone. They would still do it faster than ground units could reach them and Germans wouldn't blow the bridge up because it would cut out their escape route. The point of this operation wasn't destroying German units in the Netherlands but opening the route into Germany so whether they would retreat or not wouldn't matter as much.

So yeah - optimism was sky high and that's why it flopped.

>montgomery was a hack fraud

why do us films always portray him as a bumbling idiot

he just did things his way and was ruthlessly efficient, just unlucky

fuck off to int, you're the cancer of this board

>why do us films always portray him as a bumbling idiot
Because he was hack fraud who's all successes were thanks to Harold Alexander

no secret that america has a better army than everyone else

Look before you slip, slip right to avoid a collision, the lower jumper has the right of way....

AAAARGGGGGGGAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH

u had me until you sourced wikipedia

>mfw just watched A Bridge Too Far again last night

why do the British ruin everything?

>why does history always portray him accurately

I always felt we tried to go a bridge too far

The American army is infamously terrible
What makes the American military powerful is numbers and funding

The guy on the left is an airsofter. The guy on the right is a POG that stays at a base doing civilian tier work all day.

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Hmmm

Hmmmmmm

Hmmmmmmmmm

Fat bastard and a female. Probably National Guard.

POG

POG or NG in the motor pool.

You're not going to see any pictures of these fatties in combat.

Was it autism?

Doesn't matter, the fact is that your army is absolute shit that doesn't even enforce basic physical training standards
>best army in the world
Lmaoing at your life

You can find a billion pictures of non-combatants from other military forces that are totally out of shape. If they manage to scrape by the bare minimum standards, then they keep them around. Nobody cares if the guy who works in the supply warehouse is in peak physical condition.

theguardian.com/world/2008/mar/06/germany.armedforces

Find me a pic of a fat British soldier

Search bubbling is a helluva drug.

telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/defence/8538939/Half-of-British-soldiers-are-obese-or-overweight.html

Jokes on you I'm Finnish :^)

>The American army is infamously terrible

>people unironicallly believe this

you probably believe the British were "more professional and competent" in WW2 too

>Jokes on you I'm Finnish :^)

Delet

I can't understand why they didn't do it along the coast, where they would at least be protected from flanking on one side by the sea and could even use the sea to ferry in tanks like they did on the Normandy d-day. Or they could have attacked further inland, near the Alps, where there would be the less rivers and bridges to cross and other choke-points. It seems Monty chose the absolute worse place to actually do the offensive.

There weren't no roads there nig nog. The route chosen was more or less a straight shot, necessary for the rapid advance needed. Of course this advance hinged on the Germans barely delaying the advance.

He was a lean, mean PR machine. Tactically pretty dogshit but he sure could pretend it was all him.