/civ4xg/ - Strategy/4X General

This thread is for all strategy games that do not have their own thread, focusing on 4X (eXplore, eXpand, eXploit, eXterminate, genocide).
/cbg/ /rtsg/ /wgg/

How fares your empire, /civ4xg/?
Eris Quod Sum: The World is but my toy edition

>Civilization Resources
- Fix for Civ IV BTS XML errors: dropbox.com/sh/ljdms8ygix2btcs/AACC_IGIy7zAkomwA6S4DJp3a?dl=0
- Civilization Analyst (Civ VI, Civ V, BE) well-of-souls.com/civ/index.html
- CivFanatics Database and Forums civfanatics.com/
- Wiki of all Civ games civilization.wikia.com/wiki/Civilization_Games_Wiki
- Browser Civ game, similar to civ2 play.freeciv.org
- /civ4xg/ steam group steamcommunity.com/groups/civ4xg

>Civilization VI
hydra-media.cursecdn.com/civ6.gamepedia.com/2/29/District_Cheat_Sheet.png?version=07510f0f43d7188e00e7046c90360dba

>Civilization V
- CIVILOPEDIA Online (Civ V) dndjunkie.com/civilopedia/
- Civ V drafter georgeskleres.com/civ5/
- Civ V Giant Multiplayer Robot - multiplayerrobot.com

>Civilization modding
- Wiki for Civ modding modiki.civfanatics.com/index.php/Main_Page
- Civ V mod workshop steamcommunity.com/workshop/browse?appid=8930
- Civ V mods forums.civfanatics.com/forumdisplay.php?f=393
- More mods pastebin.com/5ANRmRur

>Stellaris Resources
- Mod archive mega.nz/#F!hpBCSbCC!vZNs1Qhip_UJQPSSdoZjUg
- Mod recommendations pastebin.com/qsTFCyvh

>Endless Legend Resources
Manual cdn.akamai.steamstatic.com/steam/apps/289130/manuals/User'sManual.pdf?t=1413562467
Wiki 1 endless-legend.wikia.com/wiki/Endless_Legend_Wiki
Wiki 2 endlesslegendwiki.com/Endless_Legend_Wiki

>Alpha Centauri (SMAC & SMAX) resources
- Essential improvements pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Sid_Meier's_Alpha_Centauri#Essential_improvements

>get spotted
>"f-f-f-fcuk off because muh feelings"

True. Valkyria Chronicles and Advance War are closer to puzzle games than real strategy. Same with Homeworld, it's not strategy.

2nd for genocide

>get spotted
OP told me to keep it in the other thread so I'm not going to argue about the definitions anymore, but I hope you realize that there's loads of people here who frequent /gsg/.

>I'm not going to argue
>but I'll whine anyway because I'm autistic
Lol okay. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

5th for Steel Division

>Valkyria Chronicles and Advance War are closer to puzzle games than real strategy
>being an actual 'everything that I don't like isn't real strategy' pro
m8
I told you to keep it in the last thread you cancerous faggot, it'll still live for another 30 minutes.

I've been here for longer than you have and will be here when you're long gone, redditor. Unless you succeed in fucking Veeky Forums further down the hole, then maybe I'm out.

What happened to "I'm fucking off because I can't argue"? Oh, right, you're a liar on top of everything else.

When did I say I'm fucking off? Are you high now?

A liar on top of being autistic. What a nice combo.

ok

SO HOW ABOUT THEM STRATEGIES
ANY CIV V MOD REMAKES YOU'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO FOR CIV VI, OR MAYBE JUST NEW MODS THAT LOOKS PROMISING?

4x isn't a definition for the genre, it's a description of the genre, a marketing one at that

look at how things are actually done, board game like tiles, the city management, typically turn based, the research, diplomacy, even the goodie huts etc.

games can deviate from this formula and still have enough familiar mechanics to label it 4X

whereas grand strategy games tend to not have cities in the same sense but has production spread all over the map

pls just talk about something else like

>ANY CIV V MOD REMAKES YOU'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO FOR CIV VI

I'm enjoying it

>trying to argue against /gsg/ be like

ON THE ELEVENTH OF NOVEMBER AN INDEPENDENT STATE

>/gsg/ are civilized romans
>people arguing against them are niggers

>niggers
Back to /pol/.

Rome fell against 1) Barbarian hordes and 2) Itself.
So I guess you got it pretty spot on there.

>trying to argue against /gsg/ be like

Nigger please

t. nigger

>Romans
>self-absorbed decadent faggot who fucked little boys and spent more time fighting each others than fighting the barbarians
Seems accurate.

t. G*rman

>get banned yesterday for calling someone snownigger
>all this

Why are mods such faggots?

I have no idea why you would have gotten banned for that.

I've been banned for nigger and other dumb shit too

Hey mod, you're a fucking nigger lmao.

Mod was probably a snownigger

I once got banned for talking about Japanese beer on /jp/. Namely Tsing Tao.

Still haven't figured out why, beer is pretty otaku.

Tsingtao is Chinese beer though you dumbass.

I have a question for people more savvy at Civ6 than me.

I play with Barbarians turned off because I am a gigantic throbbing pussy who wants to simply pursue a Science victory. Late in my latest game a whole load of random Barbarian units, some being pretty fucking advanced, spawned and attacked Jerusalem, who was my nearest city-state neighbour.

Why the fuck did these guys spawn even though they were turned off from the get go? It wasnt a problem or anything, I sent some Modern Armour to crush them but I was just perplexed as to why they existed in the first place

Any thoughts?

Those are rebels, I'm pretty sure.

>otakus are all japanese
Yeah, right.

barbarians are super fucking easy how big of a pussy do you have to be

...well no, but Otaku culture is Japanese only.

Not in Civ VI to be honest, depending on your luck
Especially if you play on Marathon, you get insane shit like 2 horse archers every 3 turns when it takes you ten to create a warrior

As I said, a gigantic, throbbing pussy.

I just want my sweet science.

>barbarians don't scale with game length
>playing on marathon

If they do, their scaling is kind of broken
Mind you they're only 'hard' at the very beginning of the game because of how many there are, esp. if they spawn next to Horses or Iron.

>Otaku culture is Japanese only
Then why are they all speaking English in /jp/?

And where can I talk about Romance of the Three Kingdoms, then?

>RotK
/eagg/? Veeky Forums? Not /jp/ you faggot, lurk the fuck moar. Actually just Get Out of /jp/, don't have muh marisa image ready but imagine it.

Who the fuck is Marisa?

get out of /jp/ faggot

arr rook shame

>Found a (human) colony
>Within year it's entirely populated by lizardmen

open borders treaty was a mistake

>no deportation edict

>where can I talk about Romance of the Three Kingdoms, then?
/fgog/ :v)

Just like real life

...

>found colony
>fully functioning and productive within a year
>mistake

>agreeing to (((migration treaties)))

>can't spread your culture with taqqiya

Hey, /jp/ why is Yuuka so popular?

Because she got raped by bugs or something.

fell asleep after I posted originally, but its because after playing dow 3 beta, it just feels like dow 1 but a bit shittier in some ways, a bit better in others it really isn't moba related at all. Some people said that but when they played the closed beta their opinion changed instantly. It has a ton of issues but thats okay.

What's the deal with the gas giant dwellers? Do they keep using player's empire for taxi service?

Hye /jp/, why is Hatate so hated?

I have no idea what their significance is, but they're incredibly annoying. It's only like six or seven quests anyway.

Hatates gonna hatate

Because her butt is sexy.

Devs are shit at making fun events or an interesting diplomacy system, so they just make fetch-quests in a fucking grand strategy game.

Same deal with the Nomads. They ask to shit out their pops on a random planet and I say sure, and as soon as they leave I immediately enslave them, because the aim of the devs was just to poop an AI empire right in the middle of yours.

They really really really need a diplomacy system in Stellaris that isn't glorified "GIBS ME DAT".

>glorified "GIBS ME DAT".
That's what diplomacy is in real life, so I think you're expecting too much.

>what is blackmail
>what is spying
>what is bluffing
>what are favors
>what is loyalty

>loyalty
>tfw will never forget based automatons sticking with me right to the end in my first game of ES

they betrayed me the very next turn after winning but it's really cool that they aren't completely driven by this "player about to win declare war grrr" mentality, enough so they can stay loyal to the end.

>they betrayed me
If there's one thing I learned with strategy games, it's that the AI cannot be trusted.

it wasn't until after I had won though, so they could be trusted, it was possible for their loyalty to exceed the bullshit win thing

I don't think so. It's just that Stellaris is crippled by the lack of in-game currency, and so you're just trading resources back and forth. That makes it impossible to parlay in any meaningful manner, because resources are capped and eventually the AI will have so much of them it won't care what you have to say about anything. Trading dies. So the late-game is just AI blobbing up into federations and then staring at each other.

Late game crises aren't an issue either when you can win by attacking immediately, which most AI federations do now. So dreams of having a long drawn-out decades long epic war aren't going to happen.

So in short, others factions are just markets.

>So dreams of having a long drawn-out decades long epic war aren't going to happen

War in Heaven seems to go forever

>TW mentioned last thread
Let's just say it's not gs for the sake of the general remaining separate please.

Markets that you can fight.

Really shitty market then.

How do I fix this?

>AI offering 1 for 1

This literally never happens to me and every time I try to suggest that myself they call it "Unacceptable", it's infuriating

>AI offers 1 resource for one resource
ok
>THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE!
Then why are you offering you dumb cunt

Happens to me all the time in that game
Probably because I am shitting minerals on early game harder than I have ever managed to do even on mid game in other games

>200 per month on 2240
I dont even know what to do with them, I dont have terraforming tech and my largest ships are destroyers that cost like 150 min

ded

>the post was about Civ
>i only now realised

Eh
Whatever to bump the thread I guess

Thanks for the help faggots

?

what are energy credits if not currency?

What are you trading for tho?
Ive never traded anything with the ai except tech in any 4x game ever

>have too much energy, not enough minerals
>buy minerals
>need strategic resource to build certain thing
>trade something you have in excess
>need luxuries to get bonus

etc.

My current financial planning is
>stack up max energy credits through trading minerals
>go to war
>enforce peace just before going bunkrupt
>repeat

I find it more efficient

Get more armies and you'll be able to win wars in half as much time.

Just 3 armie groups
>1 titan
>2 space muhrines
>2 xenomorphs
>4 clone warriors

Madnuss
Dont even have to wait for planet fortifications to go down

>This thread is for all strategy games that do not have their own thread

Is Civ 5 this slow to load or is it my toaster toasting

Modded Civ 5 is incredibly slow to load on single core computers and those running 32bit instead of 64.

I'll take no.2 for 500, Alex.

As far as I remember all civs were slow to load
>i stopped on IV

Is V any good?

no

I mean apart from the Veeky Forums-we-hate-everything thing

I really liked the whole religion/civics thing on IV
Did V moved more towards this direction?

it didn't even include them in the base game

there's a demo, just try that

>it didn't even include them in the base game


I havent played civ for years and this made me mad

>see that first encampment
>shouldn't be a problem
>rush my legions in
>there is a second encampment right behind the first
N-NANI?!