Let's be honest, Islam is fucking pathetic and pretty much anyone who isn't a muslim himself hates it.
This religion literally spread through forceful conquest. While Christianity spread by sending peaceful missionaries, Islam spread by sending the sword.
Michael Lewis
The majority of Veeky Forums is anti-Islam and has more prejudice and bias of Muslims because their opinions come from YouTube videos and the Media Lies of Islam.
You don't have to be a Muslim, but to know Islam, you have to read the Quran rather than condemn Islam without ever actually understanding what it is.
Andrew Williams
>While Christianity spread by sending peaceful missionaries
I'm not so sure. Pagans in europe were persecuted
Gavin Nguyen
Lol peaceful missionaries who manipulated the inhabitants to submit their rational mind in exchange for natural resources in their imperialistic conquest.
Levi Bailey
I would suggest you to educate yourself, especially when it comes to the spread of Chrisitanity in pretty much every non-european area.
Justin Rogers
[citation needed]
Jonathan Gomez
>Discussion of religion is clearly allowed on this board. these threads are the cancer that is killing Veeky Forums
Benjamin Bailey
This, christianity unlike other non-abrahamic religions is really focused on a slave mentality and social control. Jesus Christ had some good ideas but the religious insitution fucked up everything. Also, the "give the other cheek" always trigered me... i mean, real life isn't fuckin undertale (unfortunately) ffs
Christian Sanchez
>widespread oppression and persecution of pagans and heretics under the late Roman Empire and throughout the Middle Ages by the Catholic Church >the invasion and forced conversion of the native population of the Americas >colonization and imperialism throughout Sub-Saharan Africa and much of Asia >the Crusades and the Reconquista >"""peaceful"""
>charlemagne >peaceful missionary >4,000 dead saxons
Levi Peterson
>widespread oppression and persecution of pagans and heretics under the late Roman Empire and throughout the Middle Ages by the Catholic Church The Catholics did some dumb shit when they eventually became the majority in Europe, I won't deny this
But when they started converting the vikings for example, it was always done peacefully
>the invasion and forced conversion of the native population of the Americas
They didn't force anyone convert, simply a lie. Well, if they wanted to own land they had to be Christian though, and some natives decided to convert because of this and became land owners
>colonization and imperialism throughout Sub-Saharan Africa and much of Asia Nothing to do with religion
>the Crusades and the Reconquista the name Reconquista should say enough, they were taking back land stolen from the muslims in the first place
William Morgan
>While Christianity spread by sending peaceful missionaries
what are the Northern Crusades what are the Teutonic Knights what is the massacre and forced conversion of the Anglo-Saxons what is the conquest of South and Central America what is the conquest of the Philippines what is the Spanish Inquisition what is the medieval Inquisition etc etc
2/10 made me reply
Jaxon Bell
I bet you pick cherries for a living
Blake Brown
>This religion literally spread through forceful conquest
The Islamic Empires spread through conquest (like every other empire before it and after it).
The Islamic religion did not. Muslim Emperors and Caliphs actually discouraged conversion to Islam among their non-Muslim subjects because they relied on jizya from their non-Muslim subjects as a source of tax revenue.
Adrian Foster
well no shit
Christianity is for nu-male beta cucks, faggots, and gospel niggers
Islam is for warriors, alpha males, and steroid abusers
Kevin Reyes
>But when they started converting the vikings for example, it was always done peacefully
They had wars over christianity, in Norway the Christians and pagans met in a battle (some thousands on each side). Despite the christians losing this, their leader, Olaf became a saint, still is in Russia. Before that you had f.eks Olav Trygvasson of who tortured jarls and people to convert, he later went to Jerusalem to possibly wash away hiw gruesome deeds.
>They didn't force anyone convert, simply a lie. Well, if they wanted to own land they had to be Christian though, and some natives decided to convert because of this and became land owners.
Besides that there were as today, barely anyone living in Scandinavia, it had no cities.
Jaxson Myers
>Besides that there were as today, barely anyone living in Scandinavia, it had no cities.
That sentence was referring to the Americas
Michael Campbell
>Islam spread by sending the sword.
Obvious bait is obvious but saying this makes you look like a retard.
The caliphate was spread by the sword. Islam was spread by taxing the fuck out of non muslims and was so profitable that there was genuine debate in the early caliphate about whether to limit the number of conversions.
As a religion Islam is much more logical , simple, less-retarded than Christianity.
Oliver Richardson
>look mom I posted it again!
Noah Barnes
>pretty much anyone who isn't a muslim himself hates it. Wrong.
>This religion literally spread through forceful conquest. While Christianity spread by sending peaceful missionaries, Islam spread by sending the sword.
This matters today because? There are many extremists on both sides. You know Kony? Go google the name of his army. To save you the trip it's called The Lord's Resistance army, heavily Christian, doing the lords work. How much do you hear about them? How many other Christians are doing extremists things which are simply not portrayed in the media?
People kill people, society forces people into these actions. Others will then use any means necessary to justify this so as to allow them to remain ignorant in the real going ons.
It's easier to destroy Islam, it's not so easy to change your whole society and the way your peoples think.
Not many people outside the first world ACTUALLY care. Our media is so prevalent to us your view of reality gets warped.
Brandon Walker
Lmfao Christian Spanish mothafuckas done bodied my Aztec niggas...and Spanish Inquisition was pretty fucked up
Juan Rodriguez
Kek butthurt mudslime
Cooper Nelson
meme answer
Charles Scott
not an argument
Samuel Hall
Butthurt christcuck
Cooper Wright
Not him but he has a point
Joshua Cooper
no he doesn't unless you're some edgy teen from /pol/ of course
Cooper Clark
Dogma based faiths are all bad, but Islam is currently chief among them because of how relatively many devout muslims there are, how comparatively little contradiction exists in islam (meaning less plurality of thought within the faith), the fact that we are approaching a time when technology is advanced enough that an extremist group might produce their own WMD, and the fact that Islam claims immutability .
A few generations from now the children of moderates may well be extremist, there are no guarantees since faith is usually hereditary. As long as it is believed, this risk exists.
We can talk about interpretation being important but the source text is immutable, so there are only so many ways one can dance around that with interpretation. There are only a so likely interpretations of a given passage people are most likely to arrive at. All humans suffer from fear of mortality so the temptation to put aside reason in exchange for divine favor is ever-present; and thus so is the motivation to follow the more destructive interpretations,
And yeah other stuff matters to development besides just religion, but what one is taught is still significant. Even if one is intelligent enough to reason it's false, fear of mortality tempts otherwise reasonable people to attempt unreasonable potential solutions.
Andrew Torres
The Saxons raided the franks, thus Charlemagne baptized them, because he believed if they were christians like them they would stop, but they continued their murders and pillage, so he killed the men but he spared the children and the women
He was kind hearted imo
Alexander Perry
>peaceful missionaries
Jack James
Are you trying to imply Christian faith is not immutable? And that simply the retardation of "your" believers led it to be 'up for interpretation'. You understand """"""""the""""""""" bible says the exact fucking opposite?
You are a literal retard. But yes, 100% of all muslims follow their belief to the fullest extent. Even though it's the 'extremists' which are doing just that. Every single muslim is therefore an extremist.
Your reasoning is impeccable.
Ryan Watson
Don't have a horse in the race mate but ifyou are going to talk shit about something you may as well do it somewhat accurately.
Colton Gonzalez
Western christianity and all of its variants are also pretty shit and pathetic.
The only good abrahmic is Orthodox Christianity
Kayden Ward
>Christianity spread peacefully
Because the European Pagan persecutions never happened, and the Spanish Conquistadors never violently forced their dogma...
Jack Long
At least he's acknowledging that the cherries he's picking actually exist, rather than pretending that the cherry tree never produced any fruit.