What's Veeky Forums's thoughts on the foxbody...

What's Veeky Forums's thoughts on the foxbody? I've seen a bunch of different opinions on them so i figured i'd get the raw truth here

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Ford LTD Mustang a gud, GUD. Looks almost like an Aussie Falcon.

its literally garbage.

im sure someone is going to come in here and tell you it's good "as long as you change literally everything about it".

2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th gen mustangs deserve to be forgotten in junkyards
>this triggers the redneck

>tfw you keep forgetting pictures with your posts and having to delete them today
>tfw people keep replying to you within a minute

One of the worst cars ever built.
>Very heavy
>Slow
>Shiftily built
>Terrible handling
>Wet noodle chassis
But dumb rednecks in trailers will pretend it's a god machine because it's the only v8 they could afford, and v8 means fast despite it making barely over 200hp while weighing about 3200lbs. If they do acknowledge it's a piece of shit they'll tell you "it's a good tuning platform" which is not because everything about it is awful and aforementioned noodle chassis.

Most mind boggling of all is they weren't even that cheap because of all the trailer park delusions of grandeur have driven up the price.

*Shittily built
This is what I get for phone posting

>between 3000 and 3200lb
>Very heavy

what a embarrassment to the Mustang name

>Stupid rednecks think 3000+lbs is acceptable for something with 200hp
Lmao

>Did you mean the 2 door ford escort

Lmao fucking Jap lover go jerk off to some hentai, first of all it is lighter than any other mustang preceding that's why it is light, secondly it was produced terribly as a change in ownership of the company had occured so that's why it was possibly shittily built. All in all though it's not a half bad car.

>this assmad

kek

>Gives objective reasons why the car is or isn't shit
>Jap loving tard doesn't know what to say to combat it or even agree or disagree
>Just says assmad

Ok bud

i love it. at least it stands out from all the modern soap shit cars

Spot the one that doesnt belong.

I love em.
the good:
>relatively powerful and very torquey v8
>easy to work on
>easy to modify (and you will end up modding it)
>surprisingly roomy inside, I'm 6'5" and I fit in it but not a similarly sized miata.
>gets a lot of respect/interest
>cheap to buy/insure

the bad:
>gas guzzler
>terrible handling
>30 years old
>looks (acquired taste)
>normies will think it's a Honda

I smoke these in my ws6.
All day bro. If they have their girl in the car, I bet on her panties.
Guess what. I got a lot of girly panties in my back seat bro.
Smokin niggas all day.
Cotton panies to sniff to wack my fucking dick off

They're so ugly that it doesn't even matter how fast you make it

Best platform ever made.

>S-since you dare call one of the worst sports cars ever built garbage you are a meanie head that only likes Japanese c-cars!

>Everything about it is terrible, b-but it's not half bad!

What do you know, rednecks and mongoloids responding as predicted.

To me, it doesn't really look like a sports car. It looks like a mid-level hot hatch. I'm not saying it looks bad - far from it, I love the design and it's quite timeless, but it just doesn't strike me as a car people should be ricing out and cramming V8's into. I'd honestly rather have the 4 cylinder version so I could get decent mileage as a DD.

>relatively powerful and very torquey v8
Ahahaha 220hp from a 5.0 V8.
>easy to work on
Like clockwork
>easy to modify (and you will end up modding it)
As predicted
>gets a lot of respect/interest
Lmfao, from who? Dudes with mullets or the occasional nigger?
>cheap to buy/insure
Wrong again. Every hillfucker has driven prices up on these turds.

its a truly awful ugly pile of shit

the only redeeming value it has is aftermarket and thats because its so garbage it needs it

its the American S chassis but probably even more floppy and much worse handling

hey now

its a 4.9L V8

go easy on the laughter

The problem is the 4 cylinder is dangerously slow. 105hp and 2800lbs.
>11 second 0-60
>20mpg
Truly an astoundingly shit car.

It's the only mustang I like, truly a guilty pleasure

>""""""""Objective reasons"""""""""
>Durrr it weighs less than other fatass mustangs so it's good even though it's shit engine and garbage chassis can't take advantage of it
>It was shit because a change of ownership! That makes it better!
These retards will defend these turds until they die.

I'm surprised hardly anyone has defended it considering people defend shit cars on this board to their death.
Personally I've always thought they were trash compared with what you can get instead.
Having a massive aftermarket doesn't really excuse the fact that you have to utilize everything offered to make it even decent.
I don't even think it's a good drag car and all you need to be a good strong car is a strong axle.

>Foxbody after 4th gen
>neither SN95 or New Edge show up at all

Foxbody is a project car. Not a daily driver. Not a car to impress your date. It's old. It's ugly. It's meant to be put in a garage or in the backyard on the lawn because it's an old rusted pile of shit by now.

But it's fast and most importantly it reminds people of a simpler time.

Coolest, smallest mustang.

>Fast
It's not.

its not the smallest and it damn sure isnt the coolest hell its probably the lamest Mustang

>But it's fast
I don't think so tim

What is the smallest? To me it's the coolest tho.

mustang II? you fuckin casual

Mustang II is smaller

early first gens are narrower and shorter but like 2 inches longer

both are lighter

I see. For some reason the foxbody just looked smaller to me going off photos, but it is a bit longer than the II. It's a bit more narrow, though.

best platform

They're the best, you can make them do anything.

What do you want? A coupe, hatchback, sedan or station wagon?

What do you want it to do?

Theres so much aftermarket shit for them that you can literally make a fox platform car do whatever you want

Drag race? Yep.
Handle? That too
Drift? Yeah
DD that can do it all within reason? Yep

Damn dude I thought you left. Good to see you're still here, even if the sites just gotten shittier.

>tfw i sold my foxbody when they were worthless


fug

Good news is SN95s are still cheap. Pick up a 94 or 95 and it'll even still have the 5.0.

>200hp
lmao indeed

Good news is they're stupid cheap to unchoke.

and still make shitty power

I don't get why one of the other guys in here was being stupidly argumentative, but 300+ crank hp is respectable enough for cheap. More if you put a cam in it. It wasn't until DI, other fun stuff that we got a lot more out of N/A motors here in murica. Considering the design of the block dates back to the 50s as well, it's not all that bad. Not to mention you don't want to put much more than 300 wheel through the stock trans if you ever run drag slicks.

I don't care about them much either way. They aren't particularly great so much as they're easy to work on and have an aftermarket that's extensive.

Not only that there's a foxbody for every occasion like said. You can make them do anything with a bit of time and money and work.

I can see the appeal but I can see why people don't like them as they're not stellar out of the box. Would I own one? Honestly maybe if I could find a decent shape Capri, or anything with the 2.3 because I like the SVO and turbo bird for some reason.

I'm aware

yes 300hp from a modded 4.9l engine is impressive

>It wasn't until DI, other fun stuff that we got a lot more out of N/A motors here in murica

nah just Ford

Ford V8s have always been shit without forced induction

what the fuck is that one before the foxbody

a ruined Mustang II

>Best platform
that's not the Panther platform or the FN platform

what the fuck is that and why is it in a lineup of official ford mustang lineup?

It's a cherrypicked video. That II has the worthless excursion v10 in it too, lol.

because when it was being showed off at car shows people ate it up

personally I think its ugly as hell and for whatever reason they used a Triton V10

its being rebuilt now since it was in this trailer

It's by no means impressive, but again, it's *cheap*. You can get a fox to over 300 crank for much less than an S197 GT costs to buy. If all you want is straight line speed, or have a lower starting budget but are willing to wrench and put money into a car, it's not a half-bad option.

>Ruined Mustang II

There wasn't much to ruin honestly.

>Mustang with a V10
>Mustang with anything but a V8
is this supposed to bother me? Because it does

I dont mind a V6 poor option, but a V10?

>Itt: Hondabois pretending to forget that you can modify engines.
It's ok to talk about mods when you're doing it to your jap shitbox but fox body mustangs are doomed to have 200hp and no mods allowed.

yeah but you can just cheaply boost an import these days

and Foxbody prices arent exactly cheap anymore (unless you want to count the SN95)

theyre not that good for the money anymore

nah but they couldve made it look better and not used a fucking Triton

hell they couldve used the Monroe Handler and had a vintage build

The v10 itself isn't the problem, the fact that it's the Triton is the problem. Dude went full brandfag instead of putting a viper or whatever engine into it.

to be fair, putting a dodge engine in a ford car feels blasphemous too

This is true, they've escalated in price but they're still a solid buy for cheap, much like old civics. I'd argue they're cheaper to add power to and boosting something as well, because the cheap route is literally junkyard parts, an exhaust, and a head rebuild kit for said junkyard parts.

Oh you're really gonna hate this
youtu.be/glgiiBHVc1A
*than boosting something

I agree that the thing is shit and using a Triton was stupid, unique but stupid.

I'm just saying though, while I don't like what they did, at least they did it to a II instead of an early first generation or something

>If you do enough work to a car that's terrible in every way, it won't be terrible anymore!
Or, you know, you could get something that isn't straight garbage to start with.

It's almost like most of the haters in this thread don't know how easy it was to increase the power on these old V8 engines. 210hp stock, 350hp easily. 500 with more money.

people junkyard build imports all the time

440whp from a junkyard diesel HX35 on an ancient Mazda 2.2 with stock bottom end and shit

I dunno I just think the Foxbody is past the point of being a cheap goto car

it and the Miata are both beyond that now

first gens get EV conversions

yeah 350 when you swap out intake heads headers exhaust and cam

302s are shit engines man

It's not the engine's fault it was choked stock.
What in these things' (former) price range was faster?
>putting 500 through a WC T5
>500 from a 302 without a cradle

You can get 320-330 without the cam and the rest of that stuff is dirt cheap and easy.

>NO MODIFICATION ALLOWED UNLESS HONDA CIVIC

>yeah 350 when you swap out intake heads headers exhaust and cam
>302s are shit engines man
So what's your point? You're talking $500 in parts. People spend more than $500 on an intake and exhaust for japshit to make 26 extra horsepower.

Maybe a bit more than 500, and import cars are allowed junkyard parts as well. All depends of what quality of parts you want and your fabrication and wrenching skills.

>first gens get EV conversions
I don't want to live in this timeline anymore.

its more that the 302 is garbage and you have to replace everything to make any power

thats what hes saying

$500 my ass

you cant play that game when I gained 30whp for $10 at a Home Depot

turbo motherfucker

I think EV conversions can be cool if done right.
You both are idiots talking out of your ass. Right now, go and make parts lists of things you'd do to x engines and we'll see how much it costs.

I dont think itd be $500 to get it to 350 unless youre counting nitrous

I do believe youre the one talking out of your ass

Where the fuck are you going to find headers, the rest of the exhaust, and a cam for like 200? Gt40 intake and heads with a rebuild kit for higher rpm will be around 300.

...

A R34 Skyline is garbage 270 hp and piglard heavy stock.
A MK4 Supra is garbage 300 lb and piglard heavy stock.
An FD RX7 is weak 255 hp and no torque garbage stock.
A 1995 honda civic is a cheap junky 100hp economy car.
A 95 MR2 is an asthmatic 200hp car with twitchy as fuck handling.

See the thing is, "youve to to replace everything to make power then it's awesome"
Why are you all of the sudden pretending that there is some kind of imaginary line when it comes to modifications?

Didn't MR2s make 130? Or are you talking turbo?

Also FDs were and are still hella expensive, but approaching 10/1 power-weight ratio isn't terrible. And because it revs high, you can get torque back from gearing low.

>I think EV conversions can be cool if done right.
not on a fucking mustang it can't

I liked the EV DeLorean, because it really worked with the whole futurist angle the car is famous for, but a Mustang is a Mustang. You don't ruin perfection

R34 GTR - 330-350hp stock - makes over 350whp with just upped boost

MK4 Supra makes 320hp stock - makes 450whp with exhaust and boost

FD RX7 makes 255-280hp - makes over 300whp with exhaust and boost

1995 Honda Civic - 100-160hp - runs 12s for a couple grand using an ebay turbo

95 MR2 - 200hp - makes 300whp with exhaust and boost

Foxbody - 200hp - makes 350 crank hp with heads intake cam headers and exhaust

>12s for a couple grand using an eBay turbo

>I think EV conversions can be cool if done right.

No thanks.

I like some electric cars, and find them interesting sure, but I don't see much of a reason to start doing swaps on cars especially older ones.

>trying this hard to be stupid

lol

Foxbody fags btfo

keep defending your collASSal shit

>runs 12s for a couple grand using an ebay turbo
you'd need like 500hp to run 12s in a civic.

no the fuck you dont

a 500hp Civic is like a 9-10 second car

it doesnt even take 300hp for a Civic to run 12s

I'm supposed to take you seriously when your argument is "lol teh tarbo enjins r moar simpler 2 mayke powher juss rays the boos"

No
Shit
Famalam

That has fuck all to do with the point.
You fucking summerfags have literally got to be spoonfed everything.

>you'd need like 500hp to run 12s in a civic.>>

lel

>Pathetic strawman

kek

sorry your engine is shit and cant make any power

>This triggers the redneck
Prophecy fulfilled.

rednecks drive 8,000 pound cars with 200hp v8's you dumbfuck

Remember when we used to be able to have nice threads?

>le few simple mods on applies to civics

I'm not even a v8 guy retard, I drive a 2008 MS3. I just know a stupid argument when I see one. To further my point
>Put $5000 into a stock mk4 supra
>Put $5000 into a stock late 80s foxbody mustang
I'll guarantee you that race will be much closer than you think.

mustangandfords.com/how-to/engine/mmfp-0910-building-400hp-into-a-5-0-l-small-block-engine/
$1000 into a 5.0 ford engine, including the cost of the engine.
>399 whp.
>not already knowing this shit