>I asked this question a few days ago in /dbt/ but the answers quickly digressed into off topic fighting
I am going Tuesday to buy a new motorcycle, it will be used 90% on road with minimal light trail riding (have a 300exc for that). I plan on riding around 1-1500 miles a month, I am torn between the 701 and the FE501 bikes. I live in the foothills of the Appalachian mountains so all of my riding would be on back twisty roads. I am looking at each bike this way
FE501 >240lbs >~60ish HP >best to do oil changes every 500miles >check valves every 1000 miles
701 >320lbs >71ish HP >oil change every 3000 miles >check valves every 12,000 miles
The weight difference between the two cancels out the HP advantage of he 701 so at that point it's basically a matter of maintenance. I don't mind the *idea* of the maintenance schedule of the 501 however in practice it may be a different story. Should I just go with the bike I want? Or should I be more pragmatic in my choice and buy the 701?
Nathan Kelly
Supersport
Jace Ward
Pretty sure the 501 is made with competitive dirt racing in mind, not regular road riding. That maintenance schedule would be a catastrophe for a road bike.
Mason Long
>it will be used 90% on road >buys an enduro
Caleb Ramirez
I disagree my dad has a 500exc (same motor) and he has over 10,000km on it without a rebuild. And that includes dirt riding. If OP keeps it on road I imagine it will go a lot farther.
Jacob Reed
i would rather be no bike than do oil changes every 4 days and valve adjustments every 8 days.
Juan Cox
Plate your 300 for dirt days, do a South Dakota non resident title and plate if your state is a nigger about plating dirt bikes.
Then get a 701sm.
Xavier Adams
My state is a nigger, I was actually going to drive to a friendly state that plates bikes and buy one of the new TPI 300s, but they aren't hitting the states until 2018 fall.
North Carolina is a nigger and a half when it comes to plating bikes.
Tyler Rodriguez
Bikes are about having fun, so get the one you want. Otherwise you will always be wishing you had bought what you wanted.
Grayson Perez
There is a thread on Supermotojunkies.com on how to plate your 300 through SD, simple as hell and you'll be out less than $100. Then transfer a plated bike back into NC to get your state plate. I did this with my WR450 for California which is full double nigger for plating bikes.
William Ortiz
Never gonna make it
Nathan Hall
Who the fuck buys a $10k dirt bike?
Carson Carter
> go be poor somewhere else.
Logan Brown
>go be dumb somewhere else
Btfo don't even reply
Connor Kelly
>it will be used 90% on road Get the 701
Or a street bike
Hudson Young
>streetbike
Why does every fucking squid on the planet think a street bike is the only thing you can buy to ride on the street? Enduros are way more fun on the street.
Bentley Flores
>implying I'm a streetbike squid He has a dirt bike already that does the job miles better than either of those will. For 90% street work there is no reason to deal with the extra maintenance of an enduro bike over a street bike
Nicholas Lewis
Honda Africa Twin
Kevin Adams
Enduros are fun on the street, but not so much freeway.
If 90% of the riding was on thr street and he has a dirt bike already, why get an "almost" dirtbike at all? Just get street/adv bike.
Xavier Diaz
Because it's 80 pounds heavier. Riding the pigfat 701 compared to something super nimble like the 501 will be a world different riding experience. Not to mention the 501 will have a more aggressive engine which will also be more fun, and from the way OP sounds he just wants something fun.
Leo James
But I have to since it's free to REEEEEeeeeeeeeee
Anthony Hernandez
btfo sperg more
Owen Morales
>I live in the foothills of the Appalachian mountains so all of my riding would be on back twisty roads.
Maybe you missed the " all " part about backroads.
He has no need for a freeway capable bike.
The 501 would be fun as hell, especially if he supermememotos it. Changing the oil twice a month is not that bad. Keep the air filter clean and adjusting the valves will almost never happen, you should still check them every once in a while but certainly not every other oil change.
Ayden Flores
>supermememotos
Kek
Samuel Hughes
80 pounds on the road is a good thing.
Oliver Gutierrez
Get a naked bike.
Isaiah Flores
80 pounds is a good thing. More resistance to windblast.
Wyatt Phillips
mine was 14,000 cuz I bought it new. quite cheap desu
Ethan Robinson
DON'T BUY THE 501 OP
I BOUGHT A TE511 WHICH IS THE SAME SHIT AND I REGRET IT EVERYDAY.
Gabriel Jackson
100% different bike. Engine and frame are new for this year. Plus I think BMW owned them in the days of the te511.
>why do you hate it?
Isaac Bell
Fuel pump failure, puking oil, strangled from factory, EVERY SINGLE THING STRIPS, No parts availability, almost zero aftermarket.
Sebastian Reyes
I've ridden both. The 501 is awesome, quick nimble and very peppy. Feels like riding a real dirt bike on the street. Honestly with how much your riding I'd say go with the 701, if your not going to be riding off road since you've got the 300 just get the 701 SM of you can find it. 701 feels heavy and is a bit of pig but is better suited for daily driving.
Gavin Price
You simultaneously made an argument for buying the 501 over the 701.
Luis Murphy
The 511 needs serious mods/fixes to be usable.
Henry Murphy
Not applicable, totally different bike. The 511s are old as dog piss
Dominic Torres
Have you considered buying 2 bikes? If your doing 90% on road is it worth getting downsides of a trail based bike for 10% of your time?
Charles Butler
Don't forget the upside of getting a 501
>fun factor
501 will be double the fun of the 701 on the street. Although it'll be double the maintenance as well.
Kayden Hernandez
I was implying getting a gsxr750 for street and a cheap turd for trails
Ryder Taylor
honestly bro i can already tell you're a moron because no sane person would even waste their time asking this question. the 701 is easily the current GOAT in its class. if you can afford it, there is literally no reason not to get it.
Carson Allen
It's in a different class a true enduro bike compared to a high strung dirtbike that's barely legal.
Joshua Ross
So it's not made to be ridden as an enduro.
Ian Turner
>not going with the tried and true japanese bikes
its like you want shit
Oliver Williams
If you had to ask yourself what bike would give you the most versatility and fun, what would you choose? I love my sumo. I've had a couple different dedicated street bikes, but I didn't have as much fun on them. The give and take is really just seat comfort and fuel mileage for goonshit. If that's not your thing, that's fine. I personally like being able to throw my bike off of drops and makeshift jumps. You never notice how fun your environment can be until you have a foot of suspension travel. To each their own seems to be such an alien idea in our society.
Ayden Clark
80 reasons to not get it
>320 pounds vs. 240
Parker Williams
But street bikes are better in every way. So much more useable
James Sanders
>in every way Fuel range, and seat comfort. Is there something I'm missing? Even highway is about the same with the right gearing. Maintenance is grossly over-exaggerated due to the manufacturer's assumption that it's always going to be going full throttle at all times being a race bike and all. Most people I've met even enjoy wrenching on their bikes every 1k miles or so.
Mason King
>tfw cam chain tightener is busted after 10k km
Is this commonly a warranty issue?
Alexander Cook
>To each their own seems to be such an alien idea in our society. *on Veeky Forums
Elijah Rivera
>not being convinced that chainsaw manufacturers are inherently qualified to build enduro bikes
Brody Butler
if i already had a trail bike why does it make sense to buy yet another trail bike but only ride it on the road i think it is better to have a few bikes that really make the most of their strengths rather than compromise all that on one bike but everyone weighs up that compromise differently so i'm not saying you're wrong but i much prefer having two bikes, one for trail duty and fucking around with (it's road registered but not street suspension or tires) and a sport bike with far better tank range and comfort (like you say which really does make a difference, and in my opinion), and is way faster and keeps on good street tires
Owen Baker
>not thinking a gun maker is qualified to make chainsaws
Owen Long
>Appalachia where at? I like in EKY
Is there a reliable Husky dealer near you? Dealer support can be a bitch with the less popular brands, also just because a dealer sells certain brands, doesn't mean they service them. it's retarded as hell, but it happens a lot.
Ethan Ortiz
Near Greensboro in NC. There is a place about 1.5 hours from here that specializes in husky. From what I can understand they are a pretty decent shop. I'm hoping since the engine is the same as a KTM 500 I could just take it to a KTM dealer if all else fails
Camden Long
Enduro bikes are gay as fuck.
Anthony Rogers
post your bike pls
John Flores
I couldn't deal with the maintenance schedule of the 501 for a road bike. I've got a DR650 which is heavier and less powerful than the 701 and it's still a blast in the twisties and handles unpaved fire / forest service roads pretty well.
Michael Davis
My wr450 is on pilot powers and staying that way(or something better in the future) because it's total shit as a trail bike where I live. I bought it with zero intention of off-roading, actually. With an upgraded seat and tank, it's a very nice city bike. I probably should have mentioned the city part, which is where a sumo would thrive. For real, though, if you plan on being on the highway for more than an hour, it wouldn't be the best for the job, although doable. The speed part is negligible to me, personally. I don't need to go over 90 on it for any particular reason, but it does get there fairly quickly. If I planned on going cross country, I'd buy a different bike. For twisties, I've yet to have more fun on any other kind of bike, but that's purely personal preference. Try one out if you can so you can see if meme life fits you or not. Definitely not for everyone, but I do advocate it.
Levi Wright
DR650 is great bike. I had some of the best times of my life on the DR 650. I wish they would come out with a lightly updated one. It's been 20 years.
Robert Stewart
Yeah, if they updated the DR650 with a lighter, aluminum frame and updated the motor a bit with fuel injection and more power I'd sell my current DR and buy the new one immediately.
Julian Reyes
Forgot to mention my happy spot is 3 bikes. Trail, daily and long distance have very different needs to me. If you had to stop at 2, I could understand the dual-sport/sumo wouldn't have much of a necessary place in the garage if you've already got a dirt bike. Maybe a second set of wheels for the dirt bike would be more up your alley? Even stock ones with street oriented dual-sport tires would be a blast. For the second, there's way too many great choices for me to offer a recommendation. Hope you find what you like. I want an fz-10, myself!
Nathaniel Ross
100% get the 701 Supermoto. Absolutely no reason to own a 501 if you have a 300EXC. Only way I would have gotten the 501 is if I lived out in the rough country with plentiful trails and never planned on riding on the highway. I've done 1000 road miles in one day on my 701.
Jaxson Parker
KTM dealer won't touch it for warranty shit unless they're also a Husky dealer and have a certified tech.
Thomas Long
Does it make your ass hurt after a couple hours like a regular sumo? Can you jump it like one, too, or is it just a street bike dressed in drag like the hypermotard?
Luis Reyes
It's a DRZ400SM with an extra 20lbs and double the horsepower and a hydraulic clutch. The seat is slightly wider tho, not very comfy but Seat Concepts sells an off the shelf seat which I have and is great.
Connor Russell
how long did it take to get yours? did you walk into a dealer, sign papers for one there, or did you have to order? Any dealer markups?
I want to get one in maybe 1-2 years and the nearest offical Husq dealer is like 3 hrs away and their site is awful.
Easton Perry
I was on a waiting lost for 6 months to get a new 2017 Supermoto. The 2017 has an updated anyone that is noticably better for the street.
Hunter Nelson
Anyone here run their bikes on 94AKI?
Dominic Wood
Updated anyone? Not sure I follow. Also, SO seats are the business.
Ethan Brooks
That sounds like a reasonable tradeoff. Thanks for the info. I might have to ride one sometime and see if it's worth giving up my wr450(FI).
Bentley Myers
I forgot 6 speed and EFI in there.
Updated engine* Second balance shaft in the head, feels smooth like a twin now and revs 1k higher, so more power and torque.
Tyler Garcia
>90% on road with minimal light trail riding Just get a DRZ400. Both the huskies are overkill for what you want to do unless you hate yourself and like lots of maintenance (comparative to the DRZ anyway)
Jordan Martinez
The 701 is a very reliable low maintenance machine. Maybe not quite as much as a DRZ, but people go around the world on them. 501 is a race bike.
Asher Williams
>It's a DRZ400SM Dropped
William Cruz
Except that overheating amirite
Gavin Sanchez
Sounds sexy I like it
Owen Hill
>Queue another 701 for sale on Craigslist at well under new cost with
Jacob Baker
I live in North Georgia and do the same type of riding. Right now I have a KTM 625 SMC, which is the older version of the KTM 690/Husky 701, and I know there is a noticable difference between the 2, and I am looking to sell the 625 and get a 500exc. The 625 is a fun bike, but it's not anywhere as nimble, and the engine is lazier. Its a strong engine, and make an was load of low end torque, but it seems to run out of steam up top. And parts are getting harder and harder to find.
Jackson Howard
enjoy rebuilding the engine every 1000 miles.
Carson Cook
>Op specifically stated he would never see a highway on the bike
Also why would you want to do 1000 road miles on any bike in a day? Hell it would suck to do that in a car.
Brayden Morris
I sometimes get bored and just drive on the weekend and stop on a random hotel once exhausted and sleep. Drive back the next day. All highway.
Austin Morris
this is literal autism.
Lucas Price
Get the bike you lust after
Henry Brooks
>street bikes are the only thing you can ride on the street No, they're not the only thing, but they're the best thing. Why does every fucking squid on the planet think there's anything special about riding a dirt bike on the street?
Andrew Diaz
I use 87 in my CBR and DRZ, and 91 in my EXC. 94 isn't even sold here.
Jonathan Nelson
Because they take advantage of the suspension travel and light weight to have a little more "fun" more easily than someone on a regular bike could
And by fun I mean wheelies, drifting into corners, curb hopping, and running from the cops.
Isaiah Ramirez
>they take advantage of the suspension travel lol no they don't. The softer suspension feels spongy as fuck and only makes them worse on the road. >light weight Doesn't really help with anything other than making the bike get blown around by the wind more. >"fun" Subjective. I have fun on both but a proper street bike is more fun on the street overall. >wheelies, drifting into corners, curb hopping I do all those on a supersport. Why would you need a dirt bike for that? >running from cops I don't do that but see above: Why would you need a dirt bike for that?
Joshua Powell
How about I like a dualsport to actually go off-road? I'd like to see you ride TAT on a sportbike.
Evan Johnson
Good for you. This guy was talking about putting street tires on whatever he gets and specifically said he will use it almost exclusively for street riding.
Ethan Price
That's literal fun and a very old way to use a motorcycle to get away from hassles. Just pick a road and go, and today you have Waze, Google Maps, offline maps for where you've no signal, and other options so you won't get lost.
Adam Robinson
>his way of having fun is wrong compared to my way.