What have Jews historically thought of Paul and his appropriation of their religion for the benefit of gentiles?

They tend to be grouped in with the Pharisees by Christ, and ideologically I would say they were on the same page. The Pharisees specialized in preserving and passing on the oral law (it's entirely possible many were illiterate), the Scribes specialized in the history of Sanhedrin rulings, which there was a written record of; the Scribes and Pharisees both believed prior rulings were could and should be used as legal precedent, and so if you got into a debate with someone over observing the Law, you could take them down very easily if you were very familiar with court rulings, which stretched back hundreds of years.

From what little survives of the Ebionites (descendants of the original followers of Jesus, declared heretics and persecuted later on for their refusal to admit the divinity of Jesus and a number of Pauline doctrines), we know they considered Paul to be a demon, or a man possessed by a demon who compelled him to spout blasphemies and abominations.

There is a reason the Jews never accepted Christianity - it is too alien, too foreign to come close to being called the 'continuation' or 'fulfillment' of Judaism. It is rife with influence from Greek paganism and neo-Platonism, which Jewish theology cannot properly accommodate. This too, is one of the reasons that has fueled the Christian hate for Jews: the fact that the Jews never accepted Christianity, despite Christianity purporting itself to be the logical end-result of Judaism.

>descendants of the original followers of Jesus
What are you basing this on?

>vehemently hate him as with Jesus.
Why can't you goyim grasp the fact that it's you we don't like? We don't give a shit about Jesus, he could have been a myth for all we care. Muslims don't worship Jesus, and we hate them more than you.

>It is rife with influence from Greek paganism and neo-Platonism,
Also, could you elaborate on what you're referring to here? There wasn't really any Platonic elements to Christianity until Justin Martyr, who was actually -well-versed in Platonism (unlike Paul or the Apostles), and he mainly used it as a way to defend Christianity as the highest expressing and only true expression of what pagan philosophers were looking for.

Nah, Jews don't dislike goys *religiously*. Culturally, maybe some do, but Jesus they dislike as part of their religion. That's even where the term "kike" came from, illiterate Jews who signed with a circle because an x looked too much like a cross. Jews even had to use a different sign for "plus" in their mathematics.

Not the other guy, but hadn't Judaism as a whole been exposed to Platonism for two centuries by then in Alexandria? I find it hard to believe that the forms of Judaism and early Christianity in Palestine were not influenced by Platonism until Justin Martyr

The original followers of Jesus (Yeshua) were simply Jews who were of the belief that Yeshua had been a prophet, perhaps even the Messiah. However, they did not believe that he was divine, or that he had 'sacrificed' himself for mankind, or that he had come to establish a New Testament. These were all inventions of Paul, and the original disciples of Jesus (led by James) argued and disagreed with Jesus.

There is good reason to believe the Ebionites are the descendents of the original followers of Jesus (the Jerusalem Church) - they revered James, and held to a gospel of Matthew that was used alongside the Hebrew Bible; they adhered to Mosaic law, and they taught that Paul/Saul of Tarsus had been an impostor possessed by demons come to distort the law.

Jewish philosophers like Philo Judaeus were, sure. The teachers of the synagogues, not so much.

>However, they did not believe that he was divine, or that he had 'sacrificed' himself for mankind, or that he had come to establish a New Testament.
What is the basis for your assertion here?

>What is the basis for your assertion here?

Writings from the Church fathers, who detailed charges against the Ebionites, such as the denial of Christ's divinity and pre-existence, adherence to Judaism, and the levels of insult they charged at Paul the apostle.

We also have remnants of what is believed to e Ebionite-inspired literature (Recognitions of Clement and the Clementine Homilies), as well as the hypothesized Gospel of Barnabas

How does the Ebionites being Judaizers suggest they were "descendants of the original Christians"?

We know that the original Christians were simply Jews, due to disagreements between Paul and James. The Ebionites themselves had a tradition that held that they originated in Jerusalem, but fled sometime before the destruction of Jerusalem to Jordan or Arabia.

You connect the dots.

Are you referring to Galatians 2? This wasn't a debate over whether the Law was still in effect--in fact, Jewish Christians no longer following the Law is precisely why Paul accuses them of hypocrisy for not wanting to eat with gentiles (Galatians 2:14)...

>We know that the original Christians were simply Jews
No fucking shit. How does that make your anti-Pauline sect the original? Paul was literally a Pharisee. You had
>unclear doctrine on law >> resulting vacuum after Jesus's death >> schism
What makes one side of that schism more original than the other if Jesus was ambiguous himself? (define "fulfill" in Matthew 5:17)

He is one of many Jews who taught that Jesus was the awaited Messiah. Paul's conversion upsets a lot of people, and also enlightens a lot of people. He also taught there is salvation to every Jew and Gentile through Christ Jesus.

What Paul taught back then is not so widely practiced today as we assume. These early branches of Christianity have much practices that we say we can trace back through "apostolic succession" but really, we are missing a whole lot of information about the practices of Christ, the early disciples, and the apostles including Paul.

some consider him the worst for apparently misquoting scripture for his own ends

youtu.be/VlBJpObJhDU?t=34s

Jews never agree on anything.

They tried to SHUT HIM DOWN:

When the Jews saw the crowds, they were filled with jealousy. They began to contradict what Paul was saying and heaped abuse on him.
- Acts 13:45

But the Jews who refused to believe stirred up the other Gentiles and poisoned their minds against the brothers.
- Acts 14:2