/parag/ - Paragon General

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

5000 hours in ms paint edition

News & Patch Notes: epicgames.com/paragon/en-US/news

Hero Related Info:
Latest Hero - Morigesh
youtu.be/XUp6MdosW58
youtu.be/kDGpxp4MG1M
Leaks -
soundcloud.com/mehteh-trollfacer/tracks
soundcloud.com/omedamusic
imgur.com/a/fdnFM
imgur.com/a/5t1Am

MMR Tracking (community) and Other Information:
agora.gg/
fury.gg/
paragon.gg/

More Hero Build Info:
paragondb.info/calc
paragon.wikia.com/wiki/Paragon_Wiki

User IDs: pastebin.com/tMqksTK4

Previous Thread: veekyforums.com/thread/173038106/video-games

Emberfire
Emberfire

Go on a disgustingly bad run
end up in silver
One more game before bed
pic related
still get salty because murdock won't group to do anything and all he does is farm poorly in his lane
Win because Me/Aurora/Narbash get orb
give him shit after the match
tells me he doesn't care and wants to play his way.
This Murdock has to be one of the dumbest cunts I have ever played with. We won but I'm still salty at this retard.

iluvmen
iluvmen

tells me he doesn't care and wants to play his way

He rekt u nigga, you are foaming here like a cuck, while he honestly does not give a flying fuck about you, nor ur nerdrage and have probably forgotten you already. In fact, he did not even bother to remember you at all, why should he remember some mad cuck anyway?

Illusionz
Illusionz

Just tell him to abort himself like the piece of trash he is
It's that simple man.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

This post explains a lot.

viagrandad
viagrandad

in a 5 stack
we've been winning all our games
all of a sudden our carry informs us that we're up against a streamer and a master smurf
he gives up hope, I'm completely motivated
make it my goal to focus the carry/streamer
bully him all game
throw down my tether in a team fight, take him out and wipe the enemy team
rush instantly win buff
win in just around twenty minutes
Granted, his Muriel/Kwang were playing like hot garbage and the master player was just playing Morigesh when he usually plays Yin too. Either way, it was exciting, never played against a streamer or anything like that so I was pretty hyped up about it.

happy_sad
happy_sad

life as a Paragon player is suffering

TechHater
TechHater

Smurfing does not mean anything if your team is garbage

3 plats will beat 1 plat always

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Yeah, that's why I pointed out how his team was playing bad.

Snarelure
Snarelure

It takes way too fucking long to reach a master skin in this game.

The only people I ever see with them austically play the same hero. They also tend to suck ass considering that hero is all they know.

TreeEater
TreeEater

This. Like what the hell, I play this game since early access and don't have higher lvl than 7 on any hero just because I like to, you know, actually try different things and adapt to whatever team needs a the moment instead of autistically playing a single hero only? Reaching mastery should either take half as much time or be based on some kind of challlenges instead of character exp (I mean it even used to be called master challenge). It would also be nice if mastery skins were actually interesting instead of same burning shit for everyone which looks worse than basic skins for half of characters.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

austically

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

someone dodges the draft
get free stars

wtf??

Evilember
Evilember

this has been happening to me too, I don't understand it but I'm not complaining

eGremlin
eGremlin

Oh boy I can see it now.

People locking in Shinbi, Kallari and Riktor in hopes of forcing a dodge and ez stars.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

Jungler Belica is legit boys I wish I were home to post the game. Our entire team had wards and great vision and around the 15-20m mark I could go around clearing nearly every camp in half a second.

Inmate
Inmate

jungling is all about clearing dem minyuns boiz

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Why are there so many people trying to play Riktor now?

PSA: He's still shit.

Bidwell
Bidwell

There are two types of ADC that I've noticed.

The kind who auto everything until it's dead and the ones who wait for low HP to snipe the killing blow.

Which of these is doing it wrong?

Methnerd
Methnerd

By "everything" do you mean minions or other players as well? With minions, the second approach is obviously the correct one, because getting the last hit is what matters. Although helping your own minions get enemy ones to around half heatlh before waiting won't hurt and will speed things up. In case of players though, only shitters do that since you're supposed to be the main damage dealer in teamfights. How much muh kills you get ultimately does not count as long as the fucker's dead and you can farm efficiently.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

I did just ended my third game vs AI.
This game is a bit boring.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

People still play this garbage after the monolith update

They should honestly just remove towers and inhibs and make the game a 5v5 brawl in the OP pit because that's what it is.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

I...mean....yeah? I don't really have to mention her stun and great burst and how good it is for ganking do I? I appreciate the bump though.

FastChef
FastChef

Has the best deplacement move in the game besides Fey's ult, but his is just one of his skills.
Has a stun
Useless

In the CC meta, a good Riktor will scoop your squishies right out from under your protection and let his team anally devastate them as you stand and watch.

Evilember
Evilember

cuntess has a hot mouth

eGremlin
eGremlin

What makes him shit? Yeah compared to Dekker he's bad but thats not fair she's the queen. His kit is still pretty strong he just requires more work and good aim/leading

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

Star system means you get 1 single chest every 3 days instead of 1 every day
The 'advantage' is you can level them up to Gold/Diamond
Get a Diamond chest after sweating my ass off getting wins
Literally full of green tier stuff and 25 coins

Skin variations are locked behind lootcrates that, even if you were to purchase them with real money, would still give you rep boosts that are useless to people at level 50.

Epic doesn't seem to realize 'collectors' would drop $15 on a virtual skin for a videogame character but aren't as enticed if they have to play the loot crate slots and get 5x Rep boosts.

Simply...Epic.

Nojokur
Nojokur

What is her stun
What is her burst potential
What is her mana sapping drone securing kills on people who use escapes with a tiny bit of life left
What is her kill securing ult on absolutely retarded Morigesh who overextend with kill thirst.

askme
askme

Well no shit sherlock youre playing against stupid fucking computers

Step it up

happy_sad
happy_sad

Why won't you play against players then?

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Plays the easiest mode on games
'Hmmph, THIS is a challenge? Ugh.'

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

are you upset

hairygrape
hairygrape

It feels dead even when you're playing against players too desu.

Nojokur
Nojokur

A matter of personal taste I guess. I actually felt the same when just starting, but it quickly grew on me. That was back on early legacy though, when it really felt more dead.

Inmate
Inmate

feeling meme today friends what meme picks should I make

how bout jungle riktor or support mori

Illusionz
Illusionz

Exp boosts

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

Do not play kallari

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

EPIC has elected to replace owned uncommon items with Rep Boosts. So anytime you open a crate and it would land on a skin you already own, you get slapped with a reputation boost.

Don't buy crates my dudes.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

Implying I would buy them anyway instead of just saving for a specific thing I want.
Shit's just not worth it

iluvmen
iluvmen

The shit thing is that some of the good things you can't even buy are in crates. I would shell out for a Belica gunmetal recolour but it's only in the fucking crates.

viagrandad
viagrandad

And the chance of getting it is like what, 2%? Not worth your money man. Even if you got coins for free

takes2long
takes2long

Yeah I'm just gonna use the free crates and keys I get until they fix it.

girlDog
girlDog

tfw you finally quit Paragon last month and your blood pressure and mood have stabilized

Supergrass
Supergrass

tfw you use your freebie of the day to quit a game as soon as it starts

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

I did my first game vs other players.
I end up lvl 11 as my opponents, my team were lvl 6 - 8.

How is the matchmaking ?

whereismyname
whereismyname

How do you think it is?
S H I T
H
I
T
At least most of the time

happy_sad
happy_sad

At least most of the time
I started to play because most people at work play this game. I really hope they are decent players.

Can someone enlighten me about the strategies about this moba ?
Do you have to group to team fight? roam ? keep your lanes... ? is it okay to leave a lane and miss xp, or should you rotate with others ?

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Deathball is king my man, as soon as raptors spawn, group up and help your carry take them.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

It's still in beta, so viable strategies keep changing really. As for now, you can start roaming pretty early as long as you have good coordination with your team and it works pretty well. Due to lots of strong crowd control abilities team fights are largely about the numbers. Also the bonus your team gets from killing the boss is insanely overpowered right now. Just experiment and you should get hang of things pretty quickly. If you want someone to play with check out pastebin player list in the OP

idontknow
idontknow

Do you think we'll be getting any event skins for Easter?

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

roaming in Monolith
LOL the lanes are so fucking tiny until you take the first tower that if you back when the lane is all the way pushed up you'll come back to minions attacking your tower, and if you're a support and try to roam your carry will start crying and spamming I need help even when there are wards.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

Game has mana, an arbitrary limit on how much you can use your abilities
IN ADDITION to cooldowns.

No, fuck that. That shit is anti-fun. If you're gonna give me a mana bar to restrict my abilities, I should at least be able to cast them as many times as I want until it runs out. That or take away the mana bar and leave the cooldowns.

Either way, having both is just bad game design and makes the entire game feel clunky and boring.

One more thing,

Pick Murdock/Twinblast/Belica
Use past experience with TPS to land headshots
Doesn't kill them in one hit
Doesn't even do bonus damage at all

Shit game.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

I can clearly see an enemy, shoot at them
Bullets disappear after 10 feet
Throw a grenade right at their feet
Enemy doesn't explode into gibs, only does a small sliver of damage

Yeah, garbage game.

Flameblow
Flameblow

Based fucking user with the well crafted bait that will revive this general. I can appreciate genius when I see it homie.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

No emote where Countess turns, spreads her buttcheeks and unleashes a cloud of dark red mist from her butthole

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

well crafted
Nah man, it's see through as hell, didn't even make me bother replying.

Playboyize
Playboyize

play Kallari
throw dagger to back of little forest fairy's neck
it just slows her and does baby dmg
Wtf this game is so bad

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

why are you playing kallari, Draymond?

askme
askme

Is it just me or does Belica's ult actually suck since it got nerfed

Methshot
Methshot

today's the day for a free Diamond chest daily reward
router dies
Fantastic.

Snarelure
Snarelure

Nah it's still good, I've hit for over 1000 with it recently.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

There's a post on Le Reddit about dodging Mori's ult with Shadow Slip, which reminds me that I did it last night and meant to spread the word: nothing quite as satisfying, /dsg/, so remember to save it if you've been marked.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

Yeah shadow slip is good for that shit, like dodging Gadget mines.

Supergrass
Supergrass

Yeah the nerfs kinda make it suck. Especially for those playing Belica in the support role who aren't really building much power.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

I literally don't know what the fuck I'm talking about

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

Bump before bed.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

Is it ever worth it to go slap the enemy harvester?

Evilember
Evilember

Yeah. Prevent them from getting card points when you're ahead

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

There needs to be a way to mute pinfs holy fuck I hate when the wost player on the team pings the most

whereismyname
whereismyname

Elaborate, please.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

The thing about muting is that if you mute player text they can't communicate w8th you. So by not muting pings you can still communicate

Playboyize
Playboyize

First dude to pick is an Iggy
Informs he's going safe lane
Dares to say"I'll go solo"
Whole team calls him a retard and dodges

what the FUCK

Inmate
Inmate

bump

Playboyize
Playboyize

but nobody likes hearing good job spam

SniperWish
SniperWish

Shut up or die

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

--------------------------------------ok

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Belica looks at your dick with her scouter
she's excited by the challenge
knocks you out with Seismic Assault
you wake up her sitting on your face stroking your dick
she drops a Void Drone that threatens to blast a hole through your kidneys if you cum

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

Seriously where is the porn of this game? I thought it would get better after the last few all female releases.

Emberburn
Emberburn

Damn, and I thought "private life is in ruins" part of her trivia was because of her full commitment to crime fighting.
Silly me

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

This is what keeps me up at night. The only good thing I found is by pewposterous and that's only the fey.

You'd think there'd be more of Countess. Or Aurora maybe.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

How do we make pornsmiths interested in Paragon?

MPmaster
MPmaster

Feed artists inner jew. They will publish the porn to their blogs, paragon will get more publicity.

Firespawn
Firespawn

How long until the balance patch?

SniperWish
SniperWish

A big one? Who knows. They'll probably put some small tweaks in tuesday one.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

Pay for commissions

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

I'm thinking about trying this game out, but I don't know shit about MOBAs in general or the specific rules of this one. Is there some sort of tutorial or will I have to face the rage of shitters that don't want their game played by new people?

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

You will play a tutorial and subsequently be matched up with other people who have no clue what they are doing

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Watch some full match videos on youtube and make yourself familiar with the roles (jungle, carry, support, etc) and the lanes to which a character is best suited (off, mid, safe, jungle).
Take your chosen character into some bot games to get a feel for them, then try and emulate what the youtube players were doing.
Play safe/ don't die, and learn your match-ups asap (who you can kill at a given point in a match, who can kill you).
Always keep an eye on tab to see which enemies are ahead on levels or card points: one is bad, but if they have an advantage in both, stay far away from them.
You gain xp and card points by "last-hitting" the little robots and making them burst into balls of orange light. That fills up a bar on bottom-left that gives you one cxp each time it's filled, and you can use those points to buy and upgrade cards at base that make you stronger.
Deck building is important, but you won't have a lot of options as a new player, so level up and save your post-game points to get more cards.
Try to learn as many characters as you can so you know what to expect.

JunkTop
JunkTop

Great. Those are always the best matches, no matter in what game.

JunkTop
JunkTop

Alright, thanks for the info. I'll keep that in mind.

massdebater
massdebater

Check out the pastebin in OP if you want to find someone to show you the ropes

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

I really don't know why you titled this as Clutchwss when Narbash comes to bail you out and Sparrow arrives and instead of running you decide to turn around and fight because you have zero awareness

StonedTime
StonedTime

Sparrow was always with me.
You seem to not notice me survive the Grux pull that would have killed me and I got off a dark tide so Sparrow could finish everyone off.

Why would you ever run away from a battle?

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

why would you ever run away from a battle?
Are you one of those people with the "I never surrender" mindset? You guys are assholes.

whereismyname
whereismyname

Uh had he dalyed the pull by even half a second you would be dead asshole that's why you run idiot. Surviving is waaay more important. You didnt do anything "clutch" you just got lucky, and you had another player basically make the entire play. Post elo.

idontknow
idontknow

They said they'll be doing big balance patches like the last one every 6 weeks, next one is in May

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

stump

Spamalot
Spamalot

can't

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

Live, faggot!

Skullbone
Skullbone

Why can't my team kill an enemy that I have completely frozen and then rooted in place?

Why in the middle of a team fight, is our carry (the main source of damage) off farming jungle?

Why does our tank cowardly slink away when an inhib is literally at 1% only to get CC'd to hell and die on his way back to base?

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

tfw you get OP and then hit the jungle for that sweet farm with no enemies alive to interfere.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

Trump

happy_sad
happy_sad

The

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

Anybody got jungle tips? I've been playing jungle since Legacy but I find it harder to be effective in the jungle in Monolith.
I can clear camps just fine and get to level 3 just before river buff spawns and all but I'm having difficulty with ganking and covering all the lanes. I usually end up focusing middle lane and left lane while neglecting right lane and my ganks don't usually end up being too effective because the enemy warded or is always never pushed up.
It was a lot easier in Legacy because of the travel mode and the maps allowed me to gank without having to take a long route to the lane like Monolith. In addition to those shadow realm portals that we had.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

I could tell you

But then I would have to kill you

Firespawn
Firespawn

towers

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

Always start the gank on left wait for them to try to jump in the tower.doesn't matter if they see you coming cant make time to escape if they inside your left laners tower.never do it at a half way point unless your laner has a slow or a stun or he's started something in between.

Lunatick
Lunatick

Is something fucky with assists + Muriel?

I saved a whole load of ass, but my assists on the scoreboard were so low you'd think I was afk

Lunatick
Lunatick

tfw you throw a dank ass long range dekker orb which hits a sub 5% hero
tfw it does 0 damage

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Hit nice long-range orb on running enemy
Kill them
Gideon complains about kill stealing

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Tell Gideon to fuck off.

Honor the Pure isn't gonna buy itself.

On that note I'm glad I almost never have to buy purity censor anymore. That's got to be down to Aurora/Steel going extinct.

Hell I see more Riktors than Steel these days.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

Dekker + Howi/Gadget ult is kinda bullshit

Do you think they'll nerf it? Maybe give Dekker a new ult.

RumChicken
RumChicken

My username is in the webm jackass. You imply that it's impossible to gauge the situation. I saw them heard Grux behind me and used my shadow slip. Stay salty because you don't have my luck and need to autistically post about it.

You're probably one of those "recall after a kill and not take tower" types. You want to win the game you have to be as useful as possible even in death or near it. If grux would've lived he probably would've bought time for his team to respawn and we wouldn't have won immediately after. Some people don't want 5 hour games.

w8t4u
w8t4u

you don't have my luck

So he admits it

Skullbone
Skullbone

Luck is a factor I'll admit. A regular player wouldn't have thought to shadow slip im the first place.

Emberfire
Emberfire

Morigesh is still crap

Illusionz
Illusionz

Good for people who know how to use her.
mfw Countess will never be nerfed and late game Countess will always be a thing