Veeky Forums, are there some cars that are just automotive abortions?
Pic-related, I think Chrysler fucked up with the Plymouth Prowler. They didn't have the money to develop 2 custom American cars that were so drastically different from everything else they made at the same time, and it shows. So much of the Prowler is good ideas done badly, or bad ideas done well, like the front wheels. Chrysler should've spent all the money they spent on the Prowler making the PT Cruiser a real luxury wagon.
What cars do you think should've been killed on the drawing board?
Go fuck yourself you piece of shit. I'm so sick of people shitting on the Prowler.
Gabriel Moore
that looks like a longboy pt cruiser
Robert Ward
>prowler >fucked up Nah, I think you did by making this thread.
Joseph Walker
>make car with hot rod inspired looks >Cut some corners >Give it a weak V6 with a 4 speed automatic They could have gotten away with it if it was offered in higher performance trims as well.
Brandon Nguyen
It's a piece of shit badly executed. A v6? crappy 4 speed automatic?? It looked like a kit car and it was built in a factory. That is not good. The car was and is hot garbage.
Carson Taylor
They tried to fix it with the concept Plymouth Howler. They gave it a V8 and 5 speed manual. Too bad it never reached production en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plymouth_Howler
Charles Roberts
What if they had killed some of their shitty generic cars and gone all in on PTs and Prowlers and other retro-inspired vehicles?
Justin Bailey
I bet the ride quality would still be shit. look at that YouTube video with Doug Demuro. There's no way to get decent suspension at an affordable price on a wheel arrangement like that.
Matthew Barnes
Literally you
Mason Foster
Aren't all PT's long-body?
Ryan Taylor
I remember reading that a guy traded in an original Challenger T/A for a Prowler when it came out.
Chase Wilson
wasn't the V6 have slightly less hp than a V8?
Ian Cooper
The V6 is the meme complain What really is the problem with the prowler is the horrible 4 speed auto, a 5 or 6 speed auto would be fine, a 5 speed manual would be ideal, but the long as fuck ratios of the 4 speed we got killed any fun this car might have had
Eli Nelson
>FCA makes the Prowler Hellcat >707hp meme engine with 9 speed auto >good suspension >a bit more expensive than the charger/challenger hellcat
Would you buy it Veeky Forums?
Christian Hughes
It was badly executed becuase it was pretty much a concept car put into production.
Chrysler did it less for the money and more as an experiment to see how well they could produce an all aluminum body.
Chrysler was shit then and still is now but you at least have to admit it looked like nothing else on the road at the time.
James Myers
I want to find whoever thought this piece of shit was a good idea then execute them slowly in front of their family
John Diaz
it's supposed to be a hot rod throwback, not exactly designed for comfort or livability
Ryder Robinson
It's beautiful.
The BMW Isetta. It's a shitty car, people just buy it because muh BMW. It's literally just a West German Trabant.
Brayden Lewis
Anything Subaru.
Jeremiah Sullivan
There's this station wagon from the 70s, I can't be bothered to remember what it's called, that's been jacked up like 6 inches and has "4 wheel drive". Like a botched-up Subaru wannabe. The fact that I hardly ever see them and when I do they're rotten out and beat to hell tells me that whoever made that failed at emulating Subaru. Pieces of shit.
Nicholas Sullivan
>It's beautiful. It's not and if you've ever driven one or ridden in one you'd know that every single one is a lemon
Parker Lewis
It should/would be much LESS expensive otherwise literally no one would buy it.
Connor Bennett
If you understood what Plymouth was going through you'd understand. Plymouth was gearing itself up to become an independent brand again, their entire lineup was rebadges. The Prowler and PT Cruiser were two concepts they made. Suddenly, Mercedes, who owned Chrysler at the time, announced they're axing Plymouth. The Prowler was rushed into production just for the sake of it. The PT Cruiser turned into a Chrysler but it was Plymouth's design. Chrysler hated the PT Cruiser under their name, it ruined any shimmer of luxury image they had left, but the damn thing was so good it was their best selling vehicle almost the whole time it was in production.
Jayden Diaz
Slow it down butt stain. Your attitude is so Plymoth Prowler.
Caleb Gomez
Thanks 2000 recession and 9/11
Dylan Cooper
>A lemon That doesn't make it an automotive abortion like the Prowler though.
Hunter Campbell
Was it an AMC Scout?
Wait, the PT Cruiser was good? Everyone on Veeky Forums says it was shit.
Colton Morales
I assume that user misspoke It was good in terms of sales. Somehow, because it's a hateful piece of shit in every other way
Carson Williams
But the PT Cruiser looks so beautiful.
Benjamin Allen
For you and my grandma only.
Aiden Gomez
Dream cruiser series 2 turbo 5speed only okay pt cruiser made.
Camden Ross
Yes it's a decent car. They quickly became hand me downs and seconds hand really quick to poor people that don't maintain anything anyway and got the reputation of being bad.
Nolan Sullivan
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Ryan Jenkins
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Gavin Reyes
>antenna sticks out of fender flare
Colton Butler
Lol I tried a shorty antenna and got no tunes. Trust me I hate it too.
Jason Evans
Why did american company made such horrid cars at the start of the millennia?
Parker Bell
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Hunter Taylor
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Jacob Hughes
Chevy trying to copy Chrysler.
Ryder Gomez
The Plymouth Prowler started the whole "retro-styling" craze of the early 2000s. It was parts bin engineering so that's what GM did too.
Ayden Taylor
Anything that tries to be everything at once and ends up being nothing.
>It's a family car No it's not because you tried too hard to make it fast which they're never going to use and now it's $60,000 base model
>It has the slightly faster engine in it so it's a sports car No it has back seats for the family I don't have and is too heavy and also it's automatic to make it easier for the above and below
>It's a commuter car With far too much in it to justify the price when you'll be driving it the same 10 miles every day and you struggle to get 20mpg due to weight
>It's a hatchback so you can carry a lot of stuff Except I don't need to do that except once every year so now it's slow, less mpg. You know about these places where you can "rent a fucking trailer" so you don't have to constantly own a truck just for the one time you'd need it.
The correct answer to the problem of wife wanting a family car and husband wanting a fun sports car is not to make a shitty compromise between both. The correct answer is to tell them to fuck off because it can't be done. Now there are no more family cars, no more sports cars, just lots of "everything" nothings
Michael Russell
Looks like I've got me a future project: Convert a Prowler into one of these
Brandon Cox
Just like that type chink car right?
Jonathan Gray
that remembers me that boomer story from longpost guy. Anyone got the pdf?
Wyatt Hughes
Its not that it shouldn't have been made, it just should have stayed in Korea
Tyler Martin
>The correct answer to the problem of wife wanting a family car and husband wanting a fun sports car is not to make a shitty compromise between both. The correct answer is to tell them to fuck off because it can't be done. Now there are no more family cars, no more sports cars, just lots of "everything" nothings succinctly put
Easton Perez
no no, please let them keep on it.
I test drove one last summer, and I want one badly. The worse its rep, the better for me. For what it is, the V6 is fine if you're over 5 inches. The auto sucks, but tolerable.
Problem is, they need bumper delete badly. And these cars really need to be kept 100% stock to retain their future value.
Colton Wilson
I bet people said the same about the FD2 Type R ten years ago.
Camden Peterson
To add, I agree with what you're saying though. As a distinction I think Type R versions should have been made in a coupe or hatch styles only.
Ian Gray
How do you deal with fucking no headroom?
Hunter Morgan
Put the top down?
How do you deal with not owning a unique car?
Tyler Diaz
Nice bait
Christian Bell
This
Lincoln Hughes
Wrong.
I'm a trap actually, but, I get it, memes.
Kek.
This guy gets it. I agree with you. Also, nice R33 dubs.
Grayson Clark
Eat shit OP. The prowler is overall not as fun as it should have been, but dammit is fucking cool to look at and drive around. Overall a nice car.
Camden Lopez
Its a meme car with the meme engine It would be around the same price point as the other hellcats, just like the jeep hellcat FCA is making
Thomas Mitchell
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Robert Long
Wasnt that in the movie 'The Island' ?
That was a sick movie
Juan Lopez
>automatic 4 speed only
William Wilson
This.
>no one has ever replaced the stock transmission of an automobile >ever
Jordan Ramirez
>worth more stock I would never consider buying one with the factory v6 and 4 speed auto. I might consider one with a veeate and 5 speed manual swapped in.
No sale < sale.
Ayden Morris
How much would it cost to swap a decent 5 or 6 speed manual into it?
