There's still about 5 weeks before even the chance of a nerf happening. That's plenty of time to hit masters which is a great return on your investment
Julian Ortiz
>game hasn't even been out a year yet
Be honest, is there even any hope left at this point?
Alexander Sanders
Hosting some reverse take two for fun, anyone's welcome match ID 75850
Dominic Sanchez
It doesn't matter how you build it. Just throw in the cards that you see being played the most.
Jose Jenkins
Where are you getting the 5 weeks number from?
And though it is appealing to rush to masters, it won't matter much. I don't even play the game seriously that much at the moment, I'm just playing every day to get my sleeves and quests done in AA0. I'm limited in decks, but it doesn't matter how limited I am, because none of my decks are midrange shadow, so they're all equally useless. The meta is just fucked, and I'm forced to keep playing if I want to stay current with my sleeves and gold.
Jonathan Nguyen
No. It'll be pretty clear when they go nutballs with rune next expansion.
Honestly, I'm more curious what amazing decks the playtesters ran that they didn't give a shit about midshadow. inb4 buy our tester approved midshadow buster prebuilt deck today!
They wait about 2 months for the meta to settle because they know the playerbase is retarded and for the mostpart just bitch until masters poop out a successful counter
Zachary Morales
>Daria >Grimnir >Didn't catch onto gobu pulling roach >It's really hard to hit 30 shadows
Tyler Evans
what do I do if I dont draw either?
Luis Cox
Midrange shadow lists anyone?
Parker Hernandez
Daria was a wild success for them in getting whales and pulling people in. Grimnir was great from their perspective. More core neutrals means more whaling and core golds etices them more to whale for 1/2 more for that dank animated playset.
Mason Watson
Maybe those 20 testers wouldn't assed to play real card Shadow
>I trade and kill that follower >Okay, then I summon back 3 skeletons off the lastwords >Are you shitting me? I'm sure there is only 1 Lastword there!
Jonathan Thomas
The meta will be fine once Zell and Catacunt are fixed, relax.
Anthony Smith
The retardation coming from Cygames's design team reminds me of WotC, who made MTG, and probably has the same strategy that Cygames is following. WotC actually heavily playtests their own cards before release, the problem is the playtesters suck. Like these are playtesters that will be building neutral decks and discard dragon to have fun, instead of trying to actually break the game. If Cygames is trying to emulate WotC, they may very well be using the same playtest strategy.
I think by now it's evident that no one is shitting out a counter to shadow. There is none. No one is trying to counter it, they're either playing it, losing to it, or quitting. The numbers are worse than they were for Daria, and in only half the time.
Levi Cook
Of course not.
The game is already almost 100% solitaire where you have no control over the outcome based on the draws.
There is no reason to play this game. It's actually fucking worse than hearthstone. Do you know how hard it is to be worse than fucking hearthstone? You have to have no gameplay whatsoever AND have an oppressive pricing scheme.
Then they go ahead and tie ranked and unranked rating together so if you bother to rank up you can't play for fun anymore. It's absolutely pathetic.
Kayden Richardson
Get out there and zombie them right in the butthole while phantom dragon kills them
Charles Davis
>I think by now it's evident that no one is shitting out a counter to shadow.
My seraph deck does fine against them. You autolose to Rowen tho.
Jayden Harris
lolwat
Ryder Bennett
>Necropolis Queen
Now that's a fine lass.
Jonathan Kelly
>cannot deal with a bone chimera >cannot force a dragon to spend his EP What a shitter.
Jackson Long
>bone chimera Stop with this shitty meme.
Bentley Davis
Last I heard forest masters have been having some success
>Zell only works with hydra >Adds the atk/def of any additional hydras in your hand to said hydra Fixed
>Bukkake's zombies all over his face >Outheals aggro >Outdraws control >Chips all the way home Wut indeed Wutwut up the butt. Running just over 70% wr in masters with it.
Juan Hill
wtf I lost to frog meme
Alexander Green
Just hex it bro
Nathan Williams
This might actually be possible for me, but can you replace Eachtar or Thane with other stuff? I have more Cerbs and Lord of Flies, as well as a few neutral legendaries like Gabriel/Olivia.
Jaxson Thomas
Totally. Keep your board up and just keep hitting them in the penis. If you want to run lotf, slap in ghostly rider or whatever to help cover him.
Levi Reed
I need a concession. Please, help a fellow user out!
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Henry Hill
I'm playing this shit tier sword banner beginner deck while missing a bunch of the cards I need, It has 2 ward cards kill me pls...
Samuel Parker
Can't wait for them to nerf this OP craft. Also post your latest games.
Hunter Jones
And the not best list of them all
Dominic Brooks
wtf I can't emote spam???
Cooper Lee
Not him, but Wind God is a decent placement for Eachtar. The buff is permanent and she comes out two turns earlier and must be removed.
William Carter
Play Shadow.
Lucas Baker
Has any card been powercreeped harder than undead king?
Kevin Edwards
Nothing you could have done as sword since you have no bane wards and no wards survive frog cyclone anyway. Accept your fate.
Lucas Perez
thanks to the user who played a couple of games gonna host some more if anyone wants to play reverse take two, match ID 75850
Austin Williams
I'm too busy taking this cutie on a date. Cygames releasing an eroge was a mistake
Landon Collins
Thats what these fags bitching here don't seem to understand. Thats how countering a meta works, normally. You gear up to beat one deck, and usually another deck in the meta will buttfuck you. It's just how it works.
Aiden Fisher
did anyone EVER use undead king? it's just filler trash.
Wyatt Anderson
Fafnir >Bahamut shits on you >Wrath's cheaper and its enhance is better
Kevin Fisher
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Bentley Martinez
#Justice for Desert Rider
i wanted to for the zombie card synergie but a 7pp do-nothing is suicide
Jayden Richardson
2 pp 3/3 when?
David Martin
Probably the next expansion at this rate.
Jaxson Rivera
Thanks, it turns out all I was missing to make the deck was an Eachtar. I put in the wind god, and still have quite a few of those other cards I could try if it doesn't work. Glad I now have a deck that might work instead of Dshift and Daria. Time to reliably win some games.
Daniel Myers
I can't seem to keep my interest in the game this expansion. I was having a great time in RoB, playing all kinds of fun meme decks, not really caring about my winrate as long as I could do my dailies. I had a semi-workable deck for every leader except Dragon and Shadow. Now, it's like that's all that exists if you EVER want to win.
Besides Pepe, what decks still even survive in the current meta? I'm a total Johnny, I like creative decks and don't mind a low winrate as long as it exists. I love off-meta decks like Conjuring Rune, Eidolon Haven, Pascale Dirt, etc, but Midshadow and Ramp dragon have pounded me into the ground and I don't know where to go.
Current legos pictured. Only ever crafted a gold or two, so I've got some vials. I'd rather not vial anything, but what halfway decent decks am I closest to?
Lincoln Butler
Aggro blood is 5 golds for 3 vania and 2-3 vampire fortress Cursed storm royal is 1-2 golds. Shadowed is really only there for if you get stalled you can clear and re-cloak. Banner memes is pretty cheap as is aggro royal using fangblades for a closer. OTK disconewt dragon's 5-6 golds but the 3 breaths are core dragon and the 3 altered fate are core ptp neutralcraft Aggro forest can drive on 3 gold roaches Storm haven is 5 golds for 3 garuda and 1 valhallan Tempo spellboost rune can get by with just 3 Levi's Budget aggro shadow has 0 golds and tries to close out with cursed soldier+board on t7
Neutralcraft's really just the 2 gold wind gods. The 2 uriel are for spear consistency which is important but you'll live for a week to get the vials for them
Camden White
Would Dark Jeanne played more if she costed 5?
Jason Scott
how is that 2pp????
Josiah Lee
>i wanted to for the zombie card synergie but a 7pp do-nothing is suicide yeah but it's not even a good comparison to support the argument of powercreep. shit like bahamut > fafnir is much better, or wrath drake > glacial dragon, and even then one could (maybe) argue that they're good for different situations.
not saying you're wrong, of course there's powercreep, but this is a card game we're talking about, so it's bound to happen.
Cameron Garcia
>1/1 does nothing >2/2 does nothing SMASH DAT MF CONCEDE BUTTON, IT'S REAL ROWAN HRS
Oliver Rogers
If you buff a card it'll obviously see more play. She seems fine as is though.
Michael Lewis
I do have quite a few of those that I can play, but I just want to do the best I can. I played Daria and Dshift for about 50 games and barely broke even in wins, and both of those are full netdecked versions that basically lose to shadow unless they brick.
Other than that I can do that cursed storm, budget aggro, or neutral.
William Brooks
Soon
Benjamin Cox
*munches bread*
Cameron Phillips
Probably too strong at 5PP, it's not like she's unplayable at the moment
Liam Clark
Midrange sword Aegis/Storm haven
Kayden Parker
Daria's kind of obsoleted. I don't have the cards to see if mammoth or chimera can save it.
Gavin Green
what if you mother didn't drop you when you were a baby would that prevent you from making retarded shitposts?
Dominic Anderson
Tbqh just play Aggro Shadow instead of Midrange. It's slightly weaker but is cheaper and has better matchup against Dragon, games are also faster.
Dominic Walker
Chimera is has no synergy with the Daria gameplan and mammoth is kind of slow. You don't really want to spend 3PP if it isn't immediately giving you value or spellboosting your cards
James Phillips
I'm probably just going to play that weird zombies deck that guy posted, since it seems to be good for now. Certainly better than what I have if he's doing well in masters.
Luis Campbell
Probably not for the the same reasons the existing 5pp 2 board dmg keeps having to hit stuff. Nothing lasts for a board boost either
Gavin Robinson
What are those budget sword lists?
Asher Brooks
It's not power creep if nobody plays it. Seriously, power creeping basic cards is fine because, you start the game with them, and most of them are supposed to be shitty.
Ayden Martin
How do I git good at arena/take two?
Ayden Bell
If your Johnny spirit is true then crank something with Ginger, be the one to bring Rune to terminal status again
Juan Parker
A combination of luck and picking Dragon/Shadow.
Brayden Williams
so I guess every 2pp with an actual effect is a powercreeped fighter, or a good 2pp like levi is a powercreep of every other 2pp that's not as strong (even if they have distinct uses) right?
if that's enough for you to get upset then I suggest you quit card games altogether.
Elijah Bennett
She would be an overstatted better Lion that requires no evo points. She'd be absolutely busted. She is already decent on Storm Haven. A lot of nips are playing her I've been having a lot of success with her as well.
Anthony Hill
>Cost appropriate stats >Ramp >Heal >Full evo stats Why is this allowed?
Evan Thompson
Why don't they just ask top players to playtest? Those guys in the leaderboard probably have a lot of free time, and would love to try the new cards before others.
Thomas Cooper
purge elfs
Luis Scott
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Havencraft player Looking for full matches, no concedes or sandbagging
Michael Howard
She should ramp you when not in Overflow and heal you when in Overflow, not both. Or just gut her stats. Broken fucking card.
Tyler Roberts
>so I guess every 2pp with an actual effect is a powercreeped fighter
...yes? That doesn't mean printing new fighters is bad, but call it what it is.
Hunter Ross
Probably to avoid leaks. It would also be a problem if they ever plan to host tournaments. MTG devs aren't allowed to play in tournaments for a few years after they've worked on the cards, so many of them are retired pros.
Luis Garcia
Arisa is literally best girl.
Sebastian Hall
Pick Dragon or Shadow and get lucky when you'll go against the other guy who's having a great run on either of those crafts. If they brick you'll 5-0
Sebastian Adams
Correct.
Christopher Cruz
Draft good curves, take high value cards, always have some hard removals, have some sort of storm finishers or lategame wincons.
Matthew Rodriguez
I'm convinced that Dragon is the class for people who feel the need to compensate for their tiny dicks.
Jordan Williams
then I'll have to point you to the very post you first replied to >not saying you're wrong, of course there's powercreep however, there's powercreep you right to be upset about, and there's others that just do not matter. oh no, this card we designed is stronger than undead king/fighter, welp guys we better not print it otherwise people will shout "POWERCREEP! SHIT GAME!" at us.
Justin Cox
Post elf o s t
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Luis Ross
Can't wait for Arisa to return to her rightful place at the top of the meta next expansion or later this expansion
Cooper Ortiz
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Lincoln Young
Burn the forests. Kill all elven scums.
Levi Roberts
Isn't tempo forest and roach really strong right now tho?
Isaac Brooks
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Ian Rivera
Tempo has been dead since RoB, but yeah roach/bolt is still fine. I'd say "really strong" is a bit of a stretch, though.
Gavin Clark
You can look at it from a different perspective. It's Death's Breath that summons the zombies with +2 attack and rush instead of +1 health and ward. You just pay 1 extra pp for a 5/6 body
David Martinez
aww that sucks, I was kinda trying to make a tempo deck since I like playing most tempo decks :( Guess there's still roach, but idk if I like it from what I've seen...
Luke Diaz
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Jason Allen
play midrange shadow, it's like tempo forest on crack
Mason Long
But then I'd have to play that loli :/
Alexander Miller
Why are you saying I'm upset? I'm just saying basic cards are bad for a reason, and that's fine.