/dsg/ - Demon's/Dark Souls General

Your list is backwards, buddy

PS4?

>60 dex is still only 106
>what is other weapon requirements except dex stat
Oh yeah, quality weapons. What about them? Without 40/40 stats they're nothing.
>DaS2 is the best
As expected of muh 120SL is too high shitter. Your 80/100SL meta is nothing but minmax shittery

>tfw you decide not to link the fire
>you enter a painting and finally escape the endless cycle of fire and dark
>form a church where hollows can live in peace, a cold and gentle place
>then one day, some guy shows up and beats your whole family to death with a trash can lid

Friede was hurting people.

Every time

burnt out on souls

what do i play now

kings field

russian roulette with a shotgun

PC

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Trade for it, nigga.

That or go NG+.

go another NG cycle

or

revert to an earlier save

or

CE them in

or

have someone dupe theirs for y'alls

for casters, a charge system might be better for a sense of adventure, instead of just spamming the most cost-effective damage spells, but FP is still probably a better

for melee, FP is godly because it enables weapon arts which is why the game

Shit, sorry dude can't help you.

you'd actually only have to level vig to 50 to get up to 120 in that situation, which is the softcap. also assuming you're not leveling strength for any reason, which you still need to a bit if you want to use all the good dex weapons; i mean, if you want to one-hand your washing pole then you're going to need 18 str just for that.

this argument you're making seems like a real stretch to me.

It's like 15 minutes into the game just start again nigga

armored core

how do you actually fuck it up? do you forget the farron keep invasion or something?

>do you forget the farron keep invasion?
Exactly

>>what is other weapon requirements except dex stat
>Oh yeah, quality weapons. What about them? Without 40/40 stats they're nothing.

>dex build
>BUT WHAT ABOUT 40/40 REQUIRING WEAPONS HUH user

that's a quality build, one of the only two builds possible at 120
what the fuck?

man that 143 extra health will help so much for those 14 extra levels huh?
Not to mention you've still got like 30-40 other spare levels

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>only two builds possible at 120
caster builds
morne builds
99dex dagger build
hyperdrmode and other shittery buids
regenerator builds
dex/int
str/fth
tank builds

Fuck off.

Gave me a chuckle, thanks.

Should I? He seems legit /dsg/

>I also miss attuning things multiple times mattering
Why can you even get duplicates for spells now?

>caster builds
not viable at all, this causes the "casters are useless in pvp" meme
>morne builds
can do it at 80
mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/38052
>dex/int or str/fth
correct, one of the two possible builds, spellblades
>tank builds
this isn't viable at any level

If I wanted to actually use sacred flame against other players would the best way be via tanking through a hit with perseverance? What stats would be best for a strong sacred flame?

>actually use
the fuck you mean by that, it's one of the required spells in pvp

>not viable at all
>mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/38052
shit baiting

I'm pretty sure you make a good pure faith at SL80

nope

New player here, please give me a Int/Dex nimble battlemage build that's viable in PVP. Should I choose assassin or sorcerer as starting class?

Unless you like dying.

you cannot make a viable caster at 120 because they get so much less value out of vigor and endurance than everyone else
which means for every extra level they fall more and more behind

You can sell them
And thats it

I like FP for the most part but I really wish they could have gone with FP for skills, charges for magic.

You trying to force 60SL shield+ss meta, right?

health is always a good investment. i take issue with a lot of other ideas here as well. 40 end is not a crazy amount, you can swing a UGS four times on that, and you're suggesting everyone build around less, while ignoring that casters get it even worse in this equation because of needing an extra stat that melee don't. maybe if casts didn't eat stamina it would be fine but they do.

this is a meta of low potential action, low hp and low potential for hybridization. i'd imagine it's good for random invasions but it doesn't strike me as one that's good for real variety in dueling.

>less than 1k HP
Pro tip: everything is viable against retards

Sacred Flame has poise, no extra mechanic is needed.

Vancian casting is by far superior to mana-based casting, because it doesn't incentivize boring play that maximises fp-to-damage ratios. Having a manabar means that utility spells and large, climactic damage-dealing spells operate off the same resource track as your standard attack spells. It's a lot more fun (and interesting) to be able to have larger spells like soul spears use up a separate resource.

If I was going to use the assets they had in the game now, I'd throw vancian/charges back in while keeping FP for weapon arts (including staff WAs). It's not like sorcery is particularly overpowered in DS3 anyway.

Is this the new Carthus Cringe Sword?

yes

oh you mean the SL120 meta?

melee needs three stats, four if quality, four if spellblade
casters need two

does it? I thought it only gets some just before grabbing

you just need to believe, it's faith after all

Post fashion my dudes?

>oh you mean the SL120 meta?
Low lvl SL meta give you zero options.
>120SL is "for two" builds
>casters are not viable
>you don't need 60 dex because I say so
>40 end is too much
>50vig is too much
I don't even understand what you want. 50SL meta?

Bulking (NOT FAT) Ornstein checking in

80/100 so people can make builds

youtu.be/zN7YVPJh6U4

Ornstein the Donutslayer!
r8

>died as soon as the boss died
>still got the ember
damn i was bad, im glad he beat it with my help

>so people can make builds
Using your logic 80/100 SL only has two builds.
STR and DEX. This game only has two builds.
More important 80SL is too high.
You don't need 40vig, 27 is enough.
15end is celling for str builds.
40str is too much. 27str is enough.
50SL is meta.

use harald knight chest

Any recommendations for a DEX build? I'm using the Cathedral Knight GS for STR, Moonlight GS for INT, Madman's Crucifix for FTH, but I've no idea what I want to use for my DEX build. Everything seems so boring.

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I hope comfy ded threads will be back soon

crow quills

Patented fashion in a can.

>they get so much less value out of vigor and endurance than everyone else

Everyone takes hits in PvP, thus vigor is always useful no matter what, and because every action eats up stamina that's always useful too. Because of these things, the relationship between levels and wizards is actually the opposite of what you're suggesting. Casters want HP and stamina, then also need their casting stat(s) and then also attunement, and they'd really be best off if they could also squeeze in some str/dex to meet minimum requirements on good caster weapons like MLGS and Onyx Blade, and when you also consider how the 40-60 range is really good for casters on their spellcasting stat, 120 starts feeling a little cramped rather than too expansive. Meanwhile, a quality character is perfectly comfortable at 120 and pure str/dex builds are also landing comfortably at 120 by reaching 60 in their favorite stat and then meeting their minimums in the other physical stat, maybe finishing out around 45 vig.

This 80 SL meta still seems like a real stretch, like it's based around assumptions about dueling/PvP in general that just aren't true.

You're not Lucy with his trip off, are you?

sellsword with pontif ring and wolf word

need a name for my first ds1 randomizer run

roll a 27

no

Was this an actual thing that was going to be in the game?

The meanies keep saying you're dead.

They are all pretty boring.

dont forget casters also use stamina thanks M

Ds1 randorun

frayed blade

>fight against a SoTC, which means you have 15 estus and they have none
>falls for poise casting multiple times
>you can literally see him trying to mash R1 even after you had already started casting at the end there
Again, everything is viable against retards.
I'm not sure what are you trying to show with these webms. I could cherrypick a bunch of clips of me killing braindead shitters with the broken straight sword but that wouldn't be very fun to watch and it wouldn't be good proof that's it's viable now would it?

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No, it was for a joke playthrough where dumb things happened.

I respawned at a bonfire.

dex got fucked hard in DaS3

frayed blade is like the only decent one, but only shitters use it

Pontiff Knight Curved Sword

Reminder that Ledo is a black knight and whoever made the change should be gassed

I heard that there are hackers on PS4 now, is it true?

It's weird how that carried over. DS2 was the first to introduce that, in DS1/DeS that wasn't a thing and then in BB arcane items didn't use stamina so it went back to not being a thing, but then for some reason Big M let there be stamina costs on spellcasts in 3.

I wonder if he just let it go because it fueled his hateboner for magic in 3.

>>you don't need 60 dex because I say so
sharp washing pole
18/40 - 399
18/60 - 420 (blaze it)
25/40 (13 levels lower) - 423

frayed blade
13/40 - 442
13/60 - 465
20/40 (13 levels lower) - 449

don't really know what the "in" dex weapons are but here you go
levelling dex past 40 is a huge waste

I'd take SL50 meta over SL120 any day
mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/178898

course not, lucy is a faggot that follows the "casters are useless" meme because his shit brain is stuck in the SL120 meta

>caster weapons
now we're back to spellblades
you can do those too at SL80 but you'll have to compromise pure spell damage, which makes sense because you'll be stronger in short range, but weaker at long range

I like having to make tradeoffs in builds, if you hit every single softcap for your "build" it's not a build

Can someone help me with the frost guy below the tower you first meet onion knight in?

I certainly hope not, isolation from hackers is the only reason I play on console.

you cant summon there

there's always been hackers on consoles, just depends on what you mean by hackers

Fuck me then, I keep on getting frostbitten

Nope there aren't, it's just PCucks lying

Probably people using the new PS4 save edit tool.

psxhax.com/threads/ps4-save-wizard-guide-to-edit-playstation-4-game-saves-by-nitrowolf2.2073/

He only has two-hit combos but has a very short window between attacks. Don't attack more than once unless you stun him and you should be good.
You can also cheese the fuck out of him if you're really having trouble.

As in?

Fucker got me 9+ times already. Wasted quite a few embers too

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