What does Veeky Forums think of the cadillac cts-v coupe?

also there's like three cts-v manual wagons on sale in the states and they're 60k+

Why do you guys like wagons so much?

I'm not really into the aesthetic's of them

>polarizing

that's a good way to put it

CTS-V wagon, one of the best looking cars on the road
CTS-V coupe, needs to be killed with fire then launched into space to prevent infecting other designs

American v8 engines are indestructible. Don't get the v6.

Because they're useful, can store a lot of stuff, can still go fast around corners. Coupes meanwhile are only so useful, but might gain 10% in performance.

Don't downplay the V6, it's a good engine too.

Only bad part are the stock spark plugs are weak.

I just drove one of those V6s 1000 miles up the east coast and through NYC, they're worth their weight

ugliest coupe I've seen, how the wagon didn't sell like hotcakes sitting next to this is beyond me

>I just drove one of those V6s 1000 miles up the east coast and through NYC, they're worth their weight

Nice what do you have? Pics?

long, low, mean looking, super practical without sacrificing dynamics

>mean looking

are you trying to imply something

It's a 2008 STS. Heavy, but it does the job

How did the engine handle the weight? Did the car "feel powerful and fast" or did it feel sluggish?

300hp sounds nice but I'm unsure how it handles that weight

>handle the weight
even taking it through the mountains, there was enough torque to get to the speed i wanted

>feel powerful and fast
when it drops from 6th to 4th then it does

>did it feel sluggish
if you're willing to push the gas pedal down, it will have plenty of power

but i also drive a 140hp civic, so i was content

if you want something that feels powerful and fast, get a V8. i was just saying that the V6 is a good motor for a daily driver

Aside the avista concept every alpha platform coupe look like shit.

This. The couple is ugly as shit, but the wagon and sedan are nice looking. A manual CTS-V wagon was my dream car for a while, but I was never able to find one so I bought a hellcat instead.

there's always one or two for sale country wide, how could you not find one through cars.com or autotrader?

would have been cheaper than a hellcat actually

There are literally 0 manual wagons for sale in america right now on Autotrader.com. Didn't check cars.com. Trust me, I looked for a very long time, and the manuals had a hefty premium on the Autos, so a manual with 30k miles on it was running 60k. I only paid two more for my hellcat and I got more horsepower and what it honestly a better looking car. I have started to prefer curves over edges.

>There are literally 0 manual wagons for sale in america right now on Autotrader.com.
uh, there are four?
and two on cars.com
if you're searching for the CTS-V model you're only going to get 2016/2017. The last gen cts-v had the cts model name and V was a trim on it.

you're right about the price premium though, the autos are much cheaper. On the flip side of that though, they are holding their value incredibly well and it's actually going up

Well, I just searched manual wagons and those didn't come up, but I wasn't going to pay 70 grand for a three year old used car when I got a new hellcat for 62.

>this x1000

I'm just asking cause I'm currently driving a 2004 Mercedes

It's v6 has around 220 hp and you can feel the power when you push the pedal down but doesn't necessarily feel fast

Figured rwd car with 320 hp should be good enough for me. I don't need anything too crazy.

>Veeky Forums fags hate crossovers / light suvs
>Veeky Forums loves bloated wagons that are literally crossovers

fags

Veeky Forums doesn't cars that are made in america

>CTS-V wagon
>even remotely close to a crossover
The fuck are you smoking?

>bloated wagons that are literally crossovers
>meanwhile crossovers are pretty much always underpowered overweight and raised up far to high to have any kind of handling potential
i don't get it

doug de meme says the wagon ctsv has pretty much no extra space over the sedan though

>4000 fucking lbs
>4 door wagon

what is the difference between this and a crossover design with 4 doors and a hatch style rear entry

>Muh handling

its a wagon you're already comprising the handling

>underpowered overweight

they're based on typical sedans generally. they're just big unibody cars

>honestly thinking the 4 door wagon "looks" better than the 2 door coupe CTS-V

you're a bunch of fucking hipsters who are full of their own shit

Seating position, ride height and overall vehicle height are pretty much what separates a wagon from a crossover, and the CTS-V firmly falls into the "wagon" category.
It's not exactly trying to look like an actual off-road capable vehicle, is it?

only a sith deals in absolutes

fucken kek

Does anyone on Veeky Forums own a caddy?

What does Veeky Forums think of the new ones?

I think the new Cadillac's have the potential to overtake BMW and mrecedes for luxury performance

>niggerlac

'07 cts 3.6L sedan here.
First gen is the best looking.

Pics?

I was so close to getting that as my first car but I really disliked the interior.

All the performance goodies available.
Bought it with 28k on the clock.

i think the sedan looks better

They are cool an all but imo all the ones pre 2016 are ugly.

That ass is just repulsive

It looks shit in the coupe form.

>caddy

meh

These Basketball Americans are fucking insane. Literally two years ago these were selling for the same price N-E-W.

Because they are not faggoty crossovers, but do useful crossover stuff while driving like an actual car.

CTS-V Coupe is AIDS.
Sedan is sex
Wagon is sexual nirvana

The ATS-V coupe looks better desu. Just wish there was an ATS-V Wagon

they already have, functionally

but end of the day all that matters is sales, and bmw is riding off decades of being top dog in sport luxury and using their huge marketing engine to stay on top....even though they're somewhat dull and very heavy and uninspired now. basically mercedes but worse

its rare, has good performance, and is a very unique combination (v8 manual wagon), definitely a collector's car

>dull and very heavy and uninspired now

Yeah that's very sad but true, there used to be a huge difference between bmw and mercedes but now the differences are much smaller

Used to be known as the sporty, light yet reliable cars for fun spirited driving. Now they're just overweight luxobarges like mercedes.

Because it fucking makes sense for the CTS-V.

The coupe just really looks like a mutant of some kind because the car is so tall, the belt-line is so high, and the rear is so high. It's like if someone kinda wanted to do a shorting brake, but then decided to just fuck it all up and turn it into a regular coupe instead.

Look at that vast expanse of blank sheetmetal between the wheel well and the top lines of the rear quarter panel - it's so freaking awkward.

Space, you fucking mouth-breather.

You fold the rear seats down and you get epic amounts of cargo space, especially in terms of length.

OP here.

I kinda like how the coupe looks. It gives is a unique look. Wish it looked a bit more like the concept art tho

How would you fix the back?

I've only seen one of these out in the wild. A million sedans and coupes though.

Wagons are gay

Level out the beltline, slope the rear less then make the trunk flat like the XLR but not as extreme. The hiked up rear and ruins these cars for me and I want to like them.

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That's actually a good thing for buyers. You can get some great deals on a used cts-v, even the ats-v is reasonable.

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only the AMG 72 model got a worthwhile tranny.

>won't get the V8 (which has more power)
>considering tuning the V6 to gain more power, and voiding any possible warranties in the process

Like this?

I couldnt do the beltline

Yep

eccept less window

This. Irl the proportions are disgusting

christ thats ugly

It's designed to scare off old people so they don't buy Cadillac's anymore, which fixes the brand image.
Unfortunately GM forgot that old people are half fucking blind, so they can't see the car to be scared off by it, so they still buy it.

Honestly the second generation CTS-V is not the best choice but not a bad one. It can really only shine as a Dyno queen, otherwise a Camaro ZL1 or Corvette ZR1 outperforms it in every way due to having the same engine. Yes, it is more comfortable than those choices, but the interior does feel tacky or try hard in places and it's well known Cadillac's infotainment system is a massive turd. Stock they are too quiet. Your first mods will most likely be just trying to hear anything. The autotragic sucks the life out of it. The manual mode shifts are super sluggish and stomping on it takes a second for it to down shift. Don't even try "b-but manual is obsolete!" There's a .3 second difference in 0-60, guarantee the the highway passing and track speeds are faster with the manual. I think the coupe looks good but the visibility is very Camaro tier.

I kinda like it now

>wagon
>collectors car
wew lad

Yes?

You made it go from unique looking to generic as fuck

I like the original

>fast
>nice interior
>looks like garbage

Looks like trash styling wise. It'll be interesting when Lincoln finally rolls out their 2 door.

>looks like garbage
thankfully the newer CTS (and ATS to lesser extent) exist

No one cares how unique it is if it's ugly as shit

Putting a dildo on the roof of your car is pretty unique too but it doesn't look good does it?

the original has 2000 lbs of ass, its a big bar of edgy soap