Heroes of the Storm General - /hotsg/

Dreaming of buffs Edition

What's new?

>D.Va confirmed for Smash
youtu.be/UgJLvtx5PzI
>Nexus Challenge 2.0; Oni Genji skin, Policeman D.Va, loot boxes, and more in Overwatch and HotS
us.battle.net/heroes/en/heroes20/nexuschallenge20/
youtu.be/Bv2t9lwC7lk

>**Megabundles Announced**; All players will be able to unlock up to 20 heroes for FREE
>Promotion ends May 22nd, 2017
us.battle.net/heroes/en/heroes20/megabundles

>Heroes of the Storm 2.0; Now LIVE!
us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20695700
us.battle.net/heroes/en/heroes20
>Genji Hero Announced; Now LIVE!
us.battle.net/heroes/en/heroes/genji
youtu.be/-SJgvzPRFEI
>Hamamura Battleground Announced; Now LIVE!
us.battle.net/heroes/en/battlegrounds/hanamura
youtu.be/Dq5-18Vt-c0

>For new players:
youtu.be/wPk004vsjuE
>New & Experience Players - Advice on Improving and Not Raging
youtu.be/dR220gLIUEo

>Which heroes should I buy?
Play all the heroes on free rotation or try mode and see who you like. Don't buy heroes just to get into ranked, you'll regret it.

>Current Free Hero Rotation
us.battle.net/forums/en/heroes/topic/17936383460
>Current Weekly Sale
us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20695741
>Current Weekly Brawl
us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20724210
>Latest Patch Notes
us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20721900

>Hero Rankings, Various Statistics, Talent Calculator, & Wiki
hotslogs.com/Default (Slightly inaccurate)
heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator
heroesofthestorm.gamepedia.com/Heroes_of_the_Storm_Wiki

>Current Tier List
robogrub.com/tierlist

>Where can I find you gamer girls (male)?
"/join Veeky Forums" in game chat

Previously:

C A S H - M E - O U T S I D E - H O W - B O U T - D A T

SKINS FUCKING DEVALUED

You can watch a thousand guides and they would never prepare you as well as just playing 20-30 matches in unranked (and experience the frustration yourself).

It's more about mentality (pick what is needed, not what you want) and experience than anything else.

The two most important picks, are the first pick and the last pick. Banning is not so important, unless it's about banning OP heroes (which there are none of right now, mostly Probius or Anub).

First pick should be a hero with no hard counters, and last pick should almost always be a hero that counters the enemy team or is a hero that is strong but has hard counters. Try to fit Tank and Support picks for middle picks, as they make for bad last or first picks.

Pro-tip: Don't first pick heroes like Nova, Chromie, Hammer or Illidan.

>tfw these threads fill up almost twice a day now

WE

xth for li li a CUTE!

>tfw

Are you happy about that? Does it make you happy seeing this game see more players and become more successful?

new to the game but not moba in generell, got the assassin pack but no idea what to play or how im getting gud

nazeebo seems fun but everytime some assassin jumps me im dead especially early game (dot in general seems pretty meh in fights)

same problem with liming that i cant really get away from fights

One day I can cause a second cataclysm.

>instead of a [specialist] in the form of a huge ass dragon shadow watching over the land, summoning minions on lanes and dropping fire from above we'll get his human form where his
>Q = an instant next-attack empower
>W = instead breath attack that leaves a patch of fire on the ground
>E = temporary defensive buff
>Q = ult is him transforming into a dragon for bonus armor & spell shield and cleaving auto-attacks attacks

>d.va instead of deathwing

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Well I mean if more players means more rapid updates and more content for the game and not just shit players they're trying to pander to...

Really makes me think about blizz balance.

That would be the perfect set up for him, and its not like they cant do human form for him, theres plenty of art, and im pretty sure you see him at least 4 times in human form in WoW during questing.

>playing with a 5 stack

everything is easier that way

Hows ranked anons?

Im done with League I think for a good while.

Nah, it's all solo hell bby.

Cant balance for dirt league.

Q or W build for Rag?

What's the take on nUther?

Good in coordinated teams, kind of weak solo

I just hope they stop doing this "mobile ranged assassin" that are near carbon copies of eachother spree that they are on now
You have the perfect game that is not (as heavily) influenced by the esports cancer and a perfect playground for a variety of playstyles
fuck genji & cassia, why break the amazing spree you had with ragnaros, valeera and lucio and probius

Sonya is a very pretty lady!

It's easier to give advice if you say which heroes are giving you problems.

QM can be confusing for new players, since QM is not a good way to figure out which heroes are good. QM is for shits and giggles and trying out builds.

If you're having problems as Li-Ming or Nazeebo, it probably has more to do with the heroes you're playing against, than your actual skill or playstyle. It could also be that your tank is just retarded and not protecting you well enough, or your positioning is off.

Not one single hero is good in every situation, the drafting process is about picking heroes that "cover each others asses", so all strengths and weaknesses are covered.

QM is not for balancing, try to do that in Ranked. Not gonna happen.

T A S T Y

> If you're having problems as Li-Ming or Nazeebo, it probably has more to do with the heroes you're playing against, than your actual skill or playstyle.
Or maybe you just have to accept that you are the retard that feeds 10+ deaths and should git gud before looking to put the blame on others. There's that too.

> playing Samuro
> dive 1v3
> low-hp greymane btfo
> send an obv illusion (#2) walking away
> they focus the real sam
> switch with #3
> they assume im running, butcher charges the illusion walking away
> finish off auriel
> leave
> mfw

Reminder that people IN THIS VERU THREAD think best orc is bad

Has there been any talk of adding an actual Forsaken Human rep or did the fucking elf and abomination take that spot.

what level do you have to be for a maximum mastery taunt?

FUN and CUTE

100. Not implemented yet, so you're still a level 15 plebe anyway :^)

Shademaster Kiryn and Riko when?

yeah because playing Nazeebo against a Nova/Valeera/Zera is just so easy to do

I used to be shit with Sam for about one level.

Then I choose'd the ultimate that lets you control your illusions, holy fuck.

Why is Li Li such a popular girl?

>Shademaster Kiryn
My fucking dick, the only other Forsaken girls I can think of is Lilian Voss, but her storyline was mostly abandoned.
I fucking swear to god if we just get fucking Moroes im firebombing Blizzard HQ.

>quick memes
really gets ur noggin joggin huh

She's a little girl so she attracts pedophiles.
She's got that eastern appeal so she attracts weebs, who are mostly pedophiles.
She's super easy to play so even a braindead pedophile weeb can feel useful.

Guess that sums it up.

We'll get moroes, he's le' ebin blizzard hearthstone ebin mmee guy bbun

why he got trash whore valeera ebin hearthstone goyim ebinnnn le trolled wai wai ebin

>there are that many D.va fags in this general and she's not even in the game yet
>I have to share posting space with D.va fags from now on

In QM anything can happen. I'm just saying to look at the big picture. Also that retard combo will never work in HL, mby try that.

hey bruh dont hate on moroes just because blizz is memeing him

Shes 17

I like Sylvanas a lot but it just bums me out she's basically a fucking elf we will never get an actual Forsaken.
Valeria fucking took the WoW rogue rep too, so the iconic Undead Rogue role is taken.
I'M ANGRY, ANGRY ABOUT ELVES

How do I into exp? Should everyone have about the same amount or will there always be roles that have more/less?

You're joking, but you actually aren't wrong.

That being said, as an intelligent, fit, white, western man, I too like li-li, but that is mostly because I liked Mists of Pandaria. I got two li-li skins in my boxes and I thought that was rather nice.

Never say never.

Do you seriously want more rogue assassins in this game?

If it looks like a little girl, talks like a little girl, sounds like a little girl? It's a little girl.

I KNOW YOU BLIZZCUNT DEVELOPERS ARE READING THIS

YOU KILL THIS NIGGA AND REFUSE TO ADD HIM BUT YOU ADD THAT FAGGOT VARIAN WHO DID NOTHING AGAINST THE SCOURGE

I AM DISGUSTED

HOW MANY LIKES FOR OUR MEN UNDER GOD

Not really, its just always been an iconic WoW class\race combo.
The only other thing I could think of would be like Forsaken Shadow Priest.

shes 15

>as an intelligent, fit, white, western man
>I liked Mists of Pandaria

they'll add a forsaken for sure, everybody likes them

she's fucking 14, look at her overwatch bio page

>Liked Mists of Pandaria
>Didn't really care for the Pandas
>No Mogu hero
>No Mantid hero
>No Jinyuu hero
>No Hozen hero
>No Grummle hero

Sorry, but Moira or Anduin will be shadow priests. There are no noteworthy forsaken anyway except for Sylvanas ex-human fuckboytoy.

It could work, they added literal whos before and the Forsaken need a rep.

Maybe some day, literally no limits on hero additions if you wait long enough

>"Oh let's give everyone free legendary weapons!"
>Well Paladin NEEDS Ashbringer lol since we can't make new shit
>"But Tirion still has it!"
>Not for long...

>minor
>It's okay she's only a year away from being legal

fun times, doesnt even matter if they get 100% if you can just pop your ult and kill everything other than the big ones in a second

I am a cultured man who appreciates many flavors of contemporary media.

Putress could work.

>towers of shit
>be valeera
>ripping through enemy team with 12/0
>enemy takes all of our towers
>stupid idiots on our team are teamfigting over an altar while our core gets slowly pumelled by autofire
i am so fucking tired of this forced 50 trash
Just because i won 8 games in a row doesn't mean i have to be punished for being good at this fucking game
I wish i had a fucking 5 stack so i could laugh matchmaker in the face

>amerifats still have legal age at 18

laffin @ u lads

Is that why you save pepe memes

I would love Putress. He could work as a good villain, has a rivalry with Sylvanas, Decides to use the nexus as the experimentation grounds for his newest strains of the plague. Have him be a specialist that focuses not on combat, but instead spread disease and poisons of various types to various areas. Have stuff like
>Tosses a poisonous vial with high range, deals steady damage to those caught in it, cloud expands to a point until the vial in the middle is broken
>Drops a canister of noxious gas, reduces the attack speed of heroes, minions, and structures in it's range until the canister is broken
>Have a panic sprint where he speeds up and leaves a slowing poison trail behind him similar to a Singed from LoL
>Have his ultimate be an experimental blight, causes extreme mutation in allied heroes and minions, causing them to take less damage and have higher structure damage while in the cloud.

We still don't have a proper Tauren hero, we have no Draenai, we have no gnome. Even the main races aren't all represented. We just got our first troll hero like 4 months ago.
That said, your list is mostly shit, but Lei Shen as the mogu hero would be cool.

>greymane
>S tier
what a fucking meme

>valeera
>good at the game
>losing objective because youre off doing fuck all doing le sick solo kills ebin!!!!1!1
>good at the game

valeera players really are subhuman

Yes.

Does chest reroll count towards lego pity timer?
So if i reroll 4 chests 3 times am i guranteed a lego?

>quick play
>pick a hero with no wave clear
>lose
>pick a hero with wave clear
>win
Explain this.

At high level play hes GOAT, which is what grubbys list reflects

>does matter what char i pick , zul'jin / thrall / sometimes illidian give me trouble
>also every shit range character (specially those with stealth

is fire stomp wave clear?

>quick play
>pick a hero with no wave clear
>lose
>pick a hero with wave clear
>lose
Explain this.

We're not sure yet.

But "probably".

Blizzard has just been phoning in Forsaken lore since Wrathgate, Sylvanas just takes the spotlight so much that you'd think the faction was just her.
They haven't created a single new notable undead since Putress, Lilian Voss was supposed to be something big but they dropped the quest line completely because they literally forgot.

How accurate is Grubby's tier list in the OP?

New player but what the fuck is Samuro really shit tier and Probius and Greymane S tier? Even as a new player this list looks like shit.

What's the point of Valla atm? Zuljin big green dick is 100 times better at the auto attack role.

Game is a little more complicated than that. Having xp is an advantage only so long as you can keep it up. You still have to win objectives and teamfights to win.

Would be nice to know, because i often get one or two rares in a common chest and if i reroll i mostly get only commons then, but i count those rerolls as an investment into the coming lego

There is only one true objective and that is the Core.

Wave clear gets you to the Core and is important on most maps. Only exceptions are maps where objectives do direct damage to the Core or buildings.

>is Samuro really shit tier
Yes. Samuro is a not a real Assassin, but a Specialist. He's a noob stomper against pubs who don't know how to spot invis enemies and/or don't pay attention.

>Probius and Greymane S tier?
Can't say much for Probius (I don't like him) but Greymane is a tank deleter and fucks shit up and has always been a top tier pick.

he is goat when a non retard pilots him.
wave clear
merc camps
poke
dive
% dmg
solo laner

he got it all and still hovers around 50% WR because his E is a retard magnet.

Early game is too weak for solo heals, late game is strong.
Makes morales obsolete. Though they did reveal they did that on purpose because her rework is "soon".

>but what the fuck is Samuro really shit tier
We're talking solo ranked play here. High Master.

If you play him PERFECTLY, then he is decent at best.

Probious is in S because of his insane waveclear, the best in the game.

Greymane is in S because of skillset, allowing him to in and out just to execute a target. His poke is really strong once you max out his quest.

Probius is map dependant. If the maps objective is to hang out in a spot he's top tier.

Samuro is just complete shit. He's a stealth assassin with terrible damage and relies entirely on gimmicks that require your opponent to be retarded.

Greymane has massive burst damage while also being able to poke and has tons of mobility.

We will find out once people get better data and there is less guesswork involved

But given that Blizzard devs said that unlike Overwatch, HotS loot box contents aren't pre-rolled so it is probably that rerolls count towards the pity timer.

Again, time will tell.

>Everyone just saying Stitches, Sylvanas, Arthas and Anub'arak are all just "undead" so there doesn't need to be Forsaken.
I'm gonna need more firebombs.

More mobile, more burst + poke, better waveclear, stuns at the cost of being slightly more squishy and having a tad worse sustained damage.

Oh ok, shit. I thought I was being memed on, but I'll use that list as a reference today. I want to try the draft mode.

What would his kit even be? We already have Uther.

>differentiating between scourge and forsaken
Who gives a shit. They're zombos, skellies and homosexuals regardless of a so called "free will".

Why hasn't Cursed Hollow been deleted from this game yet

>How to do better on Hanamura as support
>Pick BW
>Get bribe level 1
>Cash in the hard camps to get extra healing for the team (fountain equivalent)
>Push fort/keep
>Win

Samuro isn't shit tier, but he's not incredible either
Not much of an assassin until after 16, but still very disruptive and good at taking camps
One of his biggest strengths In HL is still baiting out ults and powerful spells on illusions before teamfights, because even in master people forget his self cleanse