/sthg/ - Sonic the Hedgehog General

Sage will be happy about that

That, or make it so they can only be earned via score, so you can't just rack them up.

Sonic 3 and Knuckles is my favorite game of all time but the way you can just easily rake in dozens of lives and continues in special stages and bonus stages is ridiculous, not to mention they repurpose the sonic 3 stages to hand out lives all the time.

C-Can we get more fujoshit in here?

Best ship. Hands down.

>/sthg/ hits #1000
>massive party and reminiscing
>x100 threads no longer have any meaning or fanfare
>have to wait for #2000 or #2500 for milestones again
Kinda sad, now that I think about it.

Did someone say fujoshit?

there is another issue though,
what do you put in the levels for secrets and bonuses?

i don't want it to be like s4 ep2 where they put in red rings just for the sake of it.

I guess you have it be a case of items being currency for content, like concept art or music tracks like generations.

It's beautiful

>Didn't the DS version get some exclusive handheld rep?
I have no idea... But now I'm interested.
How is DS generations anyway? I know it has biolozard instead of chaos and Big Arm instead of Egg Robo, both of which i view as better. How many other changes does it make?

S3&K has a save system, so lives don't even matter really in that game.

If there's going to be punishment for dying in a Sonic game, it's going to be a shitty rank or score, not a game over.

Game over still serves a purpose.
Being able to infinitely spawn at the previous checkpoint would be terrible.

If anything, not enough games have game overs.
Halo for instance would be much more nail bitting and less trial and error if you got 3 lives per checkpoint.

just read issue 50 of archie comics.
a nice finale for that era.

is their a story behind it?, I can only guess it was because of the oncoming sonic adventure. They wanted to a way to change robotnik to eggman. or was it just cos' it was the 50th and it was a milestone.

Classic Sonic learns the Homing Attack for the Dreamcast and Modern Era levels
Casino Night instead of Chemical Plant
Mushroom Hill instead of Sky Sanctuary
Emerald Coast instead of Speed Highway
Radical Highway instead of City Escape
No Heroes, 06 levels
Water Palace from Sonic Rush instead of Rooftop Run from Sonic Unleashed
Tropical Resort instead of Planet Wisp
Egg Emperor instead of Egg Dragoon

>Game over still serves a purpose
No it doesn't. What happens in a game over? You go back to the title screen, then select where you left off and play it again. Woah, big punishment there. You wasted less than 5 minutes of my time.

>Being able to infinitely spawn at the previous checkpoint would be terrible.
Taking away your rings and counting the time you spent before you died to the clock is punishment enough. Starting a whole boss over from the start is enough. The challenge in Sonic isn't about success, it's about blazing through it through practice, looking and feeling like a badass.

Issue 50 was supposed to be the the finale for the comic series, but then they realized that the comics were still going. Also, I really hope you read Sonic Super Special #6 instead of the actual issue #50.

the directors cut yeah.

Why is he the best sonic character lads?

>#750
>Not Sage edition
Step up senpai

Technically the 750th reply is still a bump. The next thread will be sage edition.

Just woke up. Thank you to the user who did my request of coloring that image, great job.

My nig-hogs

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>750th reply
Meant to say post

Characters who will never appear again after Forces flops

Amy Rose
Cream the Rabbit
Cheese the chao
Vanilla the Rabbit
Rogue the Bat
Shadow the Hedgehog
E123 Omega
Blaze the Cat
Silver the Hedgehog
Gemerl the Gilzoid
Eggman Nega
Vector the Crocodile
Espio the Chameleon
Charmey Bee
Jet the Hawk
Storm the Albatross
Wave the Swallow

The comics ending is a blessing since they were going to use the shitty deadly six in the next arc. Just having Sonic Tails, Knuckles,Metal Sonic and Eggman is enough maybe Orobot and Cubot as well

But that's wrong, you fucking retard. Half the appeal of the comics was we got to see badly written one-dimensional game characters be fleshed out with actual depth.

>Characters who will never appear again after Forces flops
>Amy Rose

>after Forces flops

>Halo for instance would be much more nail bitting and less trial and error if you got 3 lives per checkpoint.
You've never played with the Iron Skull on, then?

I have. But that's only 1 life

I don't get it. Why do you want Forces to flop so badly?

He's a shitposter.

So sega gets it through their heads that people like classic sonic and to give up on 3D sonic.it's why I want Mania to sell gangbusters so they see that from a money standpoint that it's not just purityfagging. it's smart to just ditch the fat and go with what works. As much as you and those like you like the extended cast, you're too small. You're like the small faction of starwars fans who like the new movies and the prequels. To put it bluntly, you guys are useless and nuisances in the grand scheme of things and if takes another flop compared to a game made by a fan to make Sega see then I'm all for it.

Don't respond to lazy bait, people.

Agree with this.

At the very least, lives should only matter the first time through.
Losing a life every time I restart a level to get a better time is just a nuisance.

>mania
I'd be surprised if you get a sequel within 2 years of its launch. pixel art is hell, especially for something as detailed as mania and complex as sonic. I'm willing to bet they added the remixed stages not for nostalgia's sake but to pad the game.

>posting dead comics
user, it's time to let it go. They're gone, you having this just rubs salt on the wound of those sad sacks. It's over,user.

Not him, but I don't give a shit about forces, but I don't want it to flop.

Ideally everyone should want both games to succeed. That way the entire base (sans adventure purists) are happy.

The fact that almost everyone is getting what they want and we have found a way to shitpost about it is really something.

>The challenge in Sonic isn't about success, it's about blazing through it through practice, looking and feeling like a badass.
Maybe in the boost games.
In the genesis games it's platforming first and foremost. And challenge without consequence is just bad game design for a performer.

Agreed.
Luckily game over isn't actually going anywhere so we can rest easy on the subject.

This so much. Making it so you just keep starting over at every checkpoint with no consequence would be terrible.

>wanting Forces to fail
I'm not excited for it either, but come on now. Some people are. Let them have their boost game. As long as we get ours, who cares?

>wanting mania to fail
This takes some special kind of retard.

Mania is essentially fail-proof already anyway. It has gained enough popularity that based on how much they're selling it for it will easily be a profitable venture for Sega, and they will take note.

It's like politics and religion, it's only a victory once the other side is completely destroyed. At least that's how I feel about it. Think about it, if you know you're in the right would you tolerate people still being idiots despite being proven wrong over and over again?

>The comics die
>The molestation of their characters will never yield, as people will endlessly circulate and create porn and lewd pictures.

youtu.be/AMFZx-JlRfc?t=23s

Found while procrastinating. Works way better than it should.

>YOU ARE HUGE!
>THAT MEANS YOU HAVE HUGE TITS!
>GROPE AND SQUEEZE!

Part of me wishes this was the first Sonic style squid character I've seen, but I've resided in dark places in the past.

Well done, though.

Changing the subject.

Generations 2.
Pick 9 stages, 1 from each game (s3&K counts as 1 game) and 3 bosses.

Let's forget the 3DS version of gens exists so you can use those stages if you want.

BABYLON WILL RISE AGAIN

>Generations 2
Green Hill Zone (Sonic 1)
Green Hill Zone (Sonic 1 8-bit)
Emerald Hill Zone (Sonic 2)
Green Hills Zone (Sonic 2 8-bit)
Green Hill Zone (Sonic Blast)
Great Turquoise Zone (Sonic Triple Trouble)
Green Hill (SA2)
Splash Hill Zone (Sonic 4)
Green Hill Zone (Sonic Generations)

Windy Hill
Sweet Mountain
Savannah Citadel
Boss: Egg Wyvern

Casino Park/BINGO Highway
Pyramid Cave
Sky Deck
Boss: Shadow & Diablon (GUN Fortress)

Lava Reef
Mystic Cave
Scrap Brain
Boss: Final Fever

We should still do x00's regardless. They don't come very often and they feel nice to have with all the art and shit.

Scrap Brain
Aquatic Ruin
Carnival Night

Red Mountain
Final Rush
Power Plant

Kingdom Valley
Dragon Road
Asteroid Coaster

Hey, maybe one of you doofuses can help.

I tried my hand at sketching this again for a few minutes and realized Omega's proportions are really hard to get right. Aside from the obvious (increasing the size of the chassis significantly to minimize leg length), do you have any tips for keeping him on scale?

1. Bridge Zone
2. Aquatic Ruin
3. Starlight Zone
B1. CD final boss
4. Ice Cap Zone
5. Rusty Ruin Zone
6. Final Egg
B2. Egg Viper
7. Crazy Gadget
8. Mystic Mansion
9. Lava Shelter
B3. Egg Emperor

>tips for keeping him on scale
Just grab a game render and practice

That helps with figuring out what's wrong with his proportions (I drew him long as hell, as if he's Gamma), but his scale in relation to other characters isn't really doable with the CG renders. Looking at official heights and other art of him next to characters helps a bit, but it's also really easy to make him too huge or too small when you try to draw him in relation to a human or a Mobian.

Thanks for the advice, though.

This right here Also, Sonic Adventure doesn't happen for a bit. When it does happen, you'll know because it's shoehorned in in the most awkward way possible

>Squid character
...do you live under a rock, user?

Thank god for that. Bout time we cut them permanently too.

Good.

The series should just be:

Sonic, tails, Knuckles, amy

And for bad guys

Eggman, Metal sonic

Thats all you fucking need. Mania is going to be exactly that, maybe without Amy but all the other ones no doubt.

>Amy
>Wanting a screeching retard fangirl
Why?

Still too many rodents.

It should only be Eggman and no one else.

I thought we were getting those shitty egg bots instead of Metal.

I forgot about those shitters. Goddammit, of course a Sonic game has to fuck up one key thing even if everything else seems right

well we know every standard animal sonic character is 3 foot tall (or something. too lazy to look it up). it shouldn't be too hard to figure out omega's height. in game screenshots would probably be better but not by much since things change between games

Because flower power. Trust me, I'd prefer just the classic characters, excluding Amy, but she just has to be there.

Besides, if it's 2D like mania, she won't say shit, so it doesn't really matter.
>Implying sonic won't take those things down like nothing after they find the weakness
Metal has become so popular I doubt he won't be in every game from here on out. Since generations he has gotten so much love and the feedback has been extremely positive.

Also, if Eggman won in forces, there's no way his ultimate creation didn't take part.

Console version
>Sonic 1: Star Light
>Sonic 2: Mystic Cave
>Sonic 3: Ice Cap
>Sonic CD: Tidal Tempest

>Adventure: Red Mountain
>Adventure 2: White Jungle

>06: Aquatic Base
>Black Knight: Great Megalith
>Colours: Astoird Coaster

Portable version
1: Spring Yard
2: Hill Top
3: Hydrocity
CD: Stardust Speedway

Advance: Angel Island
Advance 2: Hot Crater
Advance 3: Twinkle Snow

Rush: Dead Line
Rush Adventure: Haunted Ship

>>Implying sonic won't take those things down like nothing after they find the weakness
The problem is that they're there and are gonna be boses instead of Eggman in a mech like it used to/should be
>Because flower power. Trust me, I'd prefer just the classic characters, excluding Amy, but she just has to be there.
No she doesn't. We don't need an obligatory girl, this is the kind of shit that's ruining video games

Some of those choices seem pretty lame but
>tidal tempest

Are you fucking sub-zerious? Tidal tempest was just a tolerable labyrinth zone. Quartz quadrant would by far be the best choice.
>Gonna be bosses instead of eggman

You mean that you'll fight one, tails will figure out their weakness, and then they'll be destroyed in cutscenes? I think that's why you meant.

>No she doesn't.

From a marketing standpoint, yes she does. It's a selling point, whether you like it or not. If she's silent in a 2D game she's harmless.

>You mean that you'll fight one, tails will figure out their weakness, and then they'll be destroyed in cutscenes? I think that's why you meant.
I hope that's the case, because otherwise that's fucking stupid that they take the place of fighting Eggman himself

There's no fucking way they could goof up hard enough where you fight it more than once.

Fuck man I wish izuka was in charge.

Once again, the retards who stuck to the underbelly of this general don't have the common sense to ignore blatantly inflammatory posts in an effort to ruin our milestone fun - or, they're purposefully doing it just to fuck with us.

If they hadn't goofed up they wouldn't exist at all

Cry more

We are having reasonable discussions about forces, if you want "milestone fun" try creating a discussion about milestones or whatever it is you're getting at.

Oh wow. I didn't even notice we're at #750 ain't we.

>Metal
>Not superior Mecha

Cease this inanity.

I think TT works well for CD

I'm hoping that they could rework Tempest into a more pleasurable experience. The music is jammin' either way.

We need to stop treating "metal" like he's this overly consistent character. There are multiple "metal sonics", going from silver to "metal" to mecha to whatever the hell that was in chaotix

Lol bunch of Classicunts here today.

Imagine the fucking riot if they dropped everybody but Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, Amy, Eggman and Metal Sonic.

I think it's still slightly too early to judge if it's completely retarded or not. For now I just see it as a set piece to show the scale of how egghead has taken over. You have to have something bigger and stronger than a badnik, but not powerful enough like metal sonic to make you question why the whole city isn't obliterated yet.
God damn it I know you're the same fucking person who posts about mecha constantly. Mecha would be cool, but we all fucking know Metal sonic is just superior.
I feel like it wouldn't work in 3D, because it has to be confined but at the same time open enough to breathe. It doesn't help that Tidal tempest is extremely vertical, which doesn't really work in 3D.

Literally nobody would care.
Nobody cares about the autistic sonic """""canon"""""

And before you spurge out, I'm not one of the nostalgiacunts advotlcating for their removal. I'm just pointing out that it's not a big deal either way.

I don't even know where to start with this post, so I'll chalk it up to sparky.

>I think it's still slightly too early to judge if it's completely retarded or not. For now I just see it as a set piece to show the scale of how egghead has taken over. You have to have something bigger and stronger than a badnik, but not powerful enough like metal sonic to make you question why the whole city isn't obliterated yet.
Oh wow, we were talking about 2 COMPLETELY different things. I was thinking of those shitty robots from Mania, not the big ones from Forces. I wouldn't mind fighting one of those things once. Hard Boiled Heavies can fuck off

I'm probably as anti sparky as they come.
I don't care about much lore, just pointing out that there's multiple sonic robots you fight in the classic games.

These past few days of peace were nice.

>extremely vertical, which doesn't really work in 3D
That's true, it wouldn't adapt well at all. It could just be redesigned with a more horizontal layout, but at that point the design detracts quite heavily from the original. I would just as happily take a full Stardust Speedway.

Reminder that foxes eat hedgehogs

It's only a matter of time before everything changes. Forever.

Oh.

Yeah those hard boiled heavies are gay, and will probably be bosses. At the same time though, as long as the fights are cool, does it matter THAT MUCH if Eggman is controlling the machine or whatever? Besides, I'm willing to bet the head hard boiled heavy is just metal sonic anyways.
Yes that's why they have different names.

Silver, metal, mecha.
Inb4 flood of fags who say they're tired of SS

>no! Each metal has a specific name in the fandom! Get it right!
And to think you're calling ME sparky. Kek