got a bro whos been shittin on american muscle lately. i need some advice on how to throw shit back on imports especially ricers
help
got a bro whos been shittin on american muscle lately. i need some advice on how to throw shit back on imports especially ricers
help
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Tell him to go get hid wife fucked by VAGmed or get Hiroshima'ed
You could always run him over with a mustang.
i dont own a stang doe
he will never go to track day in his overpriced shitbox with no resale value, and pigmerican cars are infinitely more comfortable
racing between lights is and always will be the best
>pigmerican cars are infinitely more comfortable
Wow, is it 2003 again?
>mustang rear seat anything but a paperwork/lawyer's tool
1. Buy an 09 challenger R/T
2. Take out everything not mandatory for driving (airbags, backseat, trim, most of the interior)
3. Swap this in
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4. Race him
>engine from a 2000 viper
What? Why would you do this, that thing only made 450bhp. You'd get better power by modding the 5.7L V8 in the R/T with the money/effort involved in that swap.
Or just buy a 2010 Camaro SS. 420hp for under $20k
It obviously lacks leg room and quality but if I'm being perfectly honest the rear seats of the S197 mustangs are comfy as shit.
I had an 06 for a while and was always surprised at how comfortable the back seats were.
1 word
torque
...
What do you drive OP just dust his ass.
delet this
Pushrods vs DOCH
Pushrods
push
GODS
Why did you bump this garbage thread?
but American Muscle is awful
you just need to become enlightened as he is
Agreed
08 chevy silverado m8
Anyone who drives a cuckscle car is an embarrassment
>daddy am i a man yet
>my wife's boyfriend says my challenger is a cute car
>but American Muscle is awful
this
Veeky Forums is an import board
...
Even the dog knows that's fucking stupid.
most people who talk shit on muscle cars have never had the opportunity to drive or ride in one
>Veeky Forums Veeky Forums autism edition
I like that you posted the engine thats in my car and are comparing it what you get in an atom V8
>my sub $5k V8 shitbox and the WORLDS FASTEST ACCELERATING STREET LEGAL CAR
>damage control
stay BTFO
DOHC > Pushrods
>that purple
>that plate
>that angrybird vinyl
unironically kill yourself, my dude
its like comparing a lawnmower to a Lamborghini
also
>when DOHC V8s are so large you have to use bespoke engines for comparison
how about we compare a 5.0l V8 DOHC to a 5.7l V8 OHV
also the little hartley makes less power than a fucking mustang so kys anyway
>GAYBRD
Loving every laugh
not my car
my Fbody is a trans am and its victory red
also my '91 ed6 civic hatch in pic
stay BTFO loser
DOHC is superior to pushrods
come back to me when your car makes over 270rwhp
>my ford focus zetec is superior because DOHC
driving an import is what made me hate muscle after driving them for all of my youth
muscle is just garbage for enthusiasts who like to drive
good for people who like mashing the gas like a teenager
when I have more fun with a 130hp Civic than I ever had in a 400+ hp El Camino I just cant give a shit about muscle any more
130hp.... bro stop it.
>driving an import is what made me hate muscle after driving them for all of my youth
my ED6 civic hatch and T/A
my honda is fun because it has suspension mods but if you actually know how to DRIVE the trans am is way funner
>not drifting full throttle burning 275 rear tires
>not getting loose at quarter throttle
D16Z6 with I/H/E>modded L36 apparently
yes I realize that 390hp was more like 300 net most likely
sounds more like you just enjoy mashing the gas like a teenager and not actually driving
muscle cars are garbage to drive bruh
Ive driven a 4th gen F body (but it was a Camaro) feels way too heavy and leaves much to be desired on any road that isnt straight
You can do high comp build on d16, highest I seen was 160whp.
>sounds more like you just enjoy mashing the gas like a teenager and not actually driving
>drifting is just "mashing the gas"
lol OK
your el camino probably needed suspension and brakes
my year fbody comes stock with twin piston front brakes with rear disc and its double wishbone front suspension. and it has a forward facing rack and pinion steering.
the el camino has CONVENTIONAL steering and the ride height of a pickup. it also has TERRIBLE TERRIBLE weight distribution and is fucking leaf sprung in the rear
tldr camino a shit your retarded
>eg si is funner than an V6 el camino
>all muscle cars are shit
bro this CRX is probably faster than a my work truck
TRUCKS A SHIT
Unironically gay
ehh that car is long gone
I wouldnt bother with a D series unless I was turboing it anyway
B20VTEC or LSVTEC if I ever get the chance at another Honda
your Firebird is shit too
every muscle car is shit
>implying a 60/40 ratio with a big block Chevy isnt fun to a retarded teenager
who cares I had my fun with it then rode in a Honda and never looked back
uhh it had one of these L36s in it
not a 3800
>who cares I had my fun with it then rode in a Honda and never looked back
>i had fun with my GF but once i sucked a cock i'll never go back to girls
>your Firebird is shit too
more like its not even comparable to your shtibox and it actually handles good and is fast. your a fucking retard lmao
your camino probably didn't even have good tires.
>CRAGERS 'ese
so it was stock? with a V8 swap?
>wow its fucking nothing
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I'd buy this if I had the spare cash.
>inb4 someone says it's too expensive
Is it an 8 cylinder?
its a 20 year old Pontiac its a shitbox too
and nah they handle like ass as well
I mean maybe one day you will see your errors or maybe youre just braindead and think shit is gold but whatevs
and girl penis is best penis so fuck your analogy
the engine itself had an intake carb and headers
the fuck you gonna rebuild a muscle car when its still gonna be shit when youre done
also
>60/40
was it clocked on a race scale or some shit? did it have a rear ballast?
otherwise thats woefully hopeful. a stock fbody is 55/45 and it has an aluminum engine set way back. and its not a truck
>the fuck you gonna rebuild a muscle car when its still gonna be shit when youre done
>not knowing about the A-body/G-body/S10 chassis
these old GM's are widely adapted platforms to build, yours just sucked ass
>Hotchkis Sport Suspension 89009-2 Stage 2 Extreme TVS Kit for 78-88
yeah thats what you DID NOT have
>BRO ITS JUST GONNA SUCK WHEN ITS DONE LOL
60/40 is a complete guess
but a small block El Camino is about 56-58% at the front
theyre still shit no matter how much you sugar coat a turd
just get a Honda or a Miata
easier to make faster
already handle better
easier to make handle better
no reason for muscle except muh feels and drag faggotry at an extreme level
Mods, you should be ashamed of yourselves. Everyone in this thread, you should be ashamed of yourselves.
honda owner here again
kill yourself you fucking faggot
>can't afford to make a muscle car good
>just talks shit on them
its all about the build HOLMES
Your bro is probably right tho.
>easier to make handle better
does your civic even had mods lmao
Drove an 06 Civic Si for eight years. Got a '17 Mustang GT now. I miss that old gearbox, even with its weird synchro issues, plus it was a thousand pounds lighter so it felt nimbler. That said, for grunting around, the pigfat stang is fun.
>when you have to spend tens of thousands just to make it "good"
lmao
muscle cars are such garbage even their fans admit it
all it really needed was tires and a rear sway bar
First of all, kys :)
>all it really needed was tires and a rear sway bar
>not full polly bushings
its like you think your car is good but its not
yeah making your daily a stiff rattly piece of shit is a smart idea
I already dealt with American build quality so I had enough of that
>they handle like ass
>just get a Honda or a Miata
Filtered
Just use what everyone on this shit board uses
>Bashes muscle because he can only afford a civic
>Bench racing
>RWD meme
In reality you should just make him realize how retarded he is for boxing himself into one category of cars instead of just enjoying all of them
>Bashes muscle because he can only afford a civic
what? the whole point of the muscle car is/was cheap power.
best way to approach the world
when someone says something you dont like just pretend theyre not there
top kek at the thin skinned babies on this board
those days are long gone
imports are much more cost effective
If you consider your new Japanese car beating a 50 year old family car an achievement to celebrate then you are fucking retarded.
yeah sorry a 130hp economy car can beat a 400hp "performance" car
not my fault muscle cars are sad
>those days are long gone
pshaw, not in the used market. imports hold their value much better. you can get a used mustang or camaro for less than what you would pay for a similar year Camry.
lolwat
Mustangs and Camaros are several thousands more expensive than a Camry
What 400 hp car are you referring to?
Knowing you, you're probably using test data from 1965 on a 4 door family sedan with bias ply tires.
Is it wrong to want a pigfat car that exceeds 2 tons?
>this BTFO
>5.7 liters
>only makes 270hp
how fucking pathetic, pushrodcucks
stay BTFO
lol all those old pieces of shit would get dominated on any track by just about anything like that Daytona that gets destroyed by a fucking Odyssey minivan
then most of them are slow as hell too running 16s 15s and 14s at the most
reminder that people run 9s on bias ply polyglas tires which came out in the late 60s
Then state what 400 hp car your talking about and tell me what cars are running 9s on polyglas.
Why do you consider a new car beating antiques such an achievement? Do you really set the bar that low. Are you going to tell us how your car is faster than a Hudson Hornet?
>setting the bar low
>"performance" cars lose to minivans
wat
Im sorry that American cars were complete shit but I mean European and Japanese performance cars of the time arent so dreadful
>Then state what 400 hp car your talking about
pretty much any muscle shit that had that much
yes I know they are actually making much less
>cars are running 9s on polyglas.
FAST drag cars
270 at the wheel. 325hp
My civic is almost stock like quiet with full suspension
People who sperg out about that shit already drive miatas with their interiors pulled out. If you are just driving the car and not taking it to the track (I assume like a good chunk of Veeky Forums) who gives a fuck about curb weight.
You literally gave no answers and provided generalizations without evidence, and then you admitted that you exaggerate about hp numbers.
>crank HP
>relevant
stay BTFO
uhh no
the companies exaggerated
everyone knows their 425hp V8s made more like 350hp
not my fault your too autistic to realize that all muscle cars are shit and there are no reasons to get into specifics
>still no specific models
Holy fuck you're dumb
>autism
you dont need specifics
a goddamn Prius would beat pretty much any muscle car around a fucking autocross or something
>a goddamn Prius would beat pretty much any muscle car around a fucking autocross or something
(You)
muscle cars are complete shit
he's shitting on muscle cars because he's been bullied at stop lights
Now put them on a NASCAR track. Try comparing muscle and pony cars to Japanese cars of the same era, and don't pick cars designed to do vastly different things like you just did. A Challenger T/A, Camaro Z28, or Mustang Boss 302 were all designed with curvy tracks in mind for the Trans Am racing series, the Daytona was literally a stock car for NASCAR and can hit 200 mph.
>damage control
You forgot your trip.
>only one person is making fun of me
a Daytona can barely do 150 in stock form
if you wanna bring up race cars then once again Europe wins cuz hell Germany was doing 240mph in the 30s on public roads
and no lol
a "performance" car loses to a fully loaded down minivan
fuck outta here with your grasping shit
A performance car from 50 fucking years ago dingus
FOR FUCKS SAKE Veeky Forums
that car was 36 years old when that Odyssey came out
a performance car made for racing homologation that loses to a loaded down family hauler
embarrassing you can keep throwing up age all you want
something like a 911S from the same time would kill both
>something like a 911S from the same time would kill both
A 911s costed a teeny, tiny bit more than a muscle car genius. If you pit a 911s against a bugatti or some shit, guess what happens