Got a bro whos been shittin on american muscle lately...

got a bro whos been shittin on american muscle lately. i need some advice on how to throw shit back on imports especially ricers

help

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Tell him to go get hid wife fucked by VAGmed or get Hiroshima'ed

You could always run him over with a mustang.

i dont own a stang doe

he will never go to track day in his overpriced shitbox with no resale value, and pigmerican cars are infinitely more comfortable

racing between lights is and always will be the best

>pigmerican cars are infinitely more comfortable

Wow, is it 2003 again?

>mustang rear seat anything but a paperwork/lawyer's tool

1. Buy an 09 challenger R/T
2. Take out everything not mandatory for driving (airbags, backseat, trim, most of the interior)
3. Swap this in
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4. Race him

>engine from a 2000 viper
What? Why would you do this, that thing only made 450bhp. You'd get better power by modding the 5.7L V8 in the R/T with the money/effort involved in that swap.

Or just buy a 2010 Camaro SS. 420hp for under $20k

It obviously lacks leg room and quality but if I'm being perfectly honest the rear seats of the S197 mustangs are comfy as shit.

I had an 06 for a while and was always surprised at how comfortable the back seats were.

1 word

torque

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What do you drive OP just dust his ass.

delet this

Pushrods vs DOCH

Pushrods

push

GODS

Why did you bump this garbage thread?

but American Muscle is awful

you just need to become enlightened as he is

Agreed

08 chevy silverado m8

Anyone who drives a cuckscle car is an embarrassment

>daddy am i a man yet
>my wife's boyfriend says my challenger is a cute car

>but American Muscle is awful

this

Veeky Forums is an import board

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Even the dog knows that's fucking stupid.

most people who talk shit on muscle cars have never had the opportunity to drive or ride in one

>Veeky Forums Veeky Forums autism edition

I like that you posted the engine thats in my car and are comparing it what you get in an atom V8
>my sub $5k V8 shitbox and the WORLDS FASTEST ACCELERATING STREET LEGAL CAR

>damage control
stay BTFO

DOHC > Pushrods

>that purple
>that plate
>that angrybird vinyl

unironically kill yourself, my dude

its like comparing a lawnmower to a Lamborghini


also
>when DOHC V8s are so large you have to use bespoke engines for comparison

how about we compare a 5.0l V8 DOHC to a 5.7l V8 OHV

also the little hartley makes less power than a fucking mustang so kys anyway

>GAYBRD

Loving every laugh

not my car

my Fbody is a trans am and its victory red

also my '91 ed6 civic hatch in pic

stay BTFO loser

DOHC is superior to pushrods

come back to me when your car makes over 270rwhp


>my ford focus zetec is superior because DOHC

driving an import is what made me hate muscle after driving them for all of my youth

muscle is just garbage for enthusiasts who like to drive
good for people who like mashing the gas like a teenager

when I have more fun with a 130hp Civic than I ever had in a 400+ hp El Camino I just cant give a shit about muscle any more

130hp.... bro stop it.

>driving an import is what made me hate muscle after driving them for all of my youth


my ED6 civic hatch and T/A
my honda is fun because it has suspension mods but if you actually know how to DRIVE the trans am is way funner

>not drifting full throttle burning 275 rear tires
>not getting loose at quarter throttle

D16Z6 with I/H/E>modded L36 apparently

yes I realize that 390hp was more like 300 net most likely


sounds more like you just enjoy mashing the gas like a teenager and not actually driving

muscle cars are garbage to drive bruh

Ive driven a 4th gen F body (but it was a Camaro) feels way too heavy and leaves much to be desired on any road that isnt straight

You can do high comp build on d16, highest I seen was 160whp.

>sounds more like you just enjoy mashing the gas like a teenager and not actually driving

>drifting is just "mashing the gas"

lol OK

your el camino probably needed suspension and brakes

my year fbody comes stock with twin piston front brakes with rear disc and its double wishbone front suspension. and it has a forward facing rack and pinion steering.

the el camino has CONVENTIONAL steering and the ride height of a pickup. it also has TERRIBLE TERRIBLE weight distribution and is fucking leaf sprung in the rear

tldr camino a shit your retarded

>eg si is funner than an V6 el camino
>all muscle cars are shit

bro this CRX is probably faster than a my work truck

TRUCKS A SHIT

Unironically gay

ehh that car is long gone

I wouldnt bother with a D series unless I was turboing it anyway

B20VTEC or LSVTEC if I ever get the chance at another Honda

your Firebird is shit too

every muscle car is shit

>implying a 60/40 ratio with a big block Chevy isnt fun to a retarded teenager

who cares I had my fun with it then rode in a Honda and never looked back

uhh it had one of these L36s in it

not a 3800

>who cares I had my fun with it then rode in a Honda and never looked back

>i had fun with my GF but once i sucked a cock i'll never go back to girls

>your Firebird is shit too

more like its not even comparable to your shtibox and it actually handles good and is fast. your a fucking retard lmao

your camino probably didn't even have good tires.
>CRAGERS 'ese

so it was stock? with a V8 swap?

>wow its fucking nothing

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I'd buy this if I had the spare cash.
>inb4 someone says it's too expensive

Is it an 8 cylinder?

its a 20 year old Pontiac its a shitbox too

and nah they handle like ass as well

I mean maybe one day you will see your errors or maybe youre just braindead and think shit is gold but whatevs

and girl penis is best penis so fuck your analogy

the engine itself had an intake carb and headers

the fuck you gonna rebuild a muscle car when its still gonna be shit when youre done

also
>60/40

was it clocked on a race scale or some shit? did it have a rear ballast?

otherwise thats woefully hopeful. a stock fbody is 55/45 and it has an aluminum engine set way back. and its not a truck

>the fuck you gonna rebuild a muscle car when its still gonna be shit when youre done

>not knowing about the A-body/G-body/S10 chassis

these old GM's are widely adapted platforms to build, yours just sucked ass

>Hotchkis Sport Suspension 89009-2 Stage 2 Extreme TVS Kit for 78-88

yeah thats what you DID NOT have

>BRO ITS JUST GONNA SUCK WHEN ITS DONE LOL

60/40 is a complete guess

but a small block El Camino is about 56-58% at the front

theyre still shit no matter how much you sugar coat a turd

just get a Honda or a Miata

easier to make faster
already handle better
easier to make handle better

no reason for muscle except muh feels and drag faggotry at an extreme level

Mods, you should be ashamed of yourselves. Everyone in this thread, you should be ashamed of yourselves.

honda owner here again

kill yourself you fucking faggot

>can't afford to make a muscle car good
>just talks shit on them

its all about the build HOLMES

Your bro is probably right tho.

>easier to make handle better

does your civic even had mods lmao

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Drove an 06 Civic Si for eight years. Got a '17 Mustang GT now. I miss that old gearbox, even with its weird synchro issues, plus it was a thousand pounds lighter so it felt nimbler. That said, for grunting around, the pigfat stang is fun.

>when you have to spend tens of thousands just to make it "good"

lmao

muscle cars are such garbage even their fans admit it

all it really needed was tires and a rear sway bar

First of all, kys :)

>all it really needed was tires and a rear sway bar

>not full polly bushings

its like you think your car is good but its not

yeah making your daily a stiff rattly piece of shit is a smart idea

I already dealt with American build quality so I had enough of that

>they handle like ass

>just get a Honda or a Miata
Filtered

Just use what everyone on this shit board uses
>Bashes muscle because he can only afford a civic
>Bench racing
>RWD meme
In reality you should just make him realize how retarded he is for boxing himself into one category of cars instead of just enjoying all of them

>Bashes muscle because he can only afford a civic

what? the whole point of the muscle car is/was cheap power.

best way to approach the world

when someone says something you dont like just pretend theyre not there

top kek at the thin skinned babies on this board

those days are long gone

imports are much more cost effective

If you consider your new Japanese car beating a 50 year old family car an achievement to celebrate then you are fucking retarded.

yeah sorry a 130hp economy car can beat a 400hp "performance" car

not my fault muscle cars are sad

>those days are long gone
pshaw, not in the used market. imports hold their value much better. you can get a used mustang or camaro for less than what you would pay for a similar year Camry.

lolwat

Mustangs and Camaros are several thousands more expensive than a Camry

What 400 hp car are you referring to?
Knowing you, you're probably using test data from 1965 on a 4 door family sedan with bias ply tires.

Is it wrong to want a pigfat car that exceeds 2 tons?

>this BTFO

>5.7 liters
>only makes 270hp
how fucking pathetic, pushrodcucks

stay BTFO

lol all those old pieces of shit would get dominated on any track by just about anything like that Daytona that gets destroyed by a fucking Odyssey minivan

then most of them are slow as hell too running 16s 15s and 14s at the most

reminder that people run 9s on bias ply polyglas tires which came out in the late 60s

Then state what 400 hp car your talking about and tell me what cars are running 9s on polyglas.
Why do you consider a new car beating antiques such an achievement? Do you really set the bar that low. Are you going to tell us how your car is faster than a Hudson Hornet?

>setting the bar low
>"performance" cars lose to minivans

wat

Im sorry that American cars were complete shit but I mean European and Japanese performance cars of the time arent so dreadful

>Then state what 400 hp car your talking about

pretty much any muscle shit that had that much
yes I know they are actually making much less

>cars are running 9s on polyglas.

FAST drag cars

270 at the wheel. 325hp

My civic is almost stock like quiet with full suspension

People who sperg out about that shit already drive miatas with their interiors pulled out. If you are just driving the car and not taking it to the track (I assume like a good chunk of Veeky Forums) who gives a fuck about curb weight.

You literally gave no answers and provided generalizations without evidence, and then you admitted that you exaggerate about hp numbers.

>crank HP
>relevant

stay BTFO

uhh no

the companies exaggerated

everyone knows their 425hp V8s made more like 350hp

not my fault your too autistic to realize that all muscle cars are shit and there are no reasons to get into specifics

>still no specific models
Holy fuck you're dumb

>autism

you dont need specifics

a goddamn Prius would beat pretty much any muscle car around a fucking autocross or something

>a goddamn Prius would beat pretty much any muscle car around a fucking autocross or something
(You)

muscle cars are complete shit

youtube.com/watch?v=9nAx2jtr3K8

he's shitting on muscle cars because he's been bullied at stop lights

Now put them on a NASCAR track. Try comparing muscle and pony cars to Japanese cars of the same era, and don't pick cars designed to do vastly different things like you just did. A Challenger T/A, Camaro Z28, or Mustang Boss 302 were all designed with curvy tracks in mind for the Trans Am racing series, the Daytona was literally a stock car for NASCAR and can hit 200 mph.

>damage control

You forgot your trip.

>only one person is making fun of me

a Daytona can barely do 150 in stock form

if you wanna bring up race cars then once again Europe wins cuz hell Germany was doing 240mph in the 30s on public roads

and no lol

a "performance" car loses to a fully loaded down minivan

fuck outta here with your grasping shit

A performance car from 50 fucking years ago dingus

FOR FUCKS SAKE Veeky Forums

that car was 36 years old when that Odyssey came out

a performance car made for racing homologation that loses to a loaded down family hauler

embarrassing you can keep throwing up age all you want

something like a 911S from the same time would kill both

>something like a 911S from the same time would kill both
A 911s costed a teeny, tiny bit more than a muscle car genius. If you pit a 911s against a bugatti or some shit, guess what happens