i fucking hate how literally everything other than what i'm using right now is overpowered
Mason Fisher
>have all these things that indicate unembered is the baseline >b-but muh fall damage
Adam Sanchez
Oh, dear Brother..
Connor Davis
Yeah that was the idea, invade while cosplaying the desert pyromancer, but both whips and flame fan seem to be ineffectual against anyone spamming R1 with their giant weapon of choice. Jesus christ i don't want to be another one of the faggots swinging around gaels or some shit.
Benjamin Sanchez
This is now a dragon thread. Post dragons. Knightfags need not apply.
Josiah Clark
Summoning again Claytus
god fucking damn it AoA is fucking cancer
Dominic Brown
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Justin Kelly
d-did you guys get the dragon sorry ; _ ;
Ian Howard
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Logan Mitchell
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David Fisher
i have no idea what happened, he wasn't even animating on my screen. did i even do any damage?
Evan Bell
*blocks your path*
Gavin Perez
>have all these things that indicate that unembered is the baseline
Well what do you have? Because all you told me was how you "felt" it was that way because of the thoroughly subjective difficulty.
Show me some damage calculations that treat unembered as the baseline.
Until then, I consider the way fall damage is calculated and the fact that DS3 health system is almost exactly the same as DeS' except the percentages between your default embered / body form hp and the penalty from losing it as proof that Embered is the baseline :
Bloodborne's officially spoiled me for eldirtch abominations. Why didn't they do anything with Aldritch and his Deep? It seemed like there was shit just waiting to be done with it.
Dylan Gutierrez
>these fucking Millwood Knights At least you pushed the tree down
Hunter Barnes
Does the Dark Hand level with int or faith? I'm gonna try and give the Dancer a nice spank session since there's no fucking Faith weapons early in the game. I'll have to get the SSS.
Blake Gray
knocked the tree down, Claytus. summoning
Ryder Butler
yes
Nathaniel Rodriguez
>Show me some damage calculations that treat unembered as the baseline. x1.3 for embered
>think you'll finally bring up a second point as to why embered is baseline >muh fall damage!
Angel Morris
what do you wankers want to trade for Friede's Great Scythe?I need em!on pc
William Rodriguez
what did he mean by this
you just stood in front of the dragon somehow dodging literally everything he threw at you and help whacking it for 1.2k per swing and then did a 7.5k damage riposte
Colton Perry
Dark Hand scales with everything
Owen Cox
ur mum haha
Jonathan Hall
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Oliver Morris
>x1.3 for embered What is the context here?
Gavin Bell
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Aaron Jackson
Well fuck me, there's barely anything that goes well with dark mask.
Christopher Phillips
your embered HP is 30% more than your hollowed hp
John Price
redpill me on curved swords
Lincoln Lewis
Yes.
Josiah Bennett
I liked the setup with the warlock mask more to be honest.
Isaac Myers
Alright, at this point you're just trolling me. Whatever, if you have absolutely no facts to back up your argument then this conversation is over.
Christopher Morales
>there is no dragon torso crystal
Jose Stewart
they're to dark souls as curved noses are to the reality
Mason Davis
water some fun builds for a knight class
Matthew Lewis
Straight swords with shorter range and usually worse weapon art than stance.
Levi Sanchez
he's someone else how is stating facts somehow trolling
but hey, bring up your fall damage again!
Thomas Jackson
am i fashion yet?
Chase Howard
But an infinitely better running attack.
Lucas Peterson
I see. I'll keep trying, but I'll go back to that setup if I don't find anything that looks good enough.
Xavier Martinez
Ok guys, I'm currently rocking this bad boy on my strength toon and it's pretty fun. Should I make it Heavy or is vanilla just fine? I got 9 dex and won't be investing anymore because dex is for fags.
Gabriel Butler
>court sorcerer hood No
Luke Peterson
water some fun builds for the knight class is deprived a bad starter do i have to min max if i want to pvp i want something special snowflake but not trash
Henry Lopez
holy shit my sides
Kevin Davis
Summoning at Chapel now, Claytus
i think there is a Pyromancy on the floor of this shit room, so lets try getting that
Dylan Butler
Sign is down
Jackson Scott
Would this build be salvageable for low level PvP or is it already a lost cause? Just started DS3 and have no idea what the meta is.
Isaiah Ramirez
Eh not really, your stats are all over the place
Mason Young
Where exactly are Katanas on the weapon spectrum in terms of damage? Above straight swords? Above GREAT swords? Below Axes?
Robert Moore
ds3 btw
Christian Nguyen
>hey, bring up your fall damage again I think that damage calculation formula for a type of damage that's consistent for all character types regardless of protection used is a fairly decent one.
If there are other percentage based damages that are exclusively based on your unembered health, let me know!
If we could get someone who actually goes in-depth into how the mechanics work, we could get an answer for this but in the meanwhile based on how it's in DeS and the fall damage calculation being the sources I have to go with, I'll retain the impression that embered is the default state and unembered is a PENALTY. I'm not demanding that you accept this as fact.
Asher Hughes
man what a fun build to play against haha
Jack Stewart
Low level PvP meta is dumping points into VIG and using standout raw/high base damage weapons.
Nicholas Gomez
What would you say I should focus on? Str/Dex or pyromancy?
Brayden Clark
and you can remain your incorrect thoughts, just don't sperg out when someone tells you that you're wrong
Jack Ward
Devs want to call it a bonus, it's a bonus. The enemies and bosses are balanced around unembered health just like DeS anyway.
Henry Davis
do you think Hawkwood was being serious here?
Maybe the Legion only look gloomy and cold, but inside their keep they're adding alcohol to the Wolf Blood and having wild parties.
Christopher Thomas
What are you guys doing? I could help if needed.
Kevin Hill
Perhaps this is just my bias, but I feel like DaS3 has a feeling of "wow I'm so strong now!" when you ember after a long downtime, but in, for example, Demon's Souls, you get a feeling of "i'm glad i'm back to normal" when your health comes back, and when you're at minimum max health you just feel weak as shit. I think this feeling comes from how the enemies are balanced.
Asher Robinson
Got the Pyromancy, Claytus. Summoning at Chapel again
Parker Allen
it just makes it more depressing that they fell to the abyss, maybe thats why hes depressed
David Stewart
>tfw you had to become a dragonsis to get knight senpai to notice you
Tyler Kelly
AoA and Friede. PS4
Ethan Bailey
Going through AoA on PS4 right now but I died and he hasn't summoned me back.
Nicholas Mitchell
what sl
Ryan Lee
I think the devs want to call it a bonus to not scare away people unaccustomed to the punishing DeS health mechanic.
So for those people it's easier to accept that "oh, I'm not LOSING any max hp, I just don't have my BONUS hp!" even though you can't summon while you're unembered and for all intents and purposes it's handled like the health mechanic in DeS, only with the numbers adjusted to be more reasonable.
Wyatt Russell
Ree how do I beat door shield
Hunter Perez
Shut up. It's bonus health.
Thomas Gutierrez
Best chime for healing spells?
Planning a healslut build to co op with my newbie friend
Jackson Clark
60 ish I believe
Luis Nguyen
Can Whips be infused? If so, what would be the best weapon/infusion for a Simon Belmont build?
I think Yorshka's Chime has the highest spell buff if that's what you're after.
Caleb Jenkins
Well yeah, in Demon's you WERE weak as shit in your Soul form. 50% health decrease is the reason the Cling Ring existed in the first place, and with the Cling Ring your health was capped at 75% of your max health which was more or less the same as what DS3's unembered form is.
>but I feel like DaS3 has a feeling of "wow I'm so strong now!" when you ember after a long downtime
That's intentional from the devs I imagine, it's probably supposed to be encouraging players when they see their characters burst into flames and get their full health back (or bonus health however you want to look at it)
DeS Soul form also made it so that your footsteps don't produce any sound. While I think that having gameplay differences for Soul and Body form other than the hp was theoretically a nice touch, I personally like being able to hear my armor rattling and so on.
Having worked at sales I think that's just them intentionally wording it so that they don't scare away newbies. Technically you can also argue that the body form in DeS is a "bonus" but in reality the soul form is an intended penalty for dying.
Leo Green
Let me know when you reach Friede
Jackson Cox
Yep, thanks pal
Christian Nelson
Just got to her
Jayden Price
Yorshka's is only best after 45 faith, though Saint's talisman before that
Isaiah Ross
I gotta take a shit, Claytus. btw I did get the parting flame, but not the other one.
Wyatt Fisher
>DeS You start off in body form, so losing half your health after you die for the first time is a penalty >DaS3 You start off unembered, so gaining ember health after killing Gundyr is a bonus
Dominic Peterson
It's bonus health the same way DeS body form was bonus health.
Alexander Roberts
Im the host, we are at her
pw is Taaka
Im SL59
Thomas Nguyen
lf only l could be so grossly incandescent..
Austin Gonzalez
*gently knocks* DO YOU WANT TO BUILD A SNOWMAN?
Isaiah Moore
You need to go through that fog gate we were at and beat an NPC for it. You gotta do it yourself though, it won't let me in.
Josiah Smith
Can anyone on PS4 help me with Champion Gundyr?
My character is SL 30 with +2 gear, need Prisoner's Chain for a cancerous invasion build.
Jayden Rivera
I can if you don't care to wait a couple minutes.
Sebastian Torres
Kite shield or K***ht shield? Both are slightly similar but there's some aesthetic look to each and it's hard to choose.
I'll be aking a STR/FTH build too
Josiah Gutierrez
Using an ugs how do i deal with fags who just keep rolling and spam parries when i swap to straight sword?
Should i just use a halberd since they practically can't be parried?
Grayson Sullivan
>You start off in body form The actual game starts you off in Soul form. The tutorial is meaningless because you literally can't die in the tutorial unless the boss kills you in which case they punt you back to the Nexus.
But the player cannot avoid getting killed in the tutorial so the real game starts you in Soul form and you recover your body form after that the first time when you kill Phalanx.
>You start off unembered, so gaining ember health after killing Gundyr is a bonus The thing is : Gundyr is a mandatory boss to defeat unlike Vanguard. If From would've made the boss a "fuck you" like they made Vanguard into, a lot more players would just throw the game out the window right there if they got killed, their health decreased and they were forced to have a go at Gundyr over and over until they killed him on decreased health.
The mechanic is still a penalty for dying, it just kicks in after you kill the mandatory tutorial boss.
Mason Garcia
>there are people dedicated to making your life miserable as you're just trying to play the damn game