Germans had actual claims on majority german areas throughout Eastern Europe

>Germans had actual claims on majority german areas throughout Eastern Europe
>After Nazis are defeated, all germans are driven out of eastern Europe
>'Germany' ends up being smaller after the two wars of unification
I almost feel sorry for those autistic krauts desu

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start shit get hit

Why? They were genocidal savages.

this

It's like when an autistic kid picks a fight with Chad and gets the shit beaten out of him. You can't help but feel some sort of pity for catastrophic misstakes like that.

except that autistic kid tried to murder Chad.

Good goyim

Yeah but still. It's like, he doesn't know any better, and he really thinks he will win. He's completely unprepared for the harsh truth. And then he gets so rekt his entire language loses half of the area it's spoken in.

most of europe was under Germanic ruling class for almost 2000 years
same story throughout most of europe, including eastern europe:
Makhno revolted against the Germanic ruling elite:
>At the age of 11 Makhno began working as an ox drover on the Janzen estate in Silberfeld. Here he began to develop a hatred for the German ruling classes. In his memoirs he writes: "At this time I began to experience anger, envy and even hatred towards the landowner [Janzen] and especially towards his children - those young slackers who often strolled past me sleek and healthy, well-dressed, well-groomed and scented; while I was filthy, dressed in rags, barefoot, and reeked of manure from cleaning the calves' barn."[17] Makhno also worked at the Mennonite owned Kroeger plant in Gulyai-Polye.

>Throughout the civil war, Mahkno and his troops raided many German and Mennonite colonies and estates in the Katerynoslav Oblast. The larger rural landholdings of Mennonites were prominent targets due to their wealth and proximity to Gulyai-Polye.[18] The Schönfeld colony, located adjacent to the Huliaipole area, was unique in that it consisted predominantly of Mennonite estate settlements across an expansive area. Mennonite colonies were targeted by Makhno because, as owners of prosperous farms and estates, they were considered kulaks - wealthy farmers that exploited the labour of the surrounding, mostly Ukrainian, peasantry. Ukrainians were traditionally hired by wealthy Mennonites as house servants and farmhands
literally Germans ruled over eastern Europe
they were the aristocracy, the tsars, the landowners, the factory owners
the natives were the oppressed slaves/serfs
Ethnic Germans and Mennonites themselves, having been stripped of their wealth and property during the revolution. Some Mennonites accompanied punitive detachments against the peasantry, which greatly contributed to the growing bitterness between Germans/Mennonites and Ukrainians.

still won't feel bad for him. he'd need urgent psychological/ideological help if he has those violent tendencies every once in a while.

Well, to continue the analogy of an autistic kid, this one got lobotomized by Chad as well.

>Still revising traceable information and using individual cases to present them as evidence

Why bother, a simple google search can refute them easily?

10/10 well memed my friend

Considering what they did in Eastern Europe they've been treated rather soft.

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>>Germans had actual claims on majority german areas throughout Eastern Europe
But they didn't. By that logic Pakistan has a claim to half of UK, Turkey has claim on Germany and Poland on the rest of Europe. Just because they gypsied in doesn't mean shit

Not really though. The Germans weren't paki tier undesirables, they were the upper, ruling class in several countries, as well as had a sizeable minority/majority in some countries, notably Czechia and Poland.

In the czech case, germans were pretty much just lower class settlers who settled in the area after being invited by czech kings long before habsburgs got to the throne.

Austrians having a claim to sudetenland might have some common sense behind it, but germans pretending like they have any right for it is little but autistic rambling.

inb4 austrians and germans are the same thing

Give it 50 years and that might not seem so funny.

I, too, feels a sense of pity for Germany during the world wars. They really had no clue what they were doing either time. However, my sympathy is focused towards all the ordinary workers who had to suffer through all this bullshit. The plans that the Nazi leadership had for Europe are impossible to justify by any ethical or practical standard. I often wonder what would have happened if Hitler had just not chimped out by invading Poland.

The war had to break at some point. Anschluss was lucky, Munich agreement was luckier and occupying rest of czech lands without allies finally going fuck it was the absolute mad man tier.

That only counts for Baltic states and Prussia.

>The Germans weren't Paki tier undesirables
They certainly were, hence Germanization being strongly opposed by the natives.

What if the guy that lobotomized the autistic kid had earlier been lobotomized by the autistic kid's father?

>Every employed Germans means a British worker idle
But that's not how economics work?

>implying insulting charged anti-immigration posters are a modern invention

No, that counts for Poland as far down as Wroclaw/Vratislava/Breslau inb4 "Prussia", Czechia in general and Sudetenland in particular, and various pockets in Eastern Europe. Volga germans are the first example I can think of.

As another example, when Prague was liberated from the Nazis, 50,000 natives who spoke german were driven out.

>Germanization was not wanted because germans were lesser.
C'mon fampai, that's hardly it. It was resisted because of nationalism, a love for your own country and culture, as it should have been. But that does not mean that there were signifigant german pockets of people inhabiting Eastern Europe.

Closer to the truth than most might think. In the year leading up to the war, Germany had about a third of the numbers of the French army. Even with ludicrous proportions of rearmament expenditure, some Wehrmacht leaders went: "are we going to fight this war with refrigerators?" referring to the financing of non-defense industrial growth.

pechimu ti ninavidish slavobratstvo?

By that logic Israel has claim of the USA

Nestor Makhno's anarchist army generally targeted Germans/Mennonites because they were thought of as "Kulaks" and an entity generally more advanced and wealthy than the surrounding Ukrainian peasants. The Mennonites Germanic background also served to inflame negative sentiment during the period of revolution. Makhno himself had served as a slave on a Mennonite estate in childhood and harbored negative feelings based on treatment and abuse he received by the Germans while employed there. Hundreds of Mennonites were murdered, robbed, imprisoned and raped during this period, and villages including (and around) Chortitza, Zagradovka and Nikolaipol were damaged and destroyed

>Ostkolonisation aka germanic reconquista and genocide of slavs
>Ostsiedlung German eastward expansion
>Volga Germans, Transylvanian (Siebenbürgen) Saxons, Transylvanian Landler, Zipser Germans
>Galician Germans, Crimea Germans, Sudeten Germans, Carpathian Germans, Forest Walddeutsche, Gottschee
>Banat Swabians, Sathmar Swabians, Bessarabia Germans, Bukovina Germans, Regat Germans
>Ethnic conflicts erupted between the newly arrived settlers and local populations, sometimes bloody, and expulsions of native populations are also known.[3] In several areas subject to the Ostsiedlung, the existing population was later discriminated against and pushed away from administration.[4][5]

>In 983, the Polabian Slavs in the March of the Billungs and the Northern March stretching from the Elbe River to the Baltic shore succeeded in a rebellion against the germanic rulers


>Klaus Iohannis (Transylvanian Saxon), the current President of Romania

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transylvanian_Saxons#Privileged_class

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ostsiedlung


germs constantly lost territory to the slavs

what used to be magna germania and ostrogoth including crimea and black sea became ukraine, poland, czechia, slovakia, romania etc...

the germs slav conflict is eons old and ethnic cleansing was practiced by both, with germs constantly loosing to booming slav population

but germs still managed to usurp the slavs and rule over them through kings, tsars and their eastern empires

>Genocide of Slavs
You mean cultural assimilation or killing off Slavic population?

both, depending on the events transpired

remember Czechs and Germs were slaughtering eachother for eons

>Frankish kings initiated numerous, yet not always successful, military campaigns to settle eastern slavic lands
>campaigns against Slavs included Wendish Crusade against the Polabian Slavs (or "Wends") of what is now northern and eastern Germany; Livonian Crusade against BaltoSlavs, Latgallians, Selonians

>Armed conflict between the Baltic Finns, Balts, Slavs against their Saxon and Danish intruders to the north and south had been common for several centuries before the crusade.

>The germanic crusaders attacked Pomeranians and other Slavs, despite these people having already been successfully Christianized.

>The Teutonic Order's attempts to conquer Orthodox Russia

>northern crusades against the slavs
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Crusades
After the Northern Crusades against Balto-Slavs, the Germanics quickly came to control all the administrations of government, politics, economics, education and culture of these areas for over 700 years until 1918, despite remaining a minority ethnic group.


In contrast to the Germanic rulers, the ethnic majority, the native Estonians, Latvians, Slavs had restricted rights and privileges and resided mostly in rural areas as serfs, tradesmen, or as servants in urban homes. This was in keeping with the social scheme of things in Imperial Russia, and lasted well into the 19th century, when emancipation from serfdom brought the native peoples new political rights and freedoms that freed the natives from their germanic oppressors.
eastern europe's indigenous rural population enjoyed fewer rights under the German nobility compared to the farmers in Germany, Sweden

We should have exterminated every germanic person on earth after they tried to destroy Europe for the 1000th time. FUCK GERMANS

>balto-slavs
Didn't know the Northern Crusades took place during the migrationary period.

Germans do not have the capacity to learn anything besides war, hate and greed.

It's probably a matter of biology much more than history, but I would wager that the reason is their own brains. And as such to prevent a war on the scale of WW2 ever again the total Papuafication of the German race is the preferable utilitarian option.

Germany doesn't give up. They're still aiming for world dominance. They're being sneaky this time around, but Britain was smart enough to realize it soon enough

calm down Nigels and leave the EU already

>In contrast to the Germanic rulers, the ethnic majority, the native Estonians, Latvians

You've copy-pasted, revised and merged several sections from an article about Baltic Germans and their behavior towards their native servants and Ukrainian serfs.They only speak of Latvians, Estonians and a portion of Ukrainian Serfs, not all Slavs.

>Volga Germans, Transylvanian (Siebenbürgen) Saxons, Transylvanian Landler, Zipser Germans
>Galician Germans, Crimea Germans, Sudeten Germans, Carpathian Germans, Forest Walddeutsche, Gottschee
>Banat Swabians, Sathmar Swabians, Bessarabia Germans, Bukovina Germans, Regat Germans

You forgot to add that most of them were simple peasants who were invited to ply the uninhabited Russian land.

>In 983, the Polabian Slavs in the March of the Billungs and the Northern March stretching from the Elbe River to the Baltic shore succeeded in a rebellion against the Germanic rulers

Yes, the Holy Roman Empire

>rural population enjoyed fewer rights under the German nobility

The numbers of imported German nobility were negligible at best, in case you've forgotten that.

>but germs still managed to usurp the Slavs and rule over them through kings, tsars and their eastern empires

That only succeeded in Bulgaria and Bohemia, even the Gothorp branch of the Romanovs had to subject itself to a thorough Slavicization and Russification.

Why have germanic people always seeked to conquer, assimilate, or genocide slavs throughout history?
>Danish and German invasion of Polabia
>Teutonic invasion of Russia
>Germanic domination of Velikomoravia
>Flemish crusade against the Bulgarian Kingdom
>Anglosaxon rivalry against Russia
>Numerous Germanic propaganda literature portraying slavs as a genetically inferior.
>Generalplan Ost

Peter the Great, accelerated the germanization of Russia, brought many Germans into his empire. His successors also filled important positions in diplomacy, administration and the army with Germans. One has merely to examine the names of the leading personages of that time to notice that Germans were dominating the upperclass of Russian life.


"Privilege of German", the Germans/Mennonites were granted additional rights (freedom from war-and civil-service for all time, no swearing of oaths in court, the right to carry on a business or trade, and more), while native slavs lived as serfs with no rights except to be farmhands and servants to their masters.

Native Slavs hated the unjust German "privileges" and economic domination and found them to be a foreign body that owned the native serfs, ie Makhno and his revolt against the Germanic elites

Emperor Joseph II attempted to revoke german privilege in the late 18th century. His actions were aimed at the political inequality within Transylvania, especially the political strength of the Saxons and the destitute of the natives. Although his actions were ultimately rescinded, many Saxons began to see themselves as being a small minority opposed by nationalist Romanians and Hungarians

this anti-german sentiment was always popular in eastern europe and a natural continuation of the ancient epic genetic struggle for superiority between the germanic and slavic

>lebensraum
>Northern Crusades
>Generalplan Ost
>Ostsiedlung
>Drang Nach Osten
>Ostkolonisation
>germanisation
>enslavement and ethnic cleansing of slavs
>greater germania