There's people who would unironically spend $60k on a fucking Audi A4 rather than $55k on this

Seems like it's not. newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/cto/d/1970-dodge-challenger-t/6201303760.html
I wouldn't want it if it was modded, but the fact that the engine isn't the original one bothers me a bit still.
>muh safety
lmao fucking numale
this
also this
any Audi that isn't the R8 is badge-whore bait, hence made for the nouveau riche

>ugly
>slow
>uncomfortable
>awful to drive
>horrible economy

I mean an Audi A4 is better in every possible way

He's not me, I'm the one you called illiterate. But I agree with him nevertheless. And I'm not obsessed, just appalled. The lack of taste people have nowadays is utterly heartbreaking.

actually it would be the perfect car if it was white
but you wouldn't understand, it's a freedom thing

hold the fuck up, are you telling me that the Toyota Supra is now at the same fucking price point as god damn old boomer muscle cars?

JESUS FUCK, why the fuck would you be a Poopra fanboy anymore?

most people always saw cars as something to get you from A to B destinations. nothing else. Most people aren't car enthusiasts.

You are just a pretentious fuck thinking you are better because you want to drive an older car that you can't even afford yourself.

Im an American

I know freedom

its how I know American cars from back then are garbage

especially when its an old ugly 383 pos that costs the same as a RS3

>t. boomer

>winga dinga dinga dinga

>$60k
more like s4
I generally prefer faster cars, and as such would chose the $50k audi with $10k in mods

That one is probably cheaper because of the non-original engine, but I agree with you
It's not about it being older.
It's about it being raw and iconic while the other is bland and generic. It's about it being a work of art while the other is a cuckbox.
And you're right about me being unable to afford one... for now.
How is it ugly? You have no taste.
>RS3
lmfao enjoy your audisteer further worsened by it being a Haldex.
And by the way, it's sad that an American doesn't understand the value of freedom.
I'm 25
A fully loaded A4 is 60k

>A fully loaded A4 is 60k
and has a ton of features that challenger doesn't. compare the equivalent a4 its $39,000

the freedom to buy a better car is quite well understood by me

just because its an overrated shitbox doesnt mean its a good looking car

especially not with those awful walmart tier wheels

you live in post-freedom America
you aren't free to buy any car you want, regulations went beyond reasonable after 1973
>(((features)))
Yeah, like a 2.0 4-banger, kek

cars are better now
theres more market freedom now as well

2.0 4 banger is still faster than the Challenger

>cars are better now
>theres more market freedom now as well
lmao

your opinion doesnt outweigh objective facts

If you had the chance to daily the Challenger vs the A4, and you had an actual job and social life you spent a lot of time in the car getting to, you'd choose the A4. But you're a poor manchild who thinks image outweighs practicality.

Iconic doesn't count for shit when the car handles like ass, gets single digit MPG, breaks down, and isn't very comfortable. All the shit no one talks about these days was very real in the '60s-70s--cars not starting below freezing, flooding, gas leaks, brake failures, etc.

I have a newer muscle car and I'd trade it in a second for a BMW that's just as fast and a hell of a lot better built.

why would I want an old shitpile that gets BTFU by a modern minivan?

reminder you can get an s4 for the price of that challenger

RS3 starts at $54,500 too

>muh image
>muh practicality
lel, tell me what the Challenger can't do that the A4 can
most of what you said are dumb memes, and it probably breaks down less than the rebadged VW. Plus image is what an Audi buyer is after, because they would buy a VW Passat if not for that. The 383 gets 12 miles per gallon, a non-issue in America. It's not about "image", it's about enjoyment.

go fast, either in a straight line or around a corner

yummy. 335 ft-lbs of torque from 2500rpm stock, over 400 with a rechip

I'd rather get a Boxster.
Plus those are base models, weren't "features" your argument lads?
>201 km/h isn't going fast
lol

a base model econobox today has more features than a 70s car let alone a premium sedan

>Plus those are base models, weren't "features" your argument lads

Features were 's arugment
>A fully loaded A4 is 60k
I know reading is hard sometimes

pity that challenger is limited to 201km/h

Good Ol Merican Muscle
>No Airbags
>No ABS
>Carburated
>No Luxury Features
>No AC
>Boomer Magnet

Das A4
>Practical for Modern Age

A4 is $30k new you cuck, an S4 is about 50k.
That being said I'd never buy another Audi, Cause Audi is a shit car to own if you're poverty tier.

My first car was a 1968 Mercedes 280SE, I loved that car, and it was good to me. But man So Cal summers were brutal in that thing. Fucking brakes locked up on me every week, Steering was rough on it top. Once I got more modern cars I havnt looked back. It's a good Sunday car to own, but I wouldn't advise daily driving a classic.

That doesn't match the torque on the 383
hotrod.com/articles/mopp-0209-383-engine-restore/
(((premium sedan)))

>muh chrome wheel boomer bucket

>there's people who would unironically spend $55k on a fucking Challenger than $55k on this

Nah, it wasn't my argument. I used the fully loaded A4 as a reference, to show that a generic Audi midsize FWD-based design can be more expensive than a car that is a historic icon to this day.

>base audis
lol
can't argue with that logic, now we're talking
I'd buy both if I could tbqh. Screw VAG though.

thats gross ratings

still slower than the Audi too

and yeah its a premium car a muffler doesnt mean much

and youre defending a car known for its shoddy build quality on top of it

>blueprinted block
>2017 pistons, rings, rods, crank, cam
>394 ft-lbs

so a complete rebuilt and it cant even match what the Audi gets with just a chip?

>a literal fucking VW
>""""""""""""""""premium""""""""""""""""

>and yeah its a premium car a muffler doesnt mean much
on the contrary, because it's a premium car that kind of corner cutting becomes unacceptable

yeh

You're either a child, an idiot, or a troll. Probably all three considering this is Veeky Forums.

can be, if you want a list of features that would jack the price of that charger up over $100k

welcome to companies where everyone cheaps out

>audis are chirons
inb4 underageb&

Jesus christ, have you owned a car from the '70s? Those things are tin cans. If any company sold a new car like they'd be laughed into bankruptcy.

>frameless doors

absolutely disgusting

If you'd pick a fully loaded A4 over that Challenger you're still a cuck

hey why not

its a VAG product

Audi is a VW is a Bugatti is a Porsche is a Skoda

apparently how it works

>what are platforms
lel
Audi apologists everyone

Color me a cuck then.

But if I was going to buy a 60k Audi, it'd be the ($50k) rs3 with a chip

big whoop

people spend millions of dollars on economy cars labeled as Hemi Cudas

same platform same car

Audi still a better car

>54k for a rebadged Golf
you can be damn sure I'll call you a cuck
>E-body Barracuda
>economy car
b8

forgot pic
oh and stay cucked

man this guy is lol

the early ones are just Valiants and people still pay 6 digits for them

people are crazy to pay that much for a rebadged shitbox

even the Ebody could be had with a slant 6

its just a garbage shitbox

>No Airbags
>No ABS
the car predates those
>Carburated
>implying there's anything wrong with that
cuck
>No Luxury Features
Leather everywhere, real wood as opposed to Audi's fake wood, a fire breathing V8 among other things would disagree with that
>No AC
sissy
>Boomer Magnet
boomer guys are cool, it's the boomer women who are bitter cunts. Boomer males follow their lead whenever their wives are present though, pretty sad.
>Practical for Modern Age
Nice buzzwords

>even the Ebody could be had with a slant 6
better than a diesel 4 banger
BTW no one will ever pay 6 digits for a rebadged VW Golf in our lifetime

where can I find an AWD golf that makes 335 ft-lbs of torque at 2500rpm? that sounds badass

Golf R with a couple of simple mods

this

It's so similar to the Audi one it isn't even funny, kek
Audifags on suicide watch

people have paid 6 figures for literal VWs

Audi is still a better car
and that diesel is better than a slant 6

because a Golf R is LITERALLY an S3 with a lower price tag

>people have paid 6 figures for literal VWs
yeah, ICONIC, HISTORIC VWs
>Audi is still a better car
lmao
>and that diesel is better than a slant 6
it's not. Enjoy your "luxurious" tractor sounds and imbalance.

Is being an Audifag the height of cuckoldry?
I'd rather be a BMWfag than an Audifag and I hate nu-BMW

old cars are shit

>Enjoy your "luxurious" tractor sounds and imbalance.

better than the "barely running" tractor sounds and imbalance of an american muscle ar engine

S3 and Golf R have the same price tag in their home market (42k€)

>being this ignorant

That really cements the idea that the S3 is a Golf with rings on the front

>golf and golf R are same car
yeah ok

ignorant of what

>Golf and Golf aren't the same car
The fuck are you smoking and where can I get some?

>trim levels are different models somehow
lol
next you'll tell me a Challenger Hellcat isn't a Challenger
of how balance works, dummy
Straight 6 engines are inherently balanced, that's why it was always a popular lineup for luxury cars.

yeah but who cares about the s3?
it's about the >RS3

>newsflash: VAG fangirls are uneducated

that's just a S3 with a few simple mods from the factory

>talking about V8s and L4s
>brings up L6s

slant sixes arent the same
they arent balanced at all very rough running engines

slant six engines guzzle gas shake and make no power to go with it

ITT: people want to pay $60k for a 145 horsepower baracuda

You were the one who brought up slant-6, punk. See .
And the balance of an inline-6 is inherent to its design.

nice strawman

>54k for a rebadged Golf
>$60k for a base model baracuda
I dont think you know what strawman means

and slant 6s are still rough running sacks of shit

and yeah but when it comes to sound I was referring to V8 since I said muscle car

but it is a rebadged Golf, and at least I don't want to buy a Barracuda for $60k when I can have a Challenger R/T for $55k
You made up the notion that I wanted a 'Cuda for $60k, and I'm here to dispel it for once and for all.

>and slant 6s are still rough running sacks of shit
lol
youtube.com/watch?v=hHCRXJ6b4fM
youtube.com/watch?v=EXo2KY43JQo

>rs3 is a rebadged 210hp FWD car
in the same sense that the challenger is a rebadged 145hp baracuda

How is an RS3 a rebadged Golf when the I5 engine isn’t even available for the Golf

now go drive one and experience how awful they are instead of watching videos of them with 0 load

It is, without a turbo, and only in America.

I would rather spend 60k on an audi than on that, 60k can get you a pretty nice audi

Outside of collectibility, the Challenger is an inferior car all around considering the S4 you could get for about 60K. Besides, unless that one is with the coveted 440 magnum or 426 Hemi, you get a big, carburetored engine that can barely produce around 300 hp.

>PUSHRODS

>the Golf R is AWD

>the I5 engine isn’t even available for the Golf
wrong lol

>rebaged golf
golf is FWD