The National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) has officially handed down a complaint that supports Tesla workers’ charges...

>workers love working 72 hours a week for shit wages

>muh hard factory work
>muh living wage
>muh greedy corporations givin muh jabs to immergants

If you like you know...got an education and a real job you wouldn't have to be a bluecollar shit-disturber.

Explain Amazon then

How elitist of you
Any further insights that you could bestow upon a poor plebian?

>implying they are forced to work there
>implying someone is holding a gun to their head enslaving them
>implying they don't have 100% freedom to accept and quit their job at any time

Yes companies should be legally forced to pay unskilled factory workers $28/hr to screw widgets into fidgets and press a few buttons.

>implying it wasn't coming anyway
>implying Musk is a genius
If he was such a fucking genius he would have been smarter than to build them in California, it was bound to happen

That's different. Amazon is run by many conscientious and experienced people who understand what makes a good workplace. They do not need a union. Pic related, just look at the talented individuals who ensure a Union is simply not needed.

looks like the tesla defenders are out in force today

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Do not deny the need for a Union.

Amazon is started by Jews and ran by Jews and were scared shitless when union rep arrived on their Distro grounds they made it trespassing if one shows their face at any of them

>known for creating a chaotic working environment
>openly encourages snitching on co-workers via an app that allows it anonymously, except to the managers
>had to recently raise starting pay company wide to try and keep unions at Bay

Oh yeah, they sure know how to run a good workplace

That sounds like a misunderstanding.

And yes, the majority of controllers in Amazon's structure are Jewish, but this is a good thing. They are trustworthy and will ensure safe conditions and fair wages.

Surely you aren't implying that they would create a toxic workplace?

What are you, an anti-Semite?

>provide 2 "15 minute" breaks that by the time you walk out of where you are in the DC and have to get back by the end of the break, it's actually 5 minutes
>provide 30 minute lunch break that by the time you walk out of your section and have to walk back to get your new instructions, is actually 20 minutes
>force workers to work at an unmaintainable pace
>if they don't work at said pace you transfer them to another department that has even higher speed requirements
>fire them if they don't meet said requirements

Sounds a bit semitic

Sounds like those workers need to work harder and stop complaining, they probably have no education or skills.

They should be thanking Amazon for giving them a chance to earn any money at all.

Workers can vote down a union you know. It happened to Boeing on the east coast. When a union deal is better than what the factory is currently paying you, you know that it's shit. It's getting stuck between a rock and a hard place.

Fuck off Bezos

My father is a retired GM worker. With UAW he was able to buy a brand new car at 18 ('72 Camaro). Was able to buy a home at 21. Raise three kids and send them to college. And retire the day he turned 65. He's living comfy now. UAW is pretty great desu senpai.

He also drove GM into the ground and forced taxpayers to fork over literally billions of dollars just to keep the company afloat.

They continue to produce poorly made, ugly, disposable cars.

Yes Unions sure are great, as long as one guy was able to bypass a life of hardwork and study through legal extortion via UAW.

Union shill please go, UAW is literally the posterchild for horrible unions run amok.

It's corporate that makes all the cars shit. Not the workers.

>Need to cut costs because people want cheap ass car.
>Can't lower the wage or fire literal niggers pushing buttons on a machine paid 90k a year base salary with obligatory 8 weeks vacation and weekly overtime.

Yeah fucking corporation reeeeeeeeeeee

Let's look at this closely:

You have $100 to spend on a car.

You decide a fair wage for unskilled workers to do primarily automated jobs is $17/hr.

You divert 17/100 to wages.

You have 83/100 left over to spend on R&D, parts, marketing, infrastructure.

But wait - UAW appears.

Now you have to pay 36/100 in wages, leaving 64/100 for R&D, parts, marketing, infrastructure.

Because of this, your engineers have smaller budgets and tighter schedules. Because of this your suppliers must make parts cheaper, using lower-grade materials. Because of this, quality suffers. Design suffers. Your end product ultimately suffers.

It's absolutely, without a doubt the fault of UAW that the Big Three were in such trouble. Corporate had their share of the blame, but the lion's share was with the unions - no argument.

>90k year base
I love this strawman

>or fire

This too. I had family who worked for Ford back in the 1990's, it's unbelievable the level of shitfuckery they had to tolerate there. Guys could fuck up the same thing repeatedly, call in sick all the time, go on "stress leave", and when they hit about 45 years of age they all started claiming for "long term disabilities".

The environment is insane - it actively promotes laziness and greediness. If anyone questions you, simply complain to your union rep and they start a giant shitstorm that fucks up everything even worse. The CHILDREN run the daycare now.

Yet regular cars are cheaper than the shit Tesla shits out. Your argument is invalid

It's absolutely fucked what they get paid, when you consider people with degrees (even applied degrees like environmental engineering) make 50-60% of that, and incur debt getting an education.

I have zero sympathy for autoworkers and their bitching. I have zero sympathy for Tesla workers, they can fuck right off.

It's called an economy of scale. Understand it.

Also, the lithium batteries are what drive up the price of Teslas more than anything - it's extremely laborious and expensive to extract lithium from the Earth.

I'll remember how bad unions are when I'm making 73 bucks per hour tomorrow.

I've had numerous times when an operator has falsified a part check or not called out the inspectors. My favorite complaint was the wall that was put in to prevent people from bypassing the final gage on the line.

I'd say remember how bad they are the next time your employer goes bankrupt and you lose your job and have no transferable skills - but the gov't will just bail you out like they always do.

>mfw people spend 7-8 years earning a Doctorate and become veritable experts in their field
>truly dedicated to the perfection of their craft which betters humankind

>most of them spend their lives in financial mediocrity, with lots of debt, and without any assistance should they find themselves in some misfortune

>yet bluecollar slugs with subhuman IQs make $80K/year and bully the government into maintaining their manufacturing cartels

laughing my fucking ass off

the absolute state of America

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Kek

KEK

Tesla is fucked. I bet they go bankrupt within a year. So much for electric cars.

jesus fucking christ, can't make this shit up

There's nothing wrong with getting a little stoney on break ya fucking squares

t. entitled factory slug

Blame the engineers and management. Not guys on the assembly line.

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supply and demand applies to jobs too

that's what happens when you tell everyone that they have to go to college and put down blue collar workers, it results in everyone and their mom getting a degree, suddenly those degrees are not so desirable and there is a shortage of blue collar workers

see and Blame undoubtedly rests with the greedy bluecollar slobs.

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youtube.com/watch?v=XVmKyJXHXRE

WITH SOUND!

>the way they scurry off like fucking roaches at the end

>If you like you know...got an education and a real job

if you looked for work lately, you wouln't say such retarded shit. blue collar work pays more than college educated work most of the time

/pol/ please you have to go back

Whatchu doin with day camruh dere bruh?

youtube.com/watch?v=ibxkB_S2r1k

fox news hypocrites. did the job get done? then who gives a fuck if they had a six pack and smoked weed during lunch.

Because who's to say Byron the Bluntman and Leon the Liquorswiller have gotten it to the specs it's supposed to be? I wouldn't trust these men even if they were sober

have you ever even step foot inside on factory floor? theres multiple fail safes for shit to be caught before being sent out, the companies do random drug tests, at factories in europe they even serve alcohol at the cafeteria at factories. that shit was on tv because the bailouts/alcohol/drugs are deeply unpopular and looked down upon as criminal in flyover america.

It's be more like 120 to spend since your employees would turn around and buy a car since they'd be able to afford it. Look at how much German companies pay their auto workers and Germany quality is much greater than American. Again, blame the engineers not the workers.

Anyone who's anti-union can fucking die. Workers' rights are too important.

Some one has to make your cars my educated friend. You would think college would teach you how to think farther than the personal level.

Aren't the jews usually for the electrification of road vehicles?

>did the job get done
well considering american car quality is on par with a flaming dog shit i'd say no

I'm about to start working on a car factory. The pay is absolute shit lol( 660 euros per month), but I need anything right now, I wonder if I'll like it.

>car quality
I guarantee you, the quality of the american car being high or low has absolutely nothing to do with the worker drinking or smoking weed at lunch and probably more to do with engineering problems of the production line itself and other issues of management and defects never being addressed because "muh production numbers".

Toyota makes cars in the US and pays their workers a hefty price tag, and they're considered to be high quality, in fact the freemont, ca tesla plant was THE best plant for GM and Toyota they have had in terms of quality.

t. musk
or maybe just a standard bootlicker

>duuuh, why you don't wanna pay moneys to muh union for muh 72$/hr paycheck?
>i m professional individual, muh workers rights!
Please, stay in your shit tier state with your shit tier Unions so the rest of us don't have to deal with the cancer that inevitably spreads when Auto manufacturer "unions" start popping up in a state.
Unions are a cancer on the working world and the fact that they've trained you greedy fucks to think that your way of thinking is at all acceptable or reasonable is a disgrace.

>people in charge of qc smoking weed has no effect on quality!

>being this ignorant of factory work

you must think everyone who smokes weed is incapacitated, its just like alcohol, some can drink a lot before it has an effect on them, some can't handle a single ounce of beer.

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>the Fremont, ca Tesla plant was THE best plant for GM and Toyota they have had in terms of quality.

But... they sold it to Tesla, who bought it with a GOV grant?

The highlight of my most recent 15 hour shift were the operators who managed to smuggle in a panini press and a blender unto our production floor. It made being forced into releasing 30 known bad vehicles feel better that my entire industry is a joke.

Unironically this...
There's a reason Miners and people who work in remote areas earn so much. Because people would rather spend 4 years in university, rack up six figures of debt and wage cuck it up in a 6 Sq ft cubicle for barely median income for rest for their life

We have a sorting company in house to sort all the bad parts we get from China.... and they are all people from, Chinese?

Nope. All our parts are proudly imported from Mexico.

Good thing, Bad thing? Why can the Germans do it , and not NA. I know , Eastern Europe A6.

If they don't like their job they should just quit and work at Chipotle.

I don't think Chipotle hires illiterate people with 3 felonies and neck tattoos. All Tesla has to do is say that if the factory goes Union it will institute background checks, drug tests, and require proper safety gear at at all times and it will get voted down 100 to 0.

Youre dumb as a hammer if you think they dont already do that.

Bad because our suppliers purposely ignore our packaging requirements even if we fine them. My favorite is building 48k of our product with rusted bolts straight out of a sealed box.

I know for a fact they don't :)

Our job website specifically states that we don't discriminate against hiring convicted felons.

I left and came back, In the day having an in house sorting company was (retarded)

You sound mad... Like you can't get a real job or something.

We have a contractor do supplier part sorting and end of line inspecting. They are very good at catching our screwups.

uhmmm.. i need sauce on that gif, reasons

>using cheap supplier
>using contractor to fix supplier probs

why the fuck dont you just find a proper supplier and pay what it takes?

US Too, but back in the day this shit was not done?

If our wealthiest customers learned that we use the same supplier for one of our high end products as our entry level product, they'd be pissed. Unfortunately it got mentioned by a vblogger recently. You don't want to know how long quality is actually tracked for.

We're only able to do this since we force the supplier to pay to sort their nonconformist parts. Though we gladly eat the end of line inspection cost since it will get us in trouble with final assembly if we let things slow down the line.

it reminds me of the place I worked for. bev distribution. So a lot of fridges to, over 10 years old. Management and industry practice was to repair everything. I know nothing of the industry, look at it and ask prices. New fridge $700, repairs cost at least $200 in parts alone.

But with a Union, you could bully your way to $100/hr!*

*After union dues you'll only be making $50/hr

The auto plant here had the entire floor walk out after someone got a paper cut and "didn't receive an adequate size bandage"

UAW has run every company it works with into the ground. Even the gun companies.

I have an aunt that is a GM factory worker in lansing. she hasn't worked since the 80s. She has been on disability since then. collecting more compensation then she would working. she should be retired and on pension, but still on disability collecting more than she would on pension. there isn't even anything seriously wrong with her. just a repetitive stress injury to one shoulder. so it hurts a little to raise that one arm above her head.

>there isn't even anything seriously wrong with her. just a repetitive stress injury to one shoulder. so it hurts a little to raise that one arm above her head.

what an entitled prick you are. she got a life time injury on her arm working for a company that makes billions in profits every year. and you think she's entitled because they're paying her for the work she did which caused the damage to her body.

I'm not a union defender in the slightest, but your aunt deserves the god damn money.

should have put her somewhere else in the factory. where she didn't have to raise that arm.

she has been malingering for decades and the UAW helps her get away with it.

Remember when Henry Ford gave his workers better conditions than the companies under union control

Nice revisionist history

it's nigger porn from the 70s, you cucked redditor faggot.

Stacey Donovan