Hyped constantly for over a year

>hyped constantly for over a year
>everyone stopped caring the day after press reviews
>hasn't made any headlines since last years LeMans or set any lap records
Was the Ford GT pointless?

Quite literally too much "It's not a V8, it doesn't sound good" killed interest in them.

>pointless
It got Ferd a lot of money from collectors, I think that was the point

>Was the Ford GT pointless?
No, it was meant to advertise a mediocre shitbox engine. it was never meant to beat the 488GTB or any of the Mclarens. its a collector's item and that's about it. you will never see any lap records because Ford won't let anyone test it. as it Super Car it might as well be irrelevant and that's disappointing because it could've been so much more. it could've been one of the greatest cars of the 2010s.

I just pretend the new TVR Griffin is Ford's super car.

>Ford test
Nope.

It's a legit complaint. It was a huge downgrade to go from a muhrika gas gussing v8 that sounded like heaven to what is literally a truck v6 ""eco"""boost"" meme engine.

Thanks for supporting British industry.

wait, it's not a v8? what is it?

Turbocharged V6 EcoBoost (that gets like 6 mpg)

Is this the new happy car?

I fell they wanted to pull an LFA but it didn't work out

>Already had the voodoo
>5.2 American flat-plane engine with a higher redline than any recent stock v8 in the us.
>Car breathes better and is ASKING for a twin tarbo setup, or at least a supercharger.
>Have $400,000 halo car coming up.
>No NA 5.2
>No supercharged 5.2
>No turbocharged 5.2
>A super high-string twin turbo 3.5 that you already had lying around in trucks.

Why?

The roadcar sounds...okay with the consideration that it's a V6. It's the racecar that sound like it's shitting itself everytime it's off throttle for turn.

they aren't making enough and it's too fucking expensive. the 04-06 was literally perfect -- raw, reasonably priced, pretty rare. this is just too over engineered and scarce

I still believe this is a huge prank by someone who wanted to create the most ironic super car in existence. if Gordon Murray had worked on this car it would've been fucking golden. He wouldn't have let it past the drawing board without Ford's best engine.

Supposedly the TVR Griffin is going to be racing at Le Mans and if its in the GTLM class and beats the Ford GT that will just be the icing on the fucking ironic cake.

No its not you stupid double digit iq faggot

Everyone in this thread complaining about this cars sound and feel is a literal busrider. If you were going to shit on it, it should be over the fact that it didn't do what it was designed to do: win Le Mans.

It honestly triggers Veeky Forums's autism too much for this car to be named after a vehicle they can't afford, hardly anyone cares about at this point, and from a brand/country they all hate anyways purely because of memes.

>Everyone in this thread complaining about this cars sound and feel
Not him but i really don't care about the sound as much as the fact that they shoved an inferior engine to what they had available in their Halo car which just seems retarded.
>Porsche makes the 918
>Nah, we don't want none of that specialized NA V8 making 600 HP on top of hybrid system garbage for a combined 800+ HP. we want a twin turbo V6 from a VW Jette that gets horrible fuel economy and makes less power because it wasn't designed for this application and we need to band-aid it because of how much we are trying to push it.
S M H!

>If you were going to shit on it, it should be over the fact that it didn't do what it was designed to do: win Le Mans.
Le mans is trash now and even its former biggest contenders don't want to race because the rules are becoming increasingly retarded with the forcing of hybrid systems that clearly aren't ready for this type of shit and making it mandatory so conventional designs don't embarrass the hybrids because they can't stop fucking breaking down. by 2019 or 2020 supposedly you are going to need to reach a certain distance on electricity-alone on your Hybrid powered prototype or you could be disqualified even if the car's ICE can still make it.

I'm more upset they didn't go for the Hyper cars and recreate the 1960s rivalry between Ford and Ferrari by trying to make a car that was Faster and Cheaper than the La Ferrari. THAT would've made Ferrari butthurt. not beating some private-tier team in a lower class in a racing series they no longer care about anymore. That was such a golden opportunity.

imagine being this retarded

Imagine not having an argument.

when is this car going to be released holy shit

it's been around and revealed since fucking 2015

>you now realize that Porsche probably made 3 faster cars than the GayT in the time it took Ford to make it and have it be moderately successful in baby-class LM

it has been released although honestly i can see why it doesn't feel like it.
>been out this long
>STILL no 3rd party test
it might as well not have been released outside of country club collectors at this point.

imagine being a degenerate pigskin

>Le mans is trash now and even its former biggest contenders don't want to race because the rules are becoming increasingly retarded with the forcing of hybrid systems that clearly aren't ready for this type of shit

Unless they're made by germans. Le Mans has become so specialized that only germans have the brainpower to compete anymore.

Face it: the days where you could shove MUH BIG BLOCK 8 CYLINDERS OF VEHICULAR SECOND AMENDMENT FREEDOM!! MURRRRRRICCAAAAAAAA!!!!! into a shitty chassis and win against equally shitty spaghetti cars are over!

There is no recreating the Ford v Ferrari rivalry because neither Ford nor Ferrari are even serious competitors to Porsche anymore. Ferrari hasn't been known for anything when it comes to LM other than buy-in richfags crashing into prototype cars.

>Unless they're made by germans
The Germans dropped out...
>Le Mans has become so specialized that only germans have the brainpower to compete anymore.
Porsche cars broke down in 2017 as well and if there were other conventional prototypes racing in the P1 class they would've lost outright but the P2 cars weren't fast enough to still the win away.
>Face it: the days where you could shove MUH BIG BLOCK 8 CYLINDERS OF VEHICULAR SECOND AMENDMENT FREEDOM!! MURRRRRRICCAAAAAAAA!!!!! into a shitty chassis and win against equally shitty spaghetti cars are over!
No one is talking about that.
>There is no recreating the Ford v Ferrari
There is, its called Ford GT vs La Ferrari which is what i was talking about. please read the whole comment before replying.

>The Germans dropped out...

Yeah. Because they won so much and so hard there literally is no more fight to be had

>Porsche cars broke down in 2017 as well and if there were other conventional prototypes racing in the P1 class they would've lost outright but the P2 cars weren't fast enough to still the win away.

All I can see is: "if there were" and "they would've". Porsche still won. Doesn't matter how or by what margin. A win is a win.

>No one is talking about that.

I was simplifying a point about americans thinking you can treat LM like fucking NASCAR

>There is

There isn't in LM. Not even in the babby class. Ford and Ferrari are irrelevant. Ford a bit more than Ferrari but not by much.

Oh and on your last point: if you're talking about road cars you are beyond delusional. There has only ever been a rivalry between Ford and Ferrari when it came to Le Mans. Ford is as far removed from Ferrari when it comes to road cars as a tractor is from the space shuttle.

>Yeah. Because they won so much and so hard
By barely making it by the skin of their teeth in the last race..? if not for the rules Le mans would have much more competitors.
>A win is a win.
So you're dense and the point flew over your head, got it.
>was not discounting the win
>was making a point against only X can win Y when the rules don't allow for anyone to win in any other way

>I was simplifying a point about americans thinking you can treat LM like fucking NASCAR
They never did. are you just shitposting at this point?
>There isn't in LM
I don't give a shit about Le mans. i wasn't talking about beating Ferrari in that what-so-ever.
>Oh and on your last point: if you're talking about road cars you are beyond delusional
If you don't think Ferrari wouldn't be ass-sore at Ford utterly destroying their Halo car and actively trying to avoid a comparison between any of the hypercar rivals you are delusional. beating their Halo car would most definitely hurt their pride.
>Ford is as far removed from Ferrari when it comes to road cars as a tractor is from the space shuttle.
The GT isn't. its why every countryclub geezer who buys Ferraris also buys Ford GTs. this isn't a Corvette.

>complains about purpose built engine that was never intended to spark a rivalry no one cares about against a company that doesnt even see Ford as a competitor because they are such wildly different companies that simply don't cut into each others profits
>tfw neither feel the need to stake their reputation on a race like they did decades ago
>complains when its built to withstand all the retardation of the shitty class they entered it in
>doesnt complain that it didnt even win
Thanks for proving me right

Aston Martin won
You look incredibly retarded typing all that ignorant shit out

>>complains about purpose built engine
When did i do that? i'm advocating (for) such engines. Ecoboost isn't that.

>that was never intended to spark a rivalry no one cares
In one of Ford's advertisements/promos they show Ferrari's prancing horse getting "shaken" or scared of the GT in reference to the rivalry between them in the 60s. they were also going on and on about how they wanted to score a class win for the anniversary of the GT40. this whole car was wrapped in marketing regarding that rivalry. Don't get me wrong though i don't give a shit about it either my point was that if they wanted to market the car as an anniversary special and "beating Ferrari" it would've been a better tribute to try and beat Ferrari at something they would've cared about i.e their Halo car.

>they are such wildly different companies that simply don't cut into each others profits
I wasn't talking about stealing sales or going against them as a cooperation i was talking about taking a dump on their best car. basically competing with their engineers to see who could make the best super car. Why do people take things stone-faced literally?

>complains when its built to withstand all the retardation of the shitty class they entered it in
No, i'm complaining that they built the car around such a shitty class instead of ignoring it entirely to build the best road car they can. the La-Ferrari uses some kind of intake system that was banned in F1. Ferrari clearly wasn't thinking of conforming to any motorsport rules when they built the La-ferrari they just wanted to build the best Halo car they could.

>doesnt complain that it didnt even win
Its just GTLM. it doesn't really even matter. i would never advocate for dumbing down a car for any motorsport even if it would improve that car's chance of winning exponentially.

>Thanks for proving me right
I barely understood what you were getting at t b h famguy

The official statement is that they had to meet specific engine dimensions and weight requirements, the actual reason is they just wanted to advertise the ecoboost. The meme reason is to enrage asshurt GM fangirls that their precious corvette with its mighty V8 has been constantly shat on by a turbocharged V6 from a truck.

Am I the only one that really likes the looks of this car?

they sold every car they produced before they even finished production. they made a fuck ton of money.

no, moron.

It ain't so bad

It could've been the new NSX, after all

it is just ford.

sperg more GM cuck

>hyped constantly for over a year
>everyone stopped caring the day after press reviews
>hasn't made any headlines since last years
>pointless
You have misidentified the car you are talking about

The NSX was pretty disappointing, especially since its pretty much the only car that Honda makes that I like.

No,
NSX>GT
>it could've been a mass production flagship actually meant to go against other manufacturer's flagship but instead we get this useless collector halo car that Ford is too scared to let anyone but themselves test
Nah, the NSX is better by default.

this deluded.
GT objectively shits on the NSX in every single way.

Specifically in the price category. Almost a completely different segment

>NSX
>not Honda's halo car

>GT objectively shits on
lmfao, Ford is too chicken shit to let it be tested against anything. it doesn't shit on nothing. especially with the Manufacturer being unconfident in their own product.
Its not a limited collector item. its a flagship that's going to stay for a decade to come with Honda planning on making EV versions.

LMFAO at you hondafag. The GT won the production class at LeMans, first year out. Can the same be said about the NSX? NO. Where was the NSX ? NO WHERE.

Honda is too fucking chickenshit and unconfident to race the NSX against big boys. The NSX is strictly little league.

You act like the NSX is going to pumped out like Fits and they're going to be everywhere. Very few people are going to buy a $ 200,000 Honda. It's a fucking halo car, just like the GT.

Just because they will make more NSX than GTs that makes the NSX better? Wow that's some incredible mental gymnastics there.

>The GT won the production class at LeMans
pic related. also the Corvette is a infinitely more successful GT car at le mans and the C6R holds the second highest distance record behind the Mclaren F1 for any GT car so i guess by your definition the production Corvette is superior to the GT.

>Honda is too fucking chickenshit and unconfident to race the NSX against big boys.
What do race cars have to do with production cars again? and where was Ford at pikes peak where there are no rules and anything goes? nowhere because they would've gotten BTFO outside of the now-cucked GT class.

>You act like the NSX is going to pumped out like Fits and they're going to be everywhere
More of them are going to exist than the limited to 1000 GT so yes. and they aren't scheduled to stop production when a certain number are produced like the GT.

>Very few people are going to buy a $ 200,000 Honda.
Yea, that's why they are trying to increase supply in some areas to keep up with demand meanwhile the biggest appeal of the Ford GT is that its low limited supply.

>It's a fucking halo car,
Yes.
just like the GT.
No, because its not limited and will continued to be worked on as time goes on because it will stay in production. the GT is stunted to its current form and won't get any better. This is what defines the difference between "Flagship" and simple "Halo car".

>Just because they will make more NSX than GTs that makes the NSX better?
No, they are better because they actually show confidence in their product. Ford doesn't. it doesn't matter how much you boast yourself up as a boxer or how big and tough you think you are. if you don't show up to the boxing ring you lose and are the inferior man. the NSX showed up to the production boxing ring. the Ford GT didn't.

>so i guess by your definition the production Corvette is superior to the GT.

What the actual fuck? Now your talking about the Corvette? Oh I guess because the NSX couldn't compete, you have to bring in an entirely different car to talk about. It took the Corvette more than a decade to actually get a class win at LeMans. The GT did it the with a new car the first year it was back since the Sixties. That shows confidence.

>What do race cars have to do with production cars again?
What class did the Ford GT win? LM GTE where the cars are relatively close to road cars in terms of parts and dimensions as mandated by the rules.

>where was Ford at pikes peak where there are no rules and anything goes?
WTF would an unlimited car that prove about the GT? Nothing LOL, the NSX was at Pikes peak where it might have chance of winning with "no rules and anything goes"? Anyone can with with no rules and enough money. Wow, what a lack of confidence.

>No, they are better because they actually show confidence in their product. Ford doesn't. it doesn't matter how much you boast yourself up as a boxer or how big and tough you think you are. if you don't show up to the boxing ring you lose and are the inferior man. the NSX showed up to the production boxing ring. the Ford GT didn't.

What the fuck does boxing have to do with cars? Oh LOL mental gymnastics again. Cars race on tracks.

The new Ford GT showed up at LeMans and won the production class it's first year out with a new car with a new chassis. That's confidence. That's WINNING.

Honda didn't. That's chicken shit. That's no confidence. That's a LOSER.

I love this new metric for judging cars, "product confidence". Did you come up with that one all by yourself?

>What the actual fuck? Now your talking about the Corvette?
No, i was giving you an example of why your point was a bad one.
>Corvette more than a decade to actually get a class win at LeMans
By racing teams who weren't factory backed efforts? Pratt and Miller C5R was successful after a year or two.
>The GT did it the with a new car the first year it was back since the Sixties.
in a much more heavily regulated environment. in a class way below the one they raced in long ago.
>LM GTE where the cars are relatively close to road cars
But they aren't road cars and the car you actually buying i.e production version isn't beating anything.
>WTF would an unlimited car that prove about the GT
That they can compete in unheavily regulated environments. you realize the GT class is heavily regulated compared to what it used to be and the Ford GT is slower than a C5R?

>Anyone can with with no rules and enough money
A lot of money wasn't spent on the 4-motor EV Concept car Honda made because it was already incorporated into the NSX's design. it's a part of making a platform that actually goes somewhere beyond the initial release unlike the GT.

>What the fuck does boxing have to do with cars? Oh LOL mental gymnastics again.
Clearly i'm being trolled and you understood the analogy lol.

>The new Ford GT showed up at LeMans and won the production class it's first year out with a new car with a new chassis.
Too bad they don't show that confidence in the car costumers are actually buying or it would actually mean something.

>I love this new metric for judging cars, "product confidence". Did you come up with that one all by yourself?
Pretty much existed since the dawn of Capitalism and Commercialism and showing you can make a better product than the other guy. also what's the point of a product if its just a collector's piece and its performance against anything only exist in theory.

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>>I love this new metric for judging cars, "product confidence". Did you come up with that one all by yourself?
>Pretty much existed since the dawn of Capitalism and Commercialism and showing you can make a better product than the other guy.

The GT showed it IS a better product. It won LeMans in a production based class like Ford set out to do. LM GTE cars are production based chassis with production engines. Those are the rules.

The NSX did not win anything but pikes peak in an unlimited class with no rules where they could do anything they fucking wanted like a custom built tube frame with 4 electric motors . They might as well have just raced a NSX bodied funny car in NHRA. WOW, such high confidence in their production NSX.

>also what's the point of a product if its just a collector's piece and its performance against anything only exist in theory.
Only it doesn't exist in theory it's in the history books : "2016 LM GTE class winner". And the GT is still racing and continues winning races.

No one buys a six figure super car based on a manufacturer's "confidence in the product". This is just some bullshit you made up in your deluded mind to make the NSX "better".

Toyota builds about 300k Camrys a year. They sure have more "confidence" in their product than Honda does in the NSX because Honda isn't going to build 300K of them. Therefore it's a "better" car than the NSX or GT or any supercar. That's what youre saying.

>The GT showed it IS a better product.
It didn't. the product their selling still hasn't proven itself against anything.

>It won LeMans in a production based class like Ford set out to do. LM GTE cars are production based chassis with production engines. Those are the rules.
You aren't getting the GTLM GT. you are getting the production version. did the C6 prove it was a better car than the GTR regardless of what the production version did based on the not-for-sale racing version?

>The NSX did not win anything but pikes peak in an unlimited class
They also won the production class (which they still hold the record for) and the production class at pikes uses less modifications than the GTLM cars. its basically just a production NSX with a stripped out interior &R tires (you can still see the stock interior panels). there is no racing parts unlike the GT so even by that metric the GT is still behind.

>No one buys a six figure super car based on a manufacturer's "confidence in the product"
The Confidence in the product shows that not even Ford themselves thinks its better than any of its rivals so why should i?

>Only it doesn't exist in theory it's in the history books
I'm still not seeing production numbers from the GT so whether its better than any of its rivals still remains a theory and will likely stay so.

>Toyota builds about 300k Camrys a year.
Its not about sales its about backing out of comparisons and test for fear of losing because you know its inferior.

>They sure have more "confidence" in their product than Honda does in the NSX because Honda isn't going to build 300K of them. Therefore it's a "better" car than the NSX or GT or any supercar. That's what youre saying.
If Toyota for whatever reason didn't want people reviewing or testing their car's against the competition to put their claims to the test it would show they can't put their money where their marketing mouth is and their competitors are better that's basically what i'm saying.