The Crawl tournament is almost over! Did you all play your best?
Liam Green
only 5 wins, 4tharra overtook me with just 2 wins. Shameful display tbqh
Kayden Walker
I didn't play roguelikes at all during tournament time rlg is even more /dcssg/ than it normally is
Jonathan Baker
~2h for this tournament to end and i cleared lair with this combo for the first time.. I think i wont make it but ill try to win this regardless
Julian Ross
I always play my best during the tournaments. It's probably because the lag makes me stop and think.
I'm worried Dicks hasn't seen the win It's been a day already If he doesn't update the MuMofesto then it's never going to be official
Isaac Sanchez
from now on it's going to be junethack all the way user. I just feel it.
Leo Nelson
The worst part is yet to come, in the lair branches, if statue form doesn't generate.
At that point you'll have to do spider and pray that roxanne generates since you won't be able to 1v1 most swamp popcorn enemies.
Robert Reed
I gotten shoals and spider so
Parker Hall
>shoals
i guess you'll be fine then
David Nelson
What roguelikes have the best story?
Has a roguelike ever touched your heart, made you cry, really made you think
Xavier Johnson
Not really.
Aaron Powell
Yeah, thank fuck ice form stops the damage from waterstrike bullshit so atleast something ice form is so fucking stupid holy fuck
Christian Martinez
does crying in arelgee about how paralysis should be removed count
Christopher Baker
Autistic screeching doesn't into the recognized spectrum of human emotional responses.
Wyatt Jones
jiyva sounded a lot more fun in theory getting a revolving door of +2 AC mutations isn't very interesting oh well at least i never have to worship her again
Jeremiah Hill
Good job, Makhbats.
We hustled our way into 6th place.
Noah Perry
YERMAK ON SUICIDE WATCH
Jordan Adams
...
Ethan Richardson
what the heck kind of pokemon is that
back in my day we had zubat and its evolution who I completely forgot the name of who is this little shit
Michael Perez
>ended up with a higher winrate in the end
dang
He was also trying to streak to eventually surpass manman, but he splatted his GhGl due to a user/game error.
Ryan Richardson
>but he splatted his GhGl due to a user/game error. So you're saying he faulted.
James Peterson
zubat -> zugong
Ayden Wilson
So what's the current FOTM?
Nicholas Gomez
>tfw both these manuals Guccio
Oliver Mitchell
makhbat
Jason Brown
now make it spam minor destruction
Nicholas Flores
Technically, yeah. If he took his time, he never would've faulted in that situation, but he was probably relying on the game not ignoring something he put in his rcfile.
Jaxson Torres
If he wins his current game within this hour, he may stand a chance at becoming #1.
Brandon Price
What exactly happened?
Jonathan Flores
from ##crawl-dev >Yermak | A bug ended the streak that was my last hope to win this tourney. >Yermak | I use item_slot ^= scroll of blinking:B. But if an item from a shop is added to unknown stack from backpack, item_slot won't work. This time on 'B' was another scroll ):
The full context was that he was in Depths:5 and a moth of wrath berserked a bunch of monsters, including some ettins. He pulled one up to Depths:4, but took a huge hit. He immediately went to read a blink scroll, which would simply be "rB" for him, except as he stated, something else (a scroll of fear) was on the B slot. So, he accidentally read that fear scroll -- which (I think) is pointless against a berserked enemy -- and that caused him to splat.
Joshua Martin
how exactly would that happen he's already won a DDFi^Makhleb exactly, the same combo he's doing now he has no streak he can't get any meme banner that's worth points based on what he's done in the game
Leo Gomez
>He immediately went to read a blink scroll, which would simply be "rB" for him Well that's fucking dumb. In a life and death situation in a turn-based game you always take a second glance at the situation and/or your inventory before doing it.
Dude faulted hard.
Mason White
Can't be scared when you're seeing red, yeah.
Jacob Rogers
No, he's actually right.
If he gets it within an hour, he'll likely get the "win with the last start time" bonus, which would be 100 points. That would also be faster than his current 1:11:12 fast win, which would mean his "low realtime win" would jump from 292 to 347 at the minimum.
Since he's 140 points behind, the combination of the two bonuses would put him over.
Dominic Rivera
Thats what happens when you trust a computer/a game to do something for you and doing stuff like this Sure, it might make your life easier sometimes but then you get shit like this
Joshua Wilson
Oh right, I didn't notice the death directly after that win so I thought this current DD was a streak game.
Guess ManMan is #1, without a doubt, then.
Isaiah Morris
I don't inscribe because I'm afraid of something like this happening. If he inscribed it as rB, wouldn't blink be on rB permanently no matter what he picked up? Why would fear be in that "slot"?
No wait, I'm retarded is right, the 'win at last time' bonus could give him #1
Nicholas Gutierrez
I mean, you have to know the context that he was trying to get a long streak so that he'd get an extra one or two hundred points. His previous 3 wins were all under 3 hours, and his previous 4 were all on the same day.
His instincts were right, but it was fatigue+goingfast that fucked him.
Owen Lewis
he should've inscribed (manually or otherwise) !r to all of his important scrolls full fucking retard
Yea you're right, I didn't know about last game bonus or whatever
Levi Stewart
what's a good amount of STR for a non limp wristed Elf? currently at 6
Hunter Williams
10+ or so, so you can wear QDA or something.
Nathan Morales
qda...quicksilver? right? any other type of good mage armor to invest str for?
Grayson Hernandez
The problem wasn't with inscriptions -- if he inscribed blink to @r2 or something, he would've been fine. The problem was with item slots, which can be a fickle mistress.
Gavin Myers
You can wear anything really, but I typically stop at chain mail/FDA. For deep elf you'll probably wear quicksilver at the absolute heaviest or maybe troll leather.
Sebastian Jenkins
God, deja-vu.
Nathan Taylor
Going fast is a horrible habit. Roguelikes are for taking it easy.
Christopher Gutierrez
yermak be like GAS GAS GAS GOTTA STEP ON THE GAS
after seeing that he has 20 minutes to do depths and zot
Parker Barnes
rip yermak
Oliver King
FUCK
Carter Bell
This tournament is sponsored by corrosion.
Jack Rivera
rip
Austin Bennett
Well, that was stupid. He really fucked himself with the positioning there I think. Due to wanting to go fast.
Ryan Adams
He's dead
Leo Fisher
He was pretty well positioned until the troll earth mage dug out all the walls
Ian Mitchell
He had no choice tbqh, he literally had 15 minutes for the remaining depths floors, Zot and the orb run.
Isaac Bell
...
Lucas Rogers
OTabbing forward into the unknown while marked seemed like a bad move. And then staying relatively in the open to use the cleave mechanic and not just falling back.
Dominic Butler
Nice work, Tummy Slashers. We did it. We did our best.
Connor Turner
Holy shit, you got 30th place while dragging a dead weight like veronica. Great job you guys.
Hunter Bennett
cant you just get unlimited people in your team?
Thomas Roberts
>dcss tournament is almost finished >so burnt out I didn't play
Where did it all go so wrong?
Easton Roberts
Yes user. I am, in fact, bullying them.
Luis Barnes
you keep using that word.
Charles Collins
The fellowship came in #8, we spent the last week of the tourny constantly splatting so we could never catch up to the makhbats
Chase Long
>Tittycrusher
Henry Williams
>you will never be in a team as good as kings or big black macabre finger necklace
Kevin Lewis
Can you gofast with a Troll, at least for 3 runes, without statue form?
Julian Perry
Troll of Chei would be reasonably fast, along the lines of VS of Chei. So yeah, I suppose you could. It's just that you'll be hurting for early-game AC, and gofast means you're going to splat quite a bit because of it.
Joshua Hughes
Where do all these teams come from? Obviously there are a couple from here, from Bay12, from SA, Reddit, the tavern. But there's a lot of teams. Is there a secret DCSS subculture that I don't know about?
Jordan Allen
Damn people with friends.
You missed the probably biggest subculture of DCSS players. DCSS.
Easton Cooper
Just fucking click on it???
Easton Diaz
A lot of them are just IRL friends of the players, if you can believe it.
I was reading crawl-dev, and one of the server admins has a team with his brothers/brothers-in-law.
And then there are the Korean teams, who most likely just join together in their Public Chat webtiles account.
And, most importantly, there's IRC and Webtiles chat itself, which I assume most players use to communicate with each other. (I'd been mini-stalking Vaj to see how on earth he got on the same team as 4thArra, and my only two assumptions are that it was via IRC or just hounding 4thArra in his chat)
Justin Thomas
>I'd been mini-stalking Vaj to see how on earth he got on the same team as 4thArra, and my only two assumptions are that it was via IRC or just hounding 4thArra in his chat Never used the IRC in my life famalam.
A friend on the same server, murphy, formed a team and wanted to recreate the 0.19 tourny team but alot of the the members were MIA so he asked me and 4tharra to join. Sadly, I'm a shitter and 4tharra didn't have much time to play so we came #8.
Angel Sanders
>purple very ugly thing in D:8, along with Death Yaks guarding the Lair entrance there
epic, simply epic
Matthew Young
stop playing crawl past .17
Nolan Anderson
Well, i guess splatters did well considering all the stuff together and i guess its nice having all the /rlg/ teams, atleast the ones that were in the op, in top 50 so im happy with that as well Hope all of you had a nice tournament!
Ryan Jones
>suddenly people are streaming roguelikes what happened?
Christian Miller
playing a challenge race and being forced to die by bad entrance vaults is one of the finest pleasures in DCSS, you ingrate
the retarded death yak entrance has been a thing since like .12 or something
Luke Reyes
Death yaks are manageable. Very ugly things are NOT.
Brody Morris
Whats your favourite 7 day roguelike
Mines traumaRL
Carter King
>less than 100 viewers across all rogue"likes" combined that's not even 1% of total twitch viewership man literally nothing happened except for a couple nerds watching a couple nerds play videogames
Cameron Wilson
probably smart kobold
Christian Long
aliensrl
Sebastian Gonzalez
For my Merfolk Gladiator, early on: Keep my basic +1 trident or trade up to a halberd?
Camden Price
Halberd, you'll want a glaive asap since that +4 aptitude means you'll get pole arms up incredibly fast.
Kevin Moore
Can someone tell me why did i have iron and deep troll in orc? What is this shit
Brody Walker
So basically trade up to the biggest pole I can at the earliest opportunity?
Levi Stewart
Be lucky you didn't get the one with like 5 ettins, a stone giant and a billion cyclops'.
For some reason, there's always ridiculously OOD shit in orc:2 now if you don't get the usual vault with the high-level orcs.
Wyatt Morgan
Because wildly OOD monsters make for interesting tactical situations
Henry Peterson
I had ettins and cyclopses as well along with 1 iron and 1 deep troll
Jace Garcia
Yeah, basically. You'll probably want spells as well, since you'll fighting in light armour for most of the game as merfolk.(Typically ring/scale because of the -3 armour aptitude) so they're basically free since you won't have much armour encumbrance.
Zachary Lewis
But desu it wasnt a big deal, ice form just melt through them but i never seen iron and deep troll in orc, ever
Ian Howard
You move down the stairs The Ettin hits you. The ettin hits you. -50/50 you die.
Jacob Ward
SmithRL
You run a shop for selling weapons and armor to adventurers. None of them can really afford good weapons until they already have good weapons, so the way to win is to sell stuff below cost, thus running a Ponzi scheme where you are the victim, but it ends up working out OK because the adventurers will sell old stuff back to you for $1.
Levi Perez
Ball Lightning (fail rate 5%) or Freezing Cloud (fail rate 28%) for a TeAE?
This is with Vehumet's success rate aid, too. Just now going into Lair.
James Williams
Lightning could be nice but it would generate a lot of noise and attract all the other shit Freezing cloud on the other hand is really nice since almost all the monsters in lair are slow metabolism so cold attacks/spells may slow them, which is nice and lets you escape some shitty hydra or something so i would probably take freezing cloud and try to get it to lower % fail rate, obviously
Justin Jackson
Freezing cloud is my #1 crutch shitter spell, just put a few points in ice (5-10ish) to get the fail rate down in the teens