Hey Veeky Forums
So, I'm pretty damn good at building websites. And I want to do it freelance for some income, but here's the problem:
I can't sell.
I mean I can't sell for fucking shit.
If you were choking, I couldn't sell you the heimlich maneuver.
So what do? Either how do I get gud at sales, how do I find somebody who'd be willing to sell for me and get a sizeable commission, or how do I give up on dreams and go back to being a meme-posting NEET?
How did you learn to build them?
In addition possibly contact a recruiter.
uDemy/Codecademy
and then I met a guy at a local machine shop who took me in as an intern to help him build some projects. but he's GARBAGE at maintaining deadlines and project scope and doesn't target clients that can actually pay a decent price for web development work.
You can find someone that can sell and split the profits with them.
Where & how?
shameless bump
Can you sell? Do YOU want sum profits?
>i learned programming by doing shitty courses
cmon bruh, we all know this isn't how it works
As for your problem, what do you mean you can't sell? I thought you want to work for someone, not sell pre-made websites yourself. If so, register everywhere and bid(not the lowest price), and try to get some contacts. As for pre-selling things, I don't know, you have to target them somehow.
I was about to make a freelancing thread myself, what are some other skills you can freelance with? Today i read graphic design is oversaturated and you should be happy if you get any work. Is there anything that has a lower barrier of entry than few years?
you and a billion pajeets
pajeet's are annoying to work with, and their code is a mess.
also the courses I did were not shitty, you nignog.
The websites I make are some pre-made bullshit. This isn't some template-with-a-logo-swap fly by night crap. I'm talking about getting in and building, from the ground up, a website that helps businesses drive conversions and win bids for contracts.
how much coding is involved in making a website? Like if you go to microsoft's website....all the little drop downs and the picture transitions that change fadein-fadeout.....does all that have to be done manually, or is that just template shit from flash or what not?
It depends on whether the website is put together using PHP or just straight up HTML/CSS.
PHP adds a bit more complexity and involvement.
But functions like the one you describe would be creating the lists of items and adding java and CSS to make the changes happen (the menu drops down when clicked, the items change color when hovered over with the mouse, etc...)
A standard website for an industrial service business is about 5 or so pages, would take about 1-2 weeks to code fully & debug. and depending on other variables could be sold for anywhere between $3,000 - $15,000
"This isn't some template-with-a-logo-swap fly by night crap. I'm talking about getting in and building, from the ground up, a website that helps businesses drive conversions and win bids for contracts."
i have heard worse sales pitches than this.
how long until you were confident enough to sell your services?
Didn't realize you were looking for a pitch, user.
Realistically to pitch I'd probably do a little pre-research on the company I'm targetting. Keyword research on their industry to figure how many more people we could get to see their business via website, what the actual benefits to the business will be.
I really don't want to be selling websites just to sell websites. I do genuinely want to help businesses grow and get more projects/clients/revenue...
about 3 months of spending most of my time learning and building mock websites. Maybe 5 months until I was able to do it well AND fairly quickly and get good at diagnosing and fixing problems.
You stupid faggot, you just made a good pitch without knowing it. Go out there and start selling bitch, you're more than capable. Godspeed
Well, the other thing that's going to make me sound like a huge faggot is that I get super anxious before doing cold calling.
I'm okay sending emails, but who the fuck closes a deal over an email?
And when I get nervous I can't speak confidently and getno's like "call back in the fall" and "it's just not in the budget right now" and "we're not interested at this time, but maybe in the future", etc...
Show your portfolio then.
You could go onto craigslist and look up all the shitty job offers and check those places to see if they have websites.....offer to work on their site for a low price just to build experience with the social aspect of it.
I am fully prepared to do some work for free in my business before people are confident in my work.
Don't you find that you are more confident in talking to people now that you work for yourself? I am.....makes me feel more important than I really am.
>trusting Veeky Forums
not today, agent Cooper
Plus, I've only gotten 1 client so far and I'm still working on her project.
So I don't really have much of a portfolio to show.
Anybody need a website for their business built for free?
In my experience:
1. Always push the "I am not a Pajeet"-advantage.
2. If you have your rent and food sorted, sell yourself at the price of a Pajeet to get the rating up. You can increase it later.
3. Recurring customers is the key, cause you can A. avoid the fees. B. Get the money without spending time selling yourself. Work hard for a fair price and never bullshit, and those recurring customers will come.