Hey Veeky Forums
I began creating a website targeted at NEETs and I think I'm about ready to start driving traffic to it. Only problem is my ad budget is like $2/day. I think that will get me like 8-10 visits a day if I'm lucky.
What is a good way to drive real traffic to my site with a minimal budget.
And I forgot one thing. Does SEO actually work? Or is it just a meme?
It seems like a chicken and the egg type thing. Lots of traffic gives you a better search engine rank but you need a good search engine rank to get lots of traffic.
Anything porn related. Can't go wrong.
Man sometimes I wonder why I even come to this board
SEO used to be a legitimate thing but nowadays it just pay-to-win nonsense that you won't get in on unless you're some huge multinational corporation.
Yeah it definitely seems that way. Like to boost your SEO naturally you need retarded amounts of keywords, you need your pages getting linked to from other high ranking sites. The amount of work required is insane. The easy route is to pay google to shill your site for you but as I said before, I don't have the budget for that.
SEO works if you actually know what keywords/groups you're targeting and that those keywords both receive enough traffic to be worthwhile and are easy enough to rank for.
SEO now is more about getting legitimate backlinks by spreading your content around (think infographics, articles etc. posted to Reddit or sent to blogs and news sources in your niche).
Depending on your niche, Reddit can be a very good way to drive traffic and get backlinks (Reddit links are dofollow once you hit +3 karma on the post, generally).
Thanks for a solid answer. Any advice on how to get your links on reddit without getting banned? It seems like the mods get off on banning links which I guess is understandable but also inconvenient.
It stands for Seven Eager Orientals, and these people are absolutely essential for any startup.
I have a website that gets around 1000 organic (search engine) visits a day. This is from fewer than 50 blog articles.
I haven't done any link building. I just focused on making quality articles ithat match long tail key phrases that people search.
The site sells hair loss products if anyone wants to buy it from me lol. It turns over around $700US a month but it is very poorly optimised.
Thats pretty good man congrats! And these small successes are inspiring. So you didn't do any paid ads?
No, I actually tried to set up some paid ads for the first time the other day but they got disallowed for some reason.
I also have this other site that gets around 500 organic views a day - that's from just 20 blogs. I monetise this one with Google AdSense (massively inefficient but there's no obvious product related to this niche) and get around $2 a day lol. Pic related but I changed the Google account recently so the stats only go back a few days.
I'm gonna try and start another site but this time base it around a high margin product (i.e. $500 per item) because it's pretty bad that I'm turning over just $700 (of which around $450 is profit) from all this targeted traffic.
What is your site for NEETS?
I'd need to know the niche you're working on to offer solid advice. For a general rule think of the things people in your niche are interested in (lists and infographics work well) and work from there.
One of the niches I've worked in was actually helping businesses promote their stuff on Reddit so I posted links to the site in /r/Conspiracy and /r/InternetPR about how "Companies are manipulating Reddit to spread their messages" and those posts did very well.
SEO isn't a meme, but buying links, and even just obsessing over links is dead. Google has become very good at detecting basically any manipulative "link building" tactics and it is much more effective to create and share legitimate content people are interested in and will actually engage with.
I basically just discuss ways to make money that aren't a 9-to-5 job. Currently my focus is on credit card churning and taking advantage of referral programs.
So I basically made about $13,000 from credit card churning in the last 6 months of 2016. And now I'm making about $2,500/month from referral link programs. I just want keep expanding upon things like that. These are very high margin activities that anyone with just a bit of discipline can do.
What are referral link programs?
Please link me to your site as I think I'd genuinely be interested in this stuff
what is the domain name? I may be interested in buying. I’d want to see more numbers first
what is the domain/URL?
Isn't it generally considered a bad idea to link to our sites on this board? I don't want to be ip banned
oh sorry, could you do this kind of thing?
amazon dot com
neetbucks.%%%
the %%%=com
Go easy on me I'm still building it out.
Nice man, keep up the good work.
Off the top of my head:
1) Make a facebook page for this site. Post your articles if you want, or just let it sit. It helps with SEO, just make sure you add a link to your site.
2) Shill the site on /biz and /r/personalfinance and shit like that.
3) Add facebook pixel to your site
4) then advertise on facebook. I get clicks to my site for $.08/click. And I get page likes for $.05
Thanks man I appreciate the feedback. I definitely do need to branch out into social media.
In regards to the ads, are you saying that facebook ads are cheaper than google ads? $0.08 per click is like unheard of on google.
I run a small web design agency. We focus exclusively on e-commerce sites (shopify sites mostly).
A big part of my job is driving traffic to sites. We only use Facebook for ads. Google ads are a mess IMHO (and more expensive).
Facebook Pixel is incredible. You install it on the site, and it will track the people who visit your website. Then you can target ads directly towards those previous website visitors.
People you already know are interested in your site, because they visited before.
And $.08 per click is pretty low obviously.
Other clients of mine have gotten prices around $.35/click. It all depends on how good your targeting is.
If you’re targeting all males 18-35 in the U.S., you’re going to pay like $4 per click.
But if you target previous website visitors AND people who like Veeky Forums/neet related facebook pages, you will get a much lower price for CPC
I will definitely be looking into that. Thanks for all the info man!
Im the biggest hairloss nerd, i was thinking about starting a site competition is insane.
how do I get started? any wordpress states or something? im low IQ
Also do you use long tail pro or something to research particular keywords?
You use amazon ref links or something to sell? how do you sell? i doubt 700 is from adsense only
>do you use long tail pro
No, I've never heard of it. I just come up with the ideas myself.
> competition is insane
It's not really - at least not for some of the more niche topics. Since you're a hair loss nerd you probably know what some of these things are:
- SM04554
- PGD2
- Derma roller hair loss
Etc.
I rank on the first page of Google for all of these phrases (probably give you an idea what my site is).
>i doubt 700 is from adsense only
The main hair loss site doesn't have ads, it sells products (not affiliate, I use woocommerce). But I have another site that I monetise through ads.
There's 2 big pizza companies in my country: Pizza hut and Dominos.
Whenever someone googles pizza hut the first result would be an ad for dominos discount voucher.
Thanks, and nice quads
Yes im familiar with all of those. What is your hairloss regimen?
Im going to keep thinking about a cool name. Are easy to rank names better than a cool brand name? for example, Trivago was an amazing success and it isn't like "hotelpricecomparator" or something. Its just a cool name. Know what I mean?
Also what do you recommend, namecheap, godaddy etc? and how do I guarantee that the site is safe and I cant get doxxed?
>Are easy to rank names better than a cool brand name
I think domain name is a ranking factor (it definitely used to be) but it's so minor in comparison to stuff like content, inbound links, etc. I'd say go with whatever name you prefer
>Also what do you recommend, namecheap, godaddy etc?
I used GoDaddy but it's by no means the best, it was just the first. Wordpress is really easy to build the site with.
>and how do I guarantee that the site is safe and I cant get doxxed?
Get WHOIS protection, that's as far as I've gone
> What is your hairloss regimen
I got a hair transplant. One time fix, permanent, actually works. There are plenty of other things that do work but to me they're just more hassle than it's worth. I only think about hair loss now in terms of the site, etc.
Before I got a HT I did spend a lot of time reading up on various treatments, theories, etc. I don't care much about hair loss in my own case anymore but I thought I might as well use this (quite specific, quite niche) knowledge
>I used GoDaddy but it's by no means the best, it was just the first. Wordpress is really easy to build the site with.
I meant where to buy the site , the domain.
To build it, you used wordpress.. I have no idea how to code. Any templates I can use? got any youtube tutorial how to get this part done?
Im planing on profiting from adsense since i already got account for a youtube channel (unrelated niche, small monthly gains) and then, add in links.
What I don't know is what is the best way to add links. Amazon FBA thing, referrals, woocommerce.. or create my own hairloss brand thing (nightmare mode..)
>I got a hair transplant. One time fix, permanent, actually works. There are plenty of other things that do work but to me they're just more hassle than it's worth. I only think about hair loss now in terms of the site, etc.
Where did you get your HT? And what about the rest of the hair? you should continue the treatment otherwise you risk continuing going bald on the non transplanted areas.
Backlinks are the only seo you should worry about. It's about 80% of ranking factor
CC from WF?
What???
What do you guys use to research a keywords competition?
I made a website aimed at some very competitive keywords, but Google seems to hate me for it. To the extend that even when I search for my domain name I can't be found. Not even after all my competition.
But some pages somehow do rank for some unintended random shit. Keywords with little competition.
Yes, but that misleads people into believing that they can just buy links or spam comment sections and rank well. You have to build links effectively, and long term that means making useful content that people share on their own.